Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-23 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
I've added an entry for vivid; feel free to use any daily build and 
report results.


http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/330/builds

The important thing is to test early and often, and file good bug 
reports. Doing this provides the best chance at having the issue fixed 
before release.


Nicholas

On 01/22/2015 07:44 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Nicolas,

I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in 
http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ?


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Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-23 Thread Pasi Lallinaho

Gabriel,

the alphas are released and thus there won't be any more alpha 
milestones in the tracker for Vivid.


Cheers,
Pasi

On 2015-01-23 02:44, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Nicolas,

I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in
http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ?

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:


Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an
excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know
about it know, rather than later.

Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup

and

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester

Nicholas


On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response !

Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market
and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make  QA on all this devices
too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try
to
understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release
candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every
day
and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should
run this test booting a live image maybe.


Thanks,

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B  wrote:

  Hi Gabriel,

Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each
and
every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware
components like GPU.

The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very
open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running
even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update
to
Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop
because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination
of
hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who
do
"hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own
and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you
tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an
issue.

To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg
and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE
they
release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an
official Ubuntu repo.

Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to
prevent
similar issues in the future,

Damir


  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300

Subject: Hardware related test cases.
From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com

Hello QA team,

Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
distribution upgrade ?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721

Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video


performance


specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop
unusable
after the dist upgrade.

I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,

Any guidance is welcome :-)

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Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread gabriel.v...@gmail.com
Nicolas,

I cannot find any any milestone for vivid alpha in
http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/, is this gonna be added in the next days ?

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an
> excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know
> about it know, rather than later.
>
> Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup
>
> and
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response !
>>
>> Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market
>> and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make  QA on all this devices
>> too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try
>> to
>> understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release
>> candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every
>> day
>> and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should
>> run this test booting a live image maybe.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Gabriel.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Gabriel,
>>>
>>> Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each
>>> and
>>> every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware
>>> components like GPU.
>>>
>>> The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very
>>> open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running
>>> even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update
>>> to
>>> Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop
>>> because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination
>>> of
>>> hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who
>>> do
>>> "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own
>>> and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you
>>> tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg
>>> and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE
>>> they
>>> release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an
>>> official Ubuntu repo.
>>>
>>> Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to
>>> prevent
>>> similar issues in the future,
>>>
>>> Damir
>>>
>>>
>>>  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300
>>>> Subject: Hardware related test cases.
>>>> From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
>>>> To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>
>>>> Hello QA team,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
>>>> distribution upgrade ?
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721
>>>>
>>>> Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video
>>>>
>>> performance
>>>
>>>> specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop
>>>> unusable
>>>> after the dist upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,
>>>>
>>>> Any guidance is welcome :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gabriel.
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Just remember that installing release candidates aren't guaranteed to be 
any stabler or better in quality than PPA's used to test software during 
the development.


Always take backups.

Cheers,
Pasi

On 2015-01-22 23:32, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an 
excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers 
know about it know, rather than later.


Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup

and

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester

Nicholas

On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response !

Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the 
market
and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make  QA on all this 
devices
too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to 
try to

understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release
candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working 
every day
and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I 
should

run this test booting a live image maybe.


Thanks,

--
Gabriel.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B  wrote:


Hi Gabriel,

Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for 
each and
every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to 
hardware

components like GPU.

The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very
open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) 
running
even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an 
update to

Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop
because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific 
combination of
hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us 
who do
"hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we 
personally own
and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as 
you

tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an
issue.

To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for 
Xorg
and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers 
BEFORE they

release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an
official Ubuntu repo.

Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to 
prevent

similar issues in the future,

Damir



Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300
Subject: Hardware related test cases.
From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com

Hello QA team,

Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
distribution upgrade ?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721

Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video

performance
specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop 
unusable

after the dist upgrade.

I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,

Any guidance is welcome :-)

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Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Gaberial, downloading and running the current image of vivid is an 
excellent way to avoid the bug in the future by letting developers know 
about it know, rather than later.


Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup

and

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester

Nicholas

On 01/22/2015 04:21 PM, gabriel.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response !

Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market
and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make  QA on all this devices
too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to
understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release
candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day
and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should
run this test booting a live image maybe.


Thanks,

--
Gabriel.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B  wrote:


Hi Gabriel,

Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and
every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware
components like GPU.

The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very
open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running
even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to
Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop
because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of
hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do
"hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own
and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you
tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an
issue.

To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg
and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they
release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an
official Ubuntu repo.

Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent
similar issues in the future,

Damir



Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300
Subject: Hardware related test cases.
From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com

Hello QA team,

Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
distribution upgrade ?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721

Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video

performance

specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable
after the dist upgrade.

I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,

Any guidance is welcome :-)

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Re: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread gabriel.v...@gmail.com
Hi Damir, Thanks for you quick response !

Yes, I'm aware of the huge diversity of hardware that exist in the market
and I'm aware of the heroic effort needed to make  QA on all this devices
too. I'm not sure how to run this tests, I'll dive in the QA wiki to try to
understand the QA workflow. I have to find a way to test a release
candidate without adding any PPA since I use my laptop to working every day
and I want to keep my ubuntu as stable as possible. I guess that I should
run this test booting a live image maybe.


Thanks,

--
Gabriel.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Damir B  wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
>
> Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on for each and
> every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages related to hardware
> components like GPU.
>
> The problem is, as I am sure you are aware, the hardware market is very
> open.Tons and tons of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running
> even more varied combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to
> Xorg has slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop
> because the update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of
> hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who do
> "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally own
> and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model as you
> tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't report an
> issue.
>
> To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to an unstable PPA for Xorg
> and report issues with your specific hardware to the developers BEFORE they
> release it publicly through a stable PPA or in this case, probably an
> official Ubuntu repo.
>
> Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent
> similar issues in the future,
>
> Damir
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300
> > Subject: Hardware related test cases.
> > From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
> > To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
> >
> > Hello QA team,
> >
> > Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
> > distribution upgrade ?
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721
> >
> > Is there any test cases related to hardware performance, video
> performance
> > specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable
> > after the dist upgrade.
> >
> > I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,
> >
> > Any guidance is welcome :-)
> >
> > --
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RE: Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread Damir B
Hi Gabriel,

Believe you me, there is definitely hardware testing going on
 for each and every release of Ubuntu, include updates to packages 
related to hardware components like GPU.

The problem is, as I am 
sure you are aware, the hardware market is very open.Tons and tons 
of combinations of laptops (makes/models) running even more varied 
combinations of GPUs. In your case, it seems an update to Xorg has 
slowed down the performance of Ubuntu overall on your laptop because the
 update was maybe not optimized for your specific combination of 
hardware. How can that be prevented in the future? Well, most of us who 
do "hardware related testing" do so with the hardware that we personally
 own and use. This means in your case, nobody will the same make/model 
as you tested the performance of Xorg, or maybe they did but didn't 
report an issue.

To prevent in the future, you could subscribe to
 an unstable PPA for Xorg and report issues with your specific hardware 
to the developers BEFORE they release it publicly through a stable PPA 
or in this case, probably an official Ubuntu repo.

Hope you see how this sort of thing occurs and how you can help to prevent 
similar issues in the future, 

Damir


> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:41:18 -0300
> Subject: Hardware related test cases.
> From: gabriel.v...@gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> Hello QA team,
> 
> Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
> distribution upgrade ?
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721
> 
> Is there any test cases related to hardware performance,  video performance
> specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable
> after the dist upgrade.
> 
> I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,
> 
> Any guidance is welcome :-)
> 
> -- 
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Hardware related test cases.

2015-01-22 Thread gabriel.v...@gmail.com
Hello QA team,

Is there any way to help to avoid this kind of bugs popup in every
distribution upgrade ?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1386721

Is there any test cases related to hardware performance,  video performance
specifically . Bugs like this has the potential to make a laptop unusable
after the dist upgrade.

I'd like to help trying to avoid this kind of bugs in future releases,

Any guidance is welcome :-)

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