Re: Hardware related test cases.
I've added an entry for vivid; feel free to use any daily build and report results. http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/330/builds The important thing is to test early and often, and file good bug reports. Doing this provides the best chance at having the issue fixed before release. Nicholas On 01/22/2015 07:44 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: Nicolas, I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ? -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Hardware related test cases.
Gabriel, the alphas are released and thus there won't be any more alpha milestones in the tracker for Vivid. Cheers, Pasi On 2015-01-23 02:44, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: Nicolas, I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ? -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Nicholas Skaggs < nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote: Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know about it know, rather than later. Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester Nicholas On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response ! Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make QA on all this devices too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should run this test booting a live image maybe. Thanks, -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B wrote: Hi Gabriel, Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware components like GPU. The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an issue. To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an official Ubuntu repo. Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent similar issues in the future, Damir Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 Subject: Hardware related test cases. From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Hello QA team, Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every distribution upgrade ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video performance specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable after the dist upgrade. I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, Any guidance is welcome :-) -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Pasi Lallinaho (knome)» http://open.knome.fi/ Leader of Shimmer Project » http://shimmerproject.org/ Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website Lead » http://xubuntu.org/ -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Hardware related test cases.
Nicolas, I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ? -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Nicholas Skaggs < nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote: > Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an > excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know > about it know, rather than later. > > Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup > > and > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester > > Nicholas > > > On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response ! >> >> Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market >> and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make QA on all this devices >> too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try >> to >> understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release >> candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every >> day >> and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should >> run this test booting a live image maybe. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Gabriel. >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B wrote: >> >> Hi Gabriel, >>> >>> Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each >>> and >>> every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware >>> components like GPU. >>> >>> The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very >>> open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running >>> even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update >>> to >>> Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop >>> because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination >>> of >>> hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who >>> do >>> "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own >>> and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you >>> tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an >>> issue. >>> >>> To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg >>> and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE >>> they >>> release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an >>> official Ubuntu repo. >>> >>> Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to >>> prevent >>> similar issues in the future, >>> >>> Damir >>> >>> >>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 >>>> Subject: Hardware related test cases. >>>> From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com >>>> To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com >>>> >>>> Hello QA team, >>>> >>>> Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every >>>> distribution upgrade ? >>>> >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 >>>> >>>> Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video >>>> >>> performance >>> >>>> specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop >>>> unusable >>>> after the dist upgrade. >>>> >>>> I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, >>>> >>>> Any guidance is welcome :-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gabriel. >>>> -- >>>> Ubuntu-quality mailing list >>>> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality >>> >>> >> >> > -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Hardware related test cases.
Just remember that installing release candidates aren't guaranteed to be any stabler or better in quality than PPA's used to test software during the development. Always take backups. Cheers, Pasi On 2015-01-22 23:32, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know about it know, rather than later. Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester Nicholas On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response ! Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make QA on all this devices too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should run this test booting a live image maybe. Thanks, -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B wrote: Hi Gabriel, Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware components like GPU. The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an issue. To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an official Ubuntu repo. Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent similar issues in the future, Damir Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 Subject: Hardware related test cases. From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Hello QA team, Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every distribution upgrade ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video performance specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable after the dist upgrade. I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, Any guidance is welcome :-) -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Pasi Lallinaho (knome)» http://open.knome.fi/ Leader of Shimmer Project » http://shimmerproject.org/ Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website Lead » http://xubuntu.org/ -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Hardware related test cases.
Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know about it know, rather than later. Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester Nicholas On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response ! Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make QA on all this devices too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should run this test booting a live image maybe. Thanks, -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B wrote: Hi Gabriel, Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware components like GPU. The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an issue. To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an official Ubuntu repo. Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent similar issues in the future, Damir Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 Subject: Hardware related test cases. From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Hello QA team, Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every distribution upgrade ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video performance specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable after the dist upgrade. I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, Any guidance is welcome :-) -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Hardware related test cases.
Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response ! Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make QA on all this devices too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should run this test booting a live image maybe. Thanks, -- Gabriel. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and > every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware > components like GPU. > > The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very > open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running > even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to > Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop > because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of > hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do > "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own > and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you > tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an > issue. > > To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg > and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they > release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an > official Ubuntu repo. > > Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent > similar issues in the future, > > Damir > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 > > Subject: Hardware related test cases. > > From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com > > To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Hello QA team, > > > > Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every > > distribution upgrade ? > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 > > > > Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video > performance > > specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable > > after the dist upgrade. > > > > I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, > > > > Any guidance is welcome :-) > > > > -- > > Gabriel. > > -- > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
RE: Hardware related test cases.
Hi Gabriel, Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware components like GPU. The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an issue. To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an official Ubuntu repo. Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent similar issues in the future, Damir > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300 > Subject: Hardware related test cases. > From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com > To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Hello QA team, > > Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every > distribution upgrade ? > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 > > Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video performance > specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable > after the dist upgrade. > > I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, > > Any guidance is welcome :-) > > -- > Gabriel. > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Hardware related test cases.
Hello QA team, Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every distribution upgrade ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721 Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video performance specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable after the dist upgrade. I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases, Any guidance is welcome :-) -- Gabriel. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality