Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Adam Conrad wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 03:03:04PM +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >> And I'll take care to double check the versioning again hereafter. >> >> I apologize again that this was purely accidental. > > This has nothing to do with versioning, but rather that lintian shouldn't > be in extras AT ALL (and no package from the archive should be). > > ... Adam Dear Adam, Going forward I'll take care of the same. Apologies for the inconvenience caused. Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, December 29, 2012 02:55:51 PM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >> >> >> >>wrote: >> >>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >>>> The existence of >> >> >> >>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12 >> >>.10.1.dsc>> >> >>>> was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct >> >>>> contradiction of >> >> >> >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in >> >> >> >>>> particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >> >> >> >>applications in >> >> >> >>>> the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". >> >>>> >> >>>> Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >> >> >> >> As it >> >> >> >>>> stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >> >> >> >>system where >> >> >> >>>> extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >> >> >> >>developers that >> >> >> >>>> have no relation to extras or the ARB. >> >>>> >> >>>> Scott K >> >>> >> >>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear >> >>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >>> extras repository. >> >>> >> >>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal >> >>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. >> >>> >> >>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the >> >>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >> >> >> >>problem >> >> >> >>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing >> >>> problem with the main archive. >> >> >> >>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >> >>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >> >> >> >> >> >>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >> >>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >> >>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >> >>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >> >> >> >>Apologies again. >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >> >> > Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? >> > >> > Scott K >> >> Version mismatch happened by accident. > > But putting it in extras was intentional? > > Scott K Again the answer is No. It was purely accidental as I misread and targeted the upload to extras. See [1] But as I said the version mismatch was purely accidental. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-November/002569.html Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >>>wrote: >>>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>>>> The existence of >>>>> >>>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc >>>>> was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct >>>>> contradiction of >>>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in >>>>> particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >>>applications in >>>>> the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". >>>>> >>>>> Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >>> As it >>>>> stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >>>system where >>>>> extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >>>developers that >>>>> have no relation to extras or the ARB. >>>>> >>>>> Scott K >>>> >>>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear >>>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >>>the >>>> extras repository. >>>> >>>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal >>>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. >>>> >>>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the >>>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >>>problem >>>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing >>>> problem with the main archive. >>>> >>> >>>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >>>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >>> >>> >>>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >>>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >>>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >>>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >>> >>>Apologies again. >>> >>>Regards, >> >> Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? >> >> Scott K >> >> > > Version mismatch happened by accident. > > Regards, > And I'll take care to double check the versioning again hereafter. I apologize again that this was purely accidental. Sorry for the inconvenience caused Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >>wrote: >>> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>>> The existence of >>>> >>http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc >>>> was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct >>>> contradiction of >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in >>>> particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing >>applications in >>>> the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". >>>> >>>> Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? >> As it >>>> stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal >>system where >>>> extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect >>developers that >>>> have no relation to extras or the ARB. >>>> >>>> Scott K >>> >>> I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear >>> violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to >>the >>> extras repository. >>> >>> I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal >>> should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. >>> >>> I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the >>> reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever >>problem >>> it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing >>> problem with the main archive. >>> >> >>/me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with >>Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. >> >> >>Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea >>was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and >>/opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian >>uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems >> >>Apologies again. >> >>Regards, > > Does that mean you uploaded it to extras by accident or intentionally? > > Scott K > > Version mismatch happened by accident. Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote: > On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> The existence of >> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc >> was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct >> contradiction of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - >> in >> particular "Apps should not be forks or updates of existing applications in >> the Ubuntu archive (main/universe/etc). ". >> >> Who was this discussed with outside the ARB before it was uploaded? As it >> stands, lintian will be upgraded to this version in any quantal system where >> extras has not been disabled, so it has potential to affect developers that >> have no relation to extras or the ARB. >> >> Scott K > > I can't remember seeing any discussion about this and it's a clear > violation of what was approved by the Technical Board in regard to the > extras repository. > > I've removed the lintian package from the ARB PPA and that removal > should be propagated to the extras archive in the next hour or so. > > I'd appreciate if someone from the ARB could explain what was the > reasoning behind this upload so that we can make sure whatever problem > it was trying to address indeed gets addressed but without causing > problem with the main archive. > /me stepping in for the ARB here as I am directly co-ordinating with Niels from debian regarding the arb-lintian. Firstly sorry for the version mismatch that happened. The whole idea was to integrate arb checks in lintian of which major namespace and /opt requirement integrated in lintian. Will redirect any lintian uploads here on to the staging PPA to avoid any problems Apologies again. Regards, -- Bhavani Shankar Ubuntu Developer | www.ubuntu.com https://launchpad.net/~bhavi -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
