Re: Duplicate info in the download pages for 14.04.1 Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome?
Hi Ali, I hope list members don't mind the top-post... My conversation with Phill is not about broken pages, it's about confusing pages. When I arrive at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ I see what appears to be duplicate text, links, etc Specifically, it appears that Desktop Image and the following paragraphs are duplicated. If I hover over the first link below that PC (Intel x86) desktop image I can see that the target is the 14.04.1 version; and the PC (Intel x86) desktop image a few paragraphs below, I can see that it is referring to the 14.04 version. So my suggestion is to change the text slightly so that it is clear to the visitor that there is a difference between the two sets of links offered. For example, the first Desktop Image could be Desktop Image (14.04.1) and the second could be Desktop Image (14.04). This isn't a show stopper but it's definitely confusing - I only noticed that the links were different following Phill's note. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Ali/amjjawad ali.li...@amjjawad.net wrote: Hi, If anything is wrong with Ubuntu GNOME Wiki, let me know, please ;) Sent from my smartphone Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Chris, after a couple of edits https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu should now point to correct area. If ubuntuGnome have issues please raise it with them and darkxst (The boss there) will give me permission to go editing. I am still not too sure what you mean by the order. Both flavours are new to LTS, but It is the way it has always been done Was the last I was told. As you rightly say, oldest at the bottom and newest at the top makes sense to humans :) Just don't quote me on that as I'm banned from commenting on how such things are done :D Keep testing, that is what matters The end users have no idea, and are not interested in, the work that goes into each release. Regards, Phill. On 3 August 2014 03:00, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phill, Thanks for the reply. I guess I can see all of that below in the actual links to the iso's, etc and that makes sense now that you have explained it. What still seems weird to me is what I've copied below. I can't see any difference between the first Desktop image... and the second Desktop image... unless I hover over the links. Then I see that the first grouping is 14.04.1 and the second is 14.04 Would it not make more sense to put something like Desktop image (14.04.1) in the first group and Desktop image (14.04) in the second? Lubuntu is similar as far as I can see except it includes the Desktop images and the Alternate install images (ie two sets of both, only distinguishable by hovering over the links). Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of image is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if
Re: Duplicate info in the download pages for 14.04.1 Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome?
Hi Chris, this has been some what painful for editing... but, let me give you what we've learned .. on cdimage 14.04.1 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.1 stuff 14.04.2 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.2 stuff 14.04.3 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.3 stuff 14.04.4 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.4 stuff This is the standard for LTS point updates. for example look at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/ It has taken a bit of time for us to get used to the nomenclature of the point updates as it our first times having them. Regards, Phill. On 2 August 2014 22:43, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the info and links following Select an image on the download pages appears to be duplicated? Maybe I'm missing something but that seems to be the case on at least the Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome download pages http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen at gmail dot com C'est ma façon de parler. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Duplicate info in the download pages for 14.04.1 Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome?
Hi Phill, Thanks for the reply. I guess I can see all of that below in the actual links to the iso's, etc and that makes sense now that you have explained it. What still seems weird to me is what I've copied below. I can't see any difference between the first Desktop image... and the second Desktop image... unless I hover over the links. Then I see that the first grouping is 14.04.1 and the second is 14.04 Would it not make more sense to put something like Desktop image (14.04.1) in the first group and Desktop image (14.04) in the second? Lubuntu is similar as far as I can see except it includes the Desktop images and the Alternate install images (ie two sets of both, only distinguishable by hovering over the links). Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of image is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Chris, this has been some what painful for editing... but, let me give you what we've learned .. on cdimage 14.04.1 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.1 stuff 14.04.2 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.2 stuff 14.04.3 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.3 stuff 14.04.4 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.4 stuff This is the standard for LTS point updates. for example look at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/ It has taken a bit of time for us to get used to the nomenclature of the point updates as it our first times having them. Regards, Phill. On 2 August 2014 22:43, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the info and links following Select an image on the download pages appears to be duplicated? Maybe I'm missing something but that seems to be the case on at least the Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome download pages http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen at gmail dot com C'est ma façon de parler. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen at gmail dot com C'est ma façon de parler. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Duplicate info in the download pages for 14.04.1 Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome?
Hi Chris, after a couple of edits https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu should now point to correct area. If ubuntuGnome have issues please raise it with them and darkxst (The boss there) will give me permission to go editing. I am still not too sure what you mean by the order. Both flavours are new to LTS, but It is the way it has always been done Was the last I was told. As you rightly say, oldest at the bottom and newest at the top makes sense to humans :) Just don't quote me on that as I'm banned from commenting on how such things are done :D Keep testing, that is what matters The end users have no idea, and are not interested in, the work that goes into each release. Regards, Phill. On 3 August 2014 03:00, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phill, Thanks for the reply. I guess I can see all of that below in the actual links to the iso's, etc and that makes sense now that you have explained it. What still seems weird to me is what I've copied below. I can't see any difference between the first Desktop image... and the second Desktop image... unless I hover over the links. Then I see that the first grouping is 14.04.1 and the second is 14.04 Would it not make more sense to put something like Desktop image (14.04.1) in the first group and Desktop image (14.04) in the second? Lubuntu is similar as far as I can see except it includes the Desktop images and the Alternate install images (ie two sets of both, only distinguishable by hovering over the links). Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of image is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. Desktop image The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image. There are two images available, each for a different type of computer: PC (Intel x86) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Chris, this has been some what painful for editing... but, let me give you what we've learned .. on cdimage 14.04.1 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.1 stuff 14.04.2 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.2 stuff 14.04.3 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.3 stuff 14.04.4 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.4 stuff This is the standard for LTS point updates. for example look at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/ It has taken a bit of time for us to get used to the nomenclature of the point updates as it our first times having them. Regards, Phill. On 2 August 2014 22:43, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the info and links following Select an image on the download pages appears to be duplicated? Maybe I'm missing something but that seems to be the case on at least the Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome download pages http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen at gmail dot com C'est ma façon de parler. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
