Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu
On 02/16/2012 10:24 PM, Stewart Smith wrote: > The benefit of Percona Server is in having [...] > and features to better help you diagnose what's going on > inside your server. Not to take sides in a complex multi-sided argument with many factors to consider, but from a practical getting-business-done perspective, my company switched from the standard Ubuntu MySQL release to Percona (MySQL 5.5) in December for just this reason. We needed to understand deep details on the performance of our database; Percona gave us the insight we needed (and more). -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: Packaging AWS command line tools for Natty
On 10/19/2010 01:23 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > The desired packages actually would fit well in this discussion: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-webscale-tech > Eric, Go ahead and add it to that blueprint Done. > and we'll definitely cover it. Thanks! I think this is important. It would be fantastic if there was a general policy to add new AWS command line tools as they are released by Amazon for new AWS features. These are about the only things I need to download and install from source because Ubuntu has done such a great job packaging every other important piece of software I can imagine using. FYI, NattyIdeaPool [1] did not link to cloud-server-n-webscale-tech [2] so I added it. It does link to packageselection-server-n-webscale-tech [3] which does not exist and should, perhaps, be removed. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-webscale-tech [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-server-n-webscale-tech -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Packaging AWS command line tools for Natty
I have provided a bit more detail and some relevant links on the NattyIdeaPool page [1] for the request to have Ubuntu packages for the rest of the AWS command line tools including: Cloud Watch Auto Scaling Elastic Load Balancing Relational Database Service Identity and Access Management Ubuntu already provides packages for ec2-api-tools ec2-ami-tools I believe one of the primary purposes of a Linux distribution is to package software and make it easy to install. In order to keep Ubuntu as the best distribution to use with cloud computing, filling out the AWS software packages seems like an important task even if it isn't as attractive or fun as some of the other software development ideas on the list. What are the next steps to get this project into the list of things that will be discussed at UDS and approved for Natty? [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Trying Ubuntu Server in Amazon EC2
On 10/11/2010 06:24 PM, Scott Moser wrote: > It is in the FAQ. I'm probably sounding like a broken record to you, but as a general rule, I don't believe that people read documentation when it looks like they can accomplish what they want without it. Best to not have surprises or confusing features if you can avoid it, and in this case, it sounds like you can. > The primary reason for > launching with a key was so we could debug if necessary, and explicitly so > that if the user was locked out (ie, no access to their published > launchpad keys), then we could ssh in, set a onetime password and show > that to the user. I believe it's better to err on the side of security than convenience here. This is how Amazon does it with EC2 in the larger scheme of things. If you lock yourself out, they cannot help you get access to your box no matter how important it is to you (generally). That's how important your security is to them and I'd love to see Canonical continue this level of trust. Again, I realize that this is just a simple trial, but if simple things are designed with security in mind from the beginning, then it will be easier to carry through to when those projects and ideas are used in larger, more important situations. > There is obviously trust in the launcher (Canonical) as they could have > done any nefarious things they wanted to the image. Obviously. And when I find that the launcher has put in place a clear back door for convenience, it increases the doubt that they may at some point add secret back doors for some other noble purpose. > The project is open source (AGPL) and available at > https://launchpad.net/awstrial nice. -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Trying Ubuntu Server in Amazon EC2
On 10/11/2010 11:28 AM, John M. Pugh wrote: > Anyone try out http://10.cloud.ubuntu.com yet? I was already registered with launchpad.net and had previously uploaded my ssh keys, so the experience was smooth and fast. I'm not sure how the experience is for the target market in the larger population. It was a little odd that Canonical started the instance with a keypair, so the instance allowed ssh from an ssh key that was not mine. Not that big of a deal for a 55min test, but still a little uncomfortable for folks who care about security and may not be aware that this is not the norm for EC2 instances. It should not be necessary to allow Canonical ssh access to the test hosts, and users can disable this anyway, so probably best to start the instances without an EC2 keypair. I noticed that the 55 min limit is triggered by a script run on the instance itself. I wondered if it would be possible to simply kill this process to keep the instance running or if Canonical has a separate, external process terminating instances that have been running an hour. -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] UEC FAQ page
On 08/17/2010 09:04 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > I've added a UEC FAQ page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/FAQ Sorry to be so picky, but is it intended to be a UEC FAQ or an EC2 FAQ or a "cloud" FAQ? (heh, I still can't stop putting quotes around "cloud".) Amazon EC2 specific questions would not belong under a UEC FAQ as they are separate and distinct products/services. -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Mail Stack Name RFC
