Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Adam Conrad wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 03:03:04PM +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >> And I'll take care to double check the versioning again hereafter. >> >> I apologize again that this was purely accidental. > > This has nothing to do with versioning, but rather that lintian shouldn't > be in extras AT ALL (and no package from the archive should be). > > ... Adam Dear Adam, Going forward I'll take care of the same. Apologies for the inconvenience caused. Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, December 29, 2012 02:55:51 PM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >> >> >> >>wrote: >> >>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> The existence of >> >> >> >>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12 >> >>.10.1.dsc>> >> was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct >> contradiction of >> >> >> >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in >> >> >> particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >> >> >> >>applications in >> >> >> the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". >> >> Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >> >> >> >> As it >> >> >> stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >> >> >> >>system where >> >> >> extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >> >> >> >>developers that >> >> >> have no relation to extras or the ARB. >> >> Scott K >> >>> >> >>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear >> >>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >>> extras repository. >> >>> >> >>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal >> >>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. >> >>> >> >>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the >> >>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >> >> >> >>problem >> >> >> >>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing >> >>> problem with the main archive. >> >> >> >>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >> >>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >> >> >> >> >> >>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >> >>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >> >>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >> >>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >> >> >> >>Apologies again. >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >> >> > Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? >> > >> > Scott K >> >> Version mismatch happened by accident. > > But putting it in extras was intentional? > > Scott K Again the answer is No. It was purely accidental as I misread and targeted the upload to extras. See [1] But as I said the version mismatch was purely accidental. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-November/002569.html Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Saturday, December 29, 2012 02:55:51 PM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber > >> > >>wrote: > >>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The existence of > >> > >>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12 > >>.10.1.dsc>> > was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct > contradiction of > >> > >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in > >> > particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing > >> > >>applications in > >> > the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". > > Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? > >> > >> As it > >> > stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal > >> > >>system where > >> > extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect > >> > >>developers that > >> > have no relation to extras or the ARB. > > Scott K > >>> > >>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear > >>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to > >> > >>the > >> > >>> extras repository. > >>> > >>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal > >>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. > >>> > >>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the > >>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever > >> > >>problem > >> > >>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing > >>> problem with the main archive. > >> > >>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with > >>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. > >> > >> > >>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea > >>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and > >>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian > >>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems > >> > >>Apologies again. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > > Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? > > > > Scott K > > Version mismatch happened by accident. But putting it in extras was intentional? Scott K -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 03:03:04PM +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > > And I'll take care to double check the versioning again hereafter. > > I apologize again that this was purely accidental. This has nothing to do with versioning, but rather that lintian shouldn't be in extras AT ALL (and no package from the archive should be). ... Adam -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >>>wrote: On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The existence of > >>>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc > was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct > contradiction of >>>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in > particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >>>applications in > the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". > > Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >>> As it > stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >>>system where > extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >>>developers that > have no relation to extras or the ARB. > > Scott K I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >>>the extras repository. I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >>>problem it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing problem with the main archive. >>> >>>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >>>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >>> >>> >>>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >>>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >>>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >>>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >>> >>>Apologies again. >>> >>>Regards, >> >> Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? >> >> Scott K >> >> > > Version mismatch happened by accident. > > Regards, > And I'll take care to double check the versioning again hereafter. I apologize again that this was purely accidental. Sorry for the inconvenience caused Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >>wrote: >>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: The existence of >>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct contradiction of >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >>applications in the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >> As it stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >>system where extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >>developers that have no relation to extras or the ARB. Scott K >>> >>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear >>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >>the >>> extras repository. >>> >>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal >>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. >>> >>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the >>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >>problem >>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing >>> problem with the main archive. >>> >> >>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >> >> >>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >> >>Apologies again. >> >>Regards, > > Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? > > Scott K > > Version mismatch happened by accident. Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
