Re: RFC: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-19 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 19.04.2010 22:35, Scott Kitterman wrote:

> That's a spec to try and take this integration simplification further. 
> Unfortunately neither Ivoks nor myself ended up with a lot of time to work on 
> it this cycle. More volunteers always welcome.

Well, not everything is there, but:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amavisd-new/+bug/524341

Push it, Scott, push it :)

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Re: RFC: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman


"Roger Hunwicks"  wrote:

>Sorry for breaking the thread, but I registered to comment on the
>proposal to drop dovecot-postfix and cannot see how to respond to an
>earlier message.
>
>I would like to say that I completely agree with Scott K:
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-April/004050.html 
>
>We have a working solution that provides better functionality out of the
>box than Red Hat, et al. Let's implement a better solution when we have
>one, but don't throw out the existing 80% solution because it is not
>perfect.
>
>I struggled with inadequate, obsolete and conflicting documentation to
>set up the first Postfix/Dovecot mail server (on Red Hat) that I
>administered, and I think that the ability to easily implement a good
>configuration including SASL authentication is a big win for Ubuntu and
>definitely part of my decision to recommend Ubuntu Server over Red Hat
>at SMEs.
>
>Incidentally, where does this proposal leave the effort to add easy
>integration for Spamassassin and Clamav:
>https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-more-mail-integration
> 

I think it's about worked out Ivoks' updated version should go in after the 
10.04 RC is out.

That's a spec to try and take this integration simplification further. 
Unfortunately neither Ivoks nor myself ended up with a lot of time to work on 
it this cycle. More volunteers always welcome. 

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RFC: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-19 Thread Roger Hunwicks
Sorry for breaking the thread, but I registered to comment on the
proposal to drop dovecot-postfix and cannot see how to respond to an
earlier message.

I would like to say that I completely agree with Scott K:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-April/004050.html 

We have a working solution that provides better functionality out of the
box than Red Hat, et al. Let's implement a better solution when we have
one, but don't throw out the existing 80% solution because it is not
perfect.

I struggled with inadequate, obsolete and conflicting documentation to
set up the first Postfix/Dovecot mail server (on Red Hat) that I
administered, and I think that the ability to easily implement a good
configuration including SASL authentication is a big win for Ubuntu and
definitely part of my decision to recommend Ubuntu Server over Red Hat
at SMEs.

Incidentally, where does this proposal leave the effort to add easy
integration for Spamassassin and Clamav:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-more-mail-integration
 

Roger
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Re: Bug or hardware failure

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Tarvid
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Alvin  wrote:

> On Thursday 15 April 2010 10:57:24 Alvin wrote:
> > A week ago, a server of mine suddenly started to halt on random moments.
> > Blank screen, no input. Drives and memory where fine. I needed frequent
> > reboots to be able to finally start the machine (always that blank
> screen)
> > Nothing in the logs hours before a sudden crash, nothing in /var/crash.
> >
> > After a BIOS upgrade, the only message I got after a flash of grub was:
> > PANIC: early exception 08 rip 246:10 error 810356e6 cr2 0
> > (Older kernel gives same message.)
> >
> > A replacement board showed the same error on boot, so unless both boards
> > are faulty, a software error is more likely.
> >
> > I had more success getting the system to boot with 'Intel Trusted
> > Execution' disabled.
> >
> > So, how would you debug a situation like this?
>
> Well, the unexpected happened. It was a hardware error. Both boards (or
> CPU?)
> were faulty. I received a replacement board and CPU.
>
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I have a case like that now. My WIFI2200 slowly drops EVDO sensitivity. It
was replaced once and continues to do the same.

Is the third one the "Charm"?

Jim


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Re: Bug or hardware failure

2010-04-19 Thread Alvin
On Thursday 15 April 2010 10:57:24 Alvin wrote:
> A week ago, a server of mine suddenly started to halt on random moments.
> Blank screen, no input. Drives and memory where fine. I needed frequent
> reboots to be able to finally start the machine (always that blank screen)
> Nothing in the logs hours before a sudden crash, nothing in /var/crash.
> 
> After a BIOS upgrade, the only message I got after a flash of grub was:
> PANIC: early exception 08 rip 246:10 error 810356e6 cr2 0
> (Older kernel gives same message.)
> 
> A replacement board showed the same error on boot, so unless both boards
> are faulty, a software error is more likely.
> 
> I had more success getting the system to boot with 'Intel Trusted
> Execution' disabled.
> 
> So, how would you debug a situation like this?

Well, the unexpected happened. It was a hardware error. Both boards (or CPU?) 
were faulty. I received a replacement board and CPU.

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