I assume you're not renaming postfix, so I would vote for keeping the clear, descriptive name dovecot-postfix. The other choices are more confusing to me. If a set of names are desired for new Linux server users, then perhaps they belong in some simplified view where choices are reduced a la tasksel. -- Eric Hammond On May 17, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Adam Sommer wrote: > Hello, > > At the mail integration session during UDS last week, it was discussed to > come up with some better names for the dovecot-postfix and the new > amavisd-postfix packages. Something that iwould be more descriptive of what > the package does. Some ideas were: > > dovecot-postifx (backend): deliver, mail-stack, authentication > amavis-postfix (front-end): reception, mail-stack, mail-stack-filtering, > border > > My personal preference is mail-stack-authentication and mail-stack-filtering, > but we would like to solicit some additional ideas. Since these packages do > multiple things choosing a name that covers each feature is somewhat > difficult. > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > Party On, > Adam > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Hibernating Ubuntu on EBS boot EC2 instances
Amazon EC2 has the ability to run "EBS boot AMIs" which keep a persistent root disk[1]. This lets a user shutdown (stop) and boot (start) a server without losing the contents of the root disk. There have been a number of people inquiring about the possibility of enhancing the Ubuntu on EC2 image so that during the stop/start cycle they can hibernate/resume as an alternative to shutdown/boot. I see there was some interest a while ago in getting hibernate to work with Eucalyptus[2]. What steps would need to be taken to propose hibernate support be investigated for EC2, perhaps in the upcoming "M" cycle since it might be too late for Lucid? Technical notes: Since hibernation cannot be done to the EC2 swap partition (not persistent) and (I think) hibernation cannot be done to a swap file on an active file system, this probably means that an additional EBS volume will need to be attached for swap (not difficult) or the main EBS volume will need to be split into multiple partitions for root and swap. [1]http://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2009/12/03/amazon-ec2-instances-now-can-boot-from-amazon-ebs/ [2]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerKarmicCloudPowerManagement -- Eric Hammond -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Stable Release Update for Spamassassin
Scott: Thanks for the notice. I hadn't heard this anywhere else. I added the following to my spamassassin prefs as a workaround: score FH_DATE_PAST_20XX 0 When I get a bit more time, I'll test -proposed. Do you know when this might get into -updates? -- Eric Hammond Scott Kitterman wrote: > As many of you who run Spamassassin already know, there is a bug (see > https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/502071 for details) in > Spamassassin where all mails sent in 2010 are tripping the FH_DATE_PAST_20XX > rule. > > For some sites, this may cause all mail that is not explicitly whitelisted to > get marked spam (it's a relatively heavily scored rule). This is already > fixed > in hardy-backports and lucid. It does not affect the packaged versions of > spamassassin in dapper or dapper-backports. > > There are proposed updates for hardy, intrepid, jaunty, and karmic that need > testing. They are all built or building now and should be available in the *- > proposed repository. Please test and comment in the bug so we can get these > out to *-updates as soon as possible. See the bug for details. > > Scott K > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Reporting bugs with the Ubuntu EC2 images
I used to send folks here to report bugs running Ubuntu on EC2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bugs Where should they go in the new bug structure? It seems unlikely that EC2 users will know what package is causing their problem. How do I find all bugs tagged with "ec2-images' no matter what package they are assigned to? This doesn't work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/+bugs?field.tag=ec2-images Should all Ubuntu on EC2 bugs be filed against "ubuntu"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ec2-images It seems more complicated to have to tell people reporting bugs to open the "Extra Options" and add a tag of "ec2-images". Perhaps we should have a wiki page with complete instructions on how to file a problem with Ubuntu on EC2 including things like "Report the AMI id of the image you are running". -- Eric Hammond ehamm...@thinksome.com -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Reporting bugs with the Ubuntu EC2 images
I used to send folks here to report bugs running Ubuntu on EC2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bugs Where should they go in the new bug structure? It seems unlikely that EC2 users will know what package is causing their problem. How do I find all bugs tagged with "ec2-images' no matter what package they are assigned to? This doesn't work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/+bugs?field.tag=ec2-images Will all Ubuntu on EC2 bugs be filed against "ubuntu"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ec2-images It seems more complicated to have to tell people reporting bugs to open the "Extra Options" and add a tag of "ec2-images". Perhaps there could be a wiki page with complete instructions on how to file a problem with Ubuntu on EC2 including things like "Report the AMI id of the image you are running". -- Eric Hammond ehamm...@thinksome.com -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: Ubuntu Server tips fortune?
