Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella

Saqman2060:
> There was a discussion on possible training needed and a way to make
> the documentation team wiki more easier to understand.

I think that anything that makes the job easier or cleaner should be of 
higher priority than even doing the job (except if postponing would make 
something to fail).


This is because, counter intuitively, the job is usually finished sooner 
this way.


On the second hand, I suspect Ubuntu fail in attracting some 
contributors because it is somehow focused in the non essential (like 
devices, cloud, beauty). These things are good to have, but look that 
pursuing the non essential ultimately translates in the non pursuing of 
the essential.


What a contributor is really looking for is a sense of purpose (things 
like openness, robustness, simplicity, humanity, flexibility).


And I am very happy about how Ubuntu and Canonical have done their job. 
Just this specific situation has to be looked deeper, which is to define 
the goal of Ubuntu. If you ask yourself "what is the goal of Ubuntu?" 
you will know what I mean.


And money is not a goal, but a mean. Sorry if this conflicts with some 
corporate clients, but it is like that: nobody feels long term 
motivation because of money, but because of getting things done. You 
need it, it is good to have more, but what creates motion are other things.


Thanks for attending.



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RE: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread Saqman2060
No worries. There will be more like this. We discussed issues with the 
documentation team page and issues with testing milestone releases. It appears 
doc members are finding it hard to contribute documentation because it is 
complicated. There was a discussion on possible training needed and a way to 
make the documentation team wiki more easier to understand. Plus, there maybe a 
new markup language used to aid in converting the docs to the required format. 

If you want more info, get in touch with Walter.

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Subject: Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

i missed it... dammit


2015-02-19 12:13 GMT-05:00 istimsak :



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mattia Rizzolo  wrote:

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM, istimsak  wrote:

 Is the meeting taking place on freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com? How is the
 second link accessed?


irc.ubuntu.com is only a redirect to the freenode.net network...

Ok, then I am in the right place.



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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread Samuel Gabbay
i missed it... dammit

2015-02-19 12:13 GMT-05:00 istimsak :

>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mattia Rizzolo 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM, istimsak  wrote:
>>
>>>  Is the meeting taking place on freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com? How is
>>> the
>>>  second link accessed?
>>>
>>
>> irc.ubuntu.com is only a redirect to the freenode.net network...
>>
> Ok, then I am in the right place.
>
>
>> --
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>> Mattia Rizzolo
>>
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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread istimsak



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mattia Rizzolo  
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM, istimsak  
wrote:
 Is the meeting taking place on freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com? How 
is the

 second link accessed?


irc.ubuntu.com is only a redirect to the freenode.net network...

Ok, then I am in the right place.


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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread istimsak
Is the meeting taking place on freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com? How is 
the second link accessed?


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Walter Lapchynski  
wrote:
I should be there too, albeit a bit distracted by our morning work 
meeting.


@wxl
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Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
On Feb 18, 2015 6:38 PM, "Elfy"  wrote:


 On 19/02/15 02:06, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
 > I'll be there ;-)

 So will I be

 :D
 > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
 > nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
 >
 >> On 02/16/2015 12:25 PM, Elfy wrote:
 >>
 >>> On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:
 >>>
  Hello all,
 
  The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next 
cycle with

  the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.
 
  The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 
17:00UTC.

 
  For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the 
wiki.

 
 
  regards
 
  Elfy
 
  [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
 
   Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday
 >>>  Thanks for the reminder! Everyone, please feel free to come 
and meet
 >> with the council. Simply show up on IRC and make your comments 
known.

 It's
 >> a great time to review what we're doing and how things are 
working.

 >>
 >> Cheers,
 >>
 >> Nicholas
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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-19 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM, istimsak  wrote:
> Is the meeting taking place on freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com? How is the
> second link accessed?

irc.ubuntu.com is only a redirect to the freenode.net network...

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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-18 Thread Walter Lapchynski
I should be there too, albeit a bit distracted by our morning work meeting.

@wxl
Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
On Feb 18, 2015 6:38 PM, "Elfy"  wrote:

> On 19/02/15 02:06, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
> > I'll be there ;-)
>
> So will I be
>
> :D
> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> > nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/16/2015 12:25 PM, Elfy wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello all,
> 
>  The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next cycle with
>  the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.
> 
>  The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 17:00UTC.
> 
>  For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the wiki.
> 
> 
>  regards
> 
>  Elfy
> 
>  [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
> 
>   Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday
> >>>  Thanks for the reminder! Everyone, please feel free to come and meet
> >> with the council. Simply show up on IRC and make your comments known.
> It's
> >> a great time to review what we're doing and how things are working.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Nicholas
> >>
> >>
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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-18 Thread Elfy
On 19/02/15 02:06, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
> I'll be there ;-)

So will I be

:D
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/16/2015 12:25 PM, Elfy wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next cycle with
 the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.

 The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 17:00UTC.

 For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the wiki.


 regards

 Elfy

 [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda

  Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday
>>>  Thanks for the reminder! Everyone, please feel free to come and meet
>> with the council. Simply show up on IRC and make your comments known. It's
>> a great time to review what we're doing and how things are working.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>>
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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-18 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
I'll be there ;-)

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On 02/16/2015 12:25 PM, Elfy wrote:
>
>> On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next cycle with
>>> the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.
>>>
>>> The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 17:00UTC.
>>>
>>> For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Elfy
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
>>>
>>>  Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday
>>
>>  Thanks for the reminder! Everyone, please feel free to come and meet
> with the council. Simply show up on IRC and make your comments known. It's
> a great time to review what we're doing and how things are working.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nicholas
>
>
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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-18 Thread Nicholas Skaggs

On 02/16/2015 12:25 PM, Elfy wrote:

On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:

Hello all,

The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next cycle with
the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.

The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 17:00UTC.

For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the wiki.


regards

Elfy

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda


Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday

Thanks for the reminder! Everyone, please feel free to come and meet 
with the council. Simply show up on IRC and make your comments known. 
It's a great time to review what we're doing and how things are working.


Cheers,

Nicholas

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Re: Community Council catchup - QA Team

2015-02-16 Thread Elfy
On 24/10/14 10:47, Elfy wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The Community Council is scheduling meetings over the next cycle with
> the various teams, councils and boards in the Ubuntu community.
>
> The  meeting with QA is scheduled for 19th February  @ 17:00UTC.
>
> For more information, please see our Agenda[1] page on the wiki.
>
>
> regards
>
> Elfy
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
>
Just a quick reminder that this is coming up on Thursday

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