Re: Virtualbox classroom session
On 06/01/2013 02:46 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: The classrooms for testing / QA were a new feature of the last cycle. As the Virtual Box in the repos was quite dated, I did not hold a session on it ... OK, understood. So there has never been such a classroom session, I will be doing something new. But: On 06/01/2013 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Please feel free to edit what were my rough notes for what to include on the VBox session. We are hoping to hold the sessions in June. OK, sounds fine... but where are the notes? That session in Raring is the only one whose title is not linked to a log of the session... So... where exactly *are* the notes you mentioned? :) I have found a seemingly-relevant wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/VirtualBox but it is rather old (2009). Is updating it worth doing? Having a wiki page with some pretty screen captures on it for people to look at during a one hour classroom session sounds wise, to me... Attached is a draft outline of what I am thinking of doing (for the wiki page and for the classromm session). Comments welcomed. Jonathan virtualbox-testing.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Virtualbox classroom session
On 06/02/2013 11:24 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Also, the current expected week to run the classroom sessions is from Monday 24th June, that week is currently free on the calendar and provided we can get all the sessions filled in with tutors and times, we can advertise it over 2 weeks before the 1st sessions take place. @All, please get your names and dates / times completed this week so we can get the sessions booked and advertised. OK, I will put myself down for 28 June 2013 at 0200 UTC, which is 7pm on Thursday, June 27th here in California. If that's a terrible time for likely attendees, let me know. Current plan is to stick to one 60 minute session. I edited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy to that effect -- do I also need to book this on a calendar somewhere else? Jonathan -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Virtualbox classroom session
Thanks, no, the classroom people know of the area, once we have the dates / tutors etc in. I just need to let them know it is ready go live. Regards, Phill. On 3 June 2013 04:44, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Also, the current expected week to run the classroom sessions is from Monday 24th June, that week is currently free on the calendar and provided we can get all the sessions filled in with tutors and times, we can advertise it over 2 weeks before the 1st sessions take -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Virtualbox classroom session
Jonathan, If you just want to a 30 min session on the 'extras' package separate to 'main' one, please amend the table or just include it in your session Also, the current expected week to run the classroom sessions is from Monday 24th June, that week is currently free on the calendar and provided we can get all the sessions filled in with tutors and times, we can advertise it over 2 weeks before the 1st sessions take place. @All, please get your names and dates / times completed this week so we can get the sessions booked and advertised. Regards, Phill. On 2 June 2013 00:00, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Updating any wiki area is good, as it is dated 2009 (and no doubt mentioning the old version) getting it updated would be really helpful. As for what I had pencilled in for the last classroom session, it is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3#Virtual_Box I've created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy/Section3 which you are more than welcome to edit for your session and more accurately refelcts what we will be doing this cycle. Oh, and just to state the obvious, thank you for taking up this section. Regards, Phill. On 1 June 2013 23:42, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/01/2013 02:46 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: The classrooms for testing / QA were a new feature of the last cycle. As the Virtual Box in the repos was quite dated, I did not hold a session on it ... OK, understood. So there has never been such a classroom session, I will be doing something new. But: On 06/01/2013 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Please feel free to edit what were my rough notes for what to include on the VBox session. We are hoping to hold the sessions in June. OK, sounds fine... but where are the notes? That session in Raring is the only one whose title is not linked to a log of the session... So... where exactly *are* the notes you mentioned? :) I have found a seemingly-relevant wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/VirtualBox but it is rather old (2009). Is updating it worth doing? Having a wiki page with some pretty screen captures on it for people to look at during a one hour classroom session sounds wise, to me... Attached is a draft outline of what I am thinking of doing (for the wiki page and for the classromm session). Comments welcomed. Jonathan -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Virtualbox classroom session (was: Re: How to test with low RAM and just one CPU core )
