Re: LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
Hi, On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 02:34:08PM -0500, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > On 02/13/2016 10:22 AM, Ian Bruntlett wrote: > >Hi All, > > > >Was using LibreOffice Draw to do some nice inlays for Ubuntu CDs (stored in > >DVD boxes) when Draw crashed, losing 10 minutes worth of work. > > > >This is the first time I've experienced a LibreOffice crash that I can > >remember. Would it be a good idea to give people the option to, say, run > >"LibreOffice Legacy" (i.e. v4) as well as LibreOffice 5? > On the topic of having both available, that's a question for Bjoern. It's a > matter of packaging and maintaining both. Presumably, you may be able to get > it from a ppa, though it's not clear if you can have both installed at once. So, there are three scenarios: 1/ running the LibreOffice version matching the Ubuntu release (e.g. Ubuntu trusty and LibreOffice 4.2, Ubuntu wily and LibreOffice 5.0) => this is supported by Ubuntu archives 2/ running a newer LibreOffice version on an older Ubuntu release (e.g. Ubuntu trusty and LibreOffice 5.0, Ubuntu wily and LibreOffice 5.1) => this is community supported by LibreOffice ppas 3/ running an older LibreOffice version on an newer Ubuntu release => this is not supported For 3/ note that even upstream LibreOffice supports releases for some 9 months only, so older LibreOffice releases would be a bad idea anyway for security reasons. The exception to this is distros (like Ubuntu) supporting LTS versions (thus LibreOffice 4.2 is still supported with security fixes on Ubuntu 14.04). If you care for high stability, the last number of the LibreOffice version (z in x.y.z) is the bugfix release -- the higher the better. Our SRU process is a bit slow to keep up with those unfortunately, so those updates happen only with security updates (like the LibreOffice 5.0.5 that just happened on wily). But the LibreOffice ppas are usually quite quick, and have the bugfix releases on the same day as upstream usually (so you would have had LibreOffice 5.0.3, 5.0.4 -- each fixing bugs, not introducing new features -- over 5.0.2) quite early on with that. As for a "LibreOffice Legacy" -- we are simply lacking manpower for supporting that. If we would go about that, the least painful approach would be to forward-port the LibreOffice LTS version (e.g. currently LibreOffice 4.2.x from trusty) to the non-LTS (e.g. wily). Volunteers for that are welcome of course. ;) Best, Bjoern -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
On 02/13/2016 10:22 AM, Ian Bruntlett wrote: Hi All, Was using LibreOffice Draw to do some nice inlays for Ubuntu CDs (stored in DVD boxes) when Draw crashed, losing 10 minutes worth of work. This is the first time I've experienced a LibreOffice crash that I can remember. Would it be a good idea to give people the option to, say, run "LibreOffice Legacy" (i.e. v4) as well as LibreOffice 5? On the topic of having both available, that's a question for Bjoern. It's a matter of packaging and maintaining both. Presumably, you may be able to get it from a ppa, though it's not clear if you can have both installed at once. Nicholas -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
Ian Bruntlett: > The more you change something, the greater the chance/risk of a bug > creeping in. That is true. On the other hand well made applications Never crash. Under a good software development work flow, it is nearly impossible a crashing bug to pass into production. The only problem when software is buggy is their developers or either do not care at all, or they care too much <-- -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
Hi, On 14 February 2016 at 19:23, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Ian Bruntlett: > >> Would it be a good idea to give people the option to, say, run >> "LibreOffice Legacy" (i.e. v4) as well as LibreOffice 5? >> > > Why not just fix it? > It is a bug. I believe a lot of work went into the move from v4 to v5. The more you change something, the greater the chance/risk of a bug creeping in. And, even if it would not be fixed, who uses Drawn on their daily work? > In decreasing order, I use Write extensively, Calc when I'm drawing up a shopping list and Draw when I'm doing nice disc-inlays. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
Ian Bruntlett: Would it be a good idea to give people the option to, say, run "LibreOffice Legacy" (i.e. v4) as well as LibreOffice 5? Why not just fix it? And, even if it would not be fixed, who uses Drawn on their daily work? Fabio Marconi: > Fabio, your last message in this thread was empty. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
LibreOffice 5.0.2.2
Hi All, Was using LibreOffice Draw to do some nice inlays for Ubuntu CDs (stored in DVD boxes) when Draw crashed, losing 10 minutes worth of work. This is the first time I've experienced a LibreOffice crash that I can remember. Would it be a good idea to give people the option to, say, run "LibreOffice Legacy" (i.e. v4) as well as LibreOffice 5? Am just relieved I wasn't working on something important. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