Yes, if you're running a web site, there's not much reason to use somebody else's URL redirection service. However, from personal experience I would recommend you not create a public URL redirecting service as you'll end up spending far too much of your life fighting the spammers and phishers who try to abuse it :-\ -- Eric Hammond ehamm...@thinksome.com Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/6/30 Nick Barcet : >> * Url in tips should preferably not be pointing to a wiki page, which >> holds to high a risk to be defaced. >> > > Would it not also make sense _not_ to link to tinyurl type services? > These are under even less control than the Ubuntu Wiki. > > Perhaps it's time that we had a tinyurl type system at (for example) > "go.ubuntu.com" to cater for this kind of thing. An Ubuntu run site > such as this could havea redirect to (for example) kvm documentation > at go.ubuntu.com/kvm . Using such a such would mean that in the event > the target documentation changes or becomes unvailable, the > maintainers of "go.ubuntu.com" could just change the /kvm redirect to > something else, and not have to update the server-tips package at all. > > Cheers, > Al. > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: Call for testing screen-profiles
Dustin Kirkland wrote: > Shall we open the floor for other suggested escape sequences? Please > explain your rationale for why your escape sequence is better than > ctrl-a and ctrl-g... I use ctrl-t for screen and have never run into any conflicts with other applications. I regularly use for other applications: ctrl-a (move to start of line in bash and emacs) ctrl-g (what line am I on? in vi) ctrl-z (background process) That said, I think my vote would be to stick with ctrl-a as it is in screen documentation everywhere and even expert users will expect it to be the default. I will set my own keymappings in screen. -- Eric Hammond ehamm...@thinksome.com -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: Creating a encrypted directory during the server installation
If I understand the question correctly, I would vote for the following on server installs: - fewer manual prompts during an installation - less stuff installed by default - easy installation of of features I want after the install is done so I can satisfy all my different use cases I think Ubuntu has done a pretty good job at all of this so far :) Thanks -- Eric Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Portwood wrote: > I would add this, I'm sure we could all come up with valid use cases. > David P. > - Original Message - > From: "Mathias Gug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: Creating a encrypted directory during the server installation > > >> Hi, >> >> Now that EncryptedPrivateDirectory [1] has been implemented by Dustin >> Kirkland a new screen has been added to the ubuntu-server installer [2]. >> The question comes after information for the first user has been >> gathered (Name, login and password). >> >> Does it makes sense to add that step in the ubuntu-server installer ? >> >> [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory >> [2]: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathiaz/setup_encrypted_dir.png >> >> -- >> Mathias Gug >> Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com >> >> -- >> ubuntu-server mailing list >> ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server >> More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu Server Book Needed?
On the topic of Ubuntu virtualization and books... For the last year, I've been creating and maintaining public Ubuntu images (AMIs) for Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) which is an increasingly popular virtual server environment based on Xen. I've also been fostering a growing community around running Ubuntu on EC2. I've been approached by one author about possibly helping with a section about Ubuntu on EC2 but it's not clear if that's going to go through, so I thought I'd let authors and others know that I'm available if you have questions in this area. I'm a huge fan of both Ubuntu and EC2 and want to help spread the word and knowledge about both (especially in combination). -- Eric Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Moving w3m out of standard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 for keeping server minimal or having a bare-bones option I've been maintaining a popular series of Ubuntu images for Amazon EC2 (listed at http://alestic.com ). I like to keep the base install matching the Ubuntu server install as closely as possible so folks know what to expect. The smaller the image the faster a new instance can be loaded. This is already an area where the Ubuntu images beat the other distributions I've tested, and I'd like to keep it that way or even increase the gap. - -- Eric Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIXKV7N9qi28wBkF0RAkohAJsFfLceQkVPLZlQfPmUMiZUB+rvJACfZUgm 3ycVfVAxEfpVoGJHpnCCvG4= =RzBB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