The classrooms for testing / QA were a new feature of the last cycle. As the Virtual Box in the repos was quite dated, I did not hold a session on it as the opinion was to use the newer version, which then would not work with testdrive! The sounds of people bashing their heads against a brick wall were audible :) A lot of energy was put into ensuring that we had the most upto date virtualisation systems available for 13.04 so as to test 13.10. For KVM (Virtual-box) there is a know bug, which I will cover in my classroom session. For the VBox classroom, feel free to edit the wiki area to state what is expected for a student to have installed before the classroom so that the time is spent on using it, rather than installing it. Jackson / smartboyhw / canonical team / QA team / Release team did a lot of the grunt work for test drive being updated and for us to have the (I hope) most recent stable version of VBox in the repos. It was considered too late in the 12.10 cycle to issue SRU's and instead expend our time and energy in getting the testing tools updated for 13.04. There is also the small matter of automated testing and more wiki pages to be updated! So, any help on classroom sessions are very much welcomed :) Regards, Phill. On 1 June 2013 20:25, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/01/2013 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: please excuse my attitude in the last email (It was late and I was on my 2nd bottle of wine!). We all have our weaknesses! Sounds like perhaps you need to work on reducing wine/alcohol consumption, the way I need to work on reducing my food consumption (I'm officially Type 2 diabetic, which combined with high blood pressure and cholesterol is not at all good for life expectancy!)... With respect to using the extras package in VBox, it is my understanding that the extra package is needed to access usb devices in order to boot from. Well, yes... but for ISO testing, you're booting from a downloaded ISO file on your local real physical hard drive, that virtualbox turns into a virtual CDROM in a virtual CDROM drive. Maybe there is a does it boot from USB? test case that I have never done, somewhere? It is roughly the equivalent of restricted-extras. Yes; I just prefer putting as little non-open-source software on my Linux machines as I possibly can. Please feel free to edit what were my rough notes for what to include on the VBox session. We are hoping to hold the sessions in June. OK, sounds fine... but where are the notes? That session in Raring is the only one whose title is not linked to a log of the session... As a bit of further background, the VBox instance in the 12.10 repos was considerably out dated. Getting the more recent one then caused testdrive application to fail owing to to the version level of VBox being hard-coded into that application (Yup, not a really smart idea, I know). Unit193 provided a fix and with the updates to it and VBox we can now use both. As testing is fast moving, it was decided not to SRU the fix into 12.10 but concentrate on the 13.04 and 13.10 repos. Fine. So we don't need to worry about that in Saucy (unless people are running 12.10 on their host PCs, I suppose). If the Raring virtualbox classroom session was not logged, or did not happen, was there a Quantal classroom session for Virtualbox? Was it logged? Where? Seeing that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Raring gets me the 13.04 schedule, I hoped that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Quantal would get me the 12.10 schedule, but it does not seem to exist. Nor does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Precise . So much for consistency?? Thanks, Jonathan -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Virtualbox classroom session
Updating any wiki area is good, as it is dated 2009 (and no doubt mentioning the old version) getting it updated would be really helpful. As for what I had pencilled in for the last classroom session, it is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Section3#Virtual_Box I've created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy/Section3which you are more than welcome to edit for your session and more accurately refelcts what we will be doing this cycle. Oh, and just to state the obvious, thank you for taking up this section. Regards, Phill. On 1 June 2013 23:42, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/01/2013 02:46 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: The classrooms for testing / QA were a new feature of the last cycle. As the Virtual Box in the repos was quite dated, I did not hold a session on it ... OK, understood. So there has never been such a classroom session, I will be doing something new. But: On 06/01/2013 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Please feel free to edit what were my rough notes for what to include on the VBox session. We are hoping to hold the sessions in June. OK, sounds fine... but where are the notes? That session in Raring is the only one whose title is not linked to a log of the session... So... where exactly *are* the notes you mentioned? :) I have found a seemingly-relevant wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/VirtualBox but it is rather old (2009). Is updating it worth doing? Having a wiki page with some pretty screen captures on it for people to look at during a one hour classroom session sounds wise, to me... Attached is a draft outline of what I am thinking of doing (for the wiki page and for the classromm session). Comments welcomed. Jonathan -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
