Re: ext2 for /boot ?
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 10:49 -0500, Wes Hardin wrote: > On 05/05/2010 09:47 AM, Paul Elliott wrote: > > On 05/05/10 15:31, Benjamin Griese wrote: > >> Think about a power off/surge while you're install a new kernel :) > > > > Took the words right out of my mouth :-) > > > > On the server we would much rather have stability over a small (if any) > > increase in boot speed and that's why I'm asking if this was a change in > > policy or a regression. > > I gotta think a UPS would provide better stability during a power outage than > ext3. If I remember right, Fedora seems to default to ext4 for /boot now. Any pluses/minuses relative to ext3 in that respect? Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Something like kickstart?
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 11:51 -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > I have a friend who feels the lack of a kickstart-like ability to rapidly > install Ubuntu server from a preset configuration is a serious deficiency. > > I don't use kickstart and therefore can't argue the point much. > > Does Ubuntu server have something like kickstart? > Yup, Ubuntu server edition has it's own version of Red Hat's system-config-kickstart tool, with a package of the same name. The syntax and operation of the basic kickstart file is the same - but Ubuntu has not (yet) incorporated all of the same capabilities (from memory, Ubuntu does not yet include things like network authentication and package group selection). But beyond its limitations, it works fairly well. (Warning: Shameless plug - for more information, see Chapter 3 of www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Administration-Network-Professionals-Library/dp/0071598928/ ) Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: openssh-server problem
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:41 -0200, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu Server 8.04 and yesterday i'm trying to update via > apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. Seens to be > normal, but openssh-server have a problem when try to create keys. The > problem are "segmentation fault". snip > The following extra packages will be installed: > openssh-blacklist openssh-client openssh-server I see the openssh-blacklist in your update. Are you familiar with this USN? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2 It includes instructions for the new authorization keys. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: kickstart installation
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 20:37 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi > > is there a step by step guide to install Ubuntu Server 8.04 using > kickstart installation. It's very similar to how it's done on Red Hat. The system-config-kickstart package is available from the main repository. One community guide (for 7.10) https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html warning: shameless plug: For one step-by-step guide (for 8.04 server), see Chapter 3 of www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Administration-Network-Professionals-Library/dp/0071598928/ Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: hard to find info about init
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 21:41 -0800, jim wrote: > thank you, mike, >that helps. i've looked at the /etc/event.d/ > files and found that none of them contain the > string dhcp or dhclient > # grep -i dhcp /etc/event.d/* > # grep -i dhclient /etc/event.d/* Dear Jim, If you're looking for how network addresses are assigned, that's a different subject. It's governed by the /etc/init.d/networking script, as started by /etc/rcS.d/, based on the /etc/event.d/rcS script. It doesn't get to a DHCP client until it reads the related configuration file, /etc/network/interfaces, I think (based on memory) via the ifup command. Good luck, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: hard to find info about init
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 19:14 -0800, jim wrote: > thank you, john. >i looked at the upstart page. my ubuntu > server (8.04) system doesn't have upstart > on it; the ps command shows init as > process number 1. >so i'm still looking for information > about the init process: what files does it > reference as it comes up and as it runs? > how to configure init? Dear Jim, I think John pointed you to that page, here: > > http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ is the main page and most of the details can > > be found on the wiki - http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/ > > While the "init" process still exists, it is part of the Upstart system. In essence, the files "referenced" by init are in the /etc/event.d/ directory. Most of these are scripts - groups of commands executed under conditions implied in each file - or by the name of the file, such as control-alt-delete. Under the Upstart system, configuring "init" means configuring these files. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu JeOS image for testing?
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 12:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, > > I am hoping to fill the remaining gap in ISO QA INSTALL testing for > the latest release - install JeOS under VMware ESX, but I can't find > the latest JeOS .iso file to attempt the install. Could someone please > give me a pointer? Haven't tried it personally on Intrepid Ibex. But I gather from previous messages that it's now the "minimal" install of Ubuntu Server. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Install Xwindows to Ubuntu Server
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 20:57 +1000, David Dang wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to Ubuntu. I downloaded Unbuntu Desk top and having used it > very effectively for the last few months. However, I am stuck wit > Ubuntu Server because it does not have Xwindows. I tried to install it > many times but I met with failure because it always encounter an IP > address that it could not be contacted. Dear David, If you have an IP address on the Ubuntu Server, it should have been able to download the ubuntu-desktop packages. Based on the failure you reported, boot into "recovery mode" on the Ubuntu Server, select "Drop To Root Shell Prompt", and then review the X server log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log . Error messages start with an (EE) . Alternatively, if it's a server, you may prefer to administer it remotely. This bypasses any X Server problems on the Ubuntu Server. If you also install the secure shell (openssh-server), you should be able to connect to that Ubuntu Server remotely with the following command: $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] At that point, you should be able to run GUI admin tools (as well as regular command line tools) remotely. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu Server graphical interface?
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 15:31 -0700, Martin Hess wrote: > I find people who think in terms of a few servers will at times find a > desktop GUI compelling, but once you move to hundreds or thousands of > servers the idea of connecting into a desktop GUI on each machine to > administer is beyond ridiculous. > > > I think GUIs are fine but only if they can be used control whole > swaths of machines at once i.e. > > * upgrade some package on some set of machines > > * revert to prior package on some set of machines > > * compare machines for installed package differences > > * change netfilter policies on some set of machines to refuse or allow > a certain type of traffic > > * start/stop service on some set of machines > > * change config file on some set of machines > > * ect... Dear Martin, I think that's the reason behind Landscape - and alternatives such as the Red Hat Network and SUSE's Zenworks. (and I'm guessing Microsoft's SMS, but I've never tried that one.) I'm pretty sure all three allows automated remote actions as you suggest - on groups of machines at a time. But they're all primarily Web-based tools. While I remember working with some command line options for Zenworks a while back which accomplished some of what you suggest, I'm not aware of any such command line tools for RHN or Landscape, at least beyond registering individual systems. However, they do allow cron-style implementation of command line tools and scripts on single or groups of systems. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu Server graphical interface?
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 06:34 -0700, MJang wrote: > On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 08:52 +0100, Paul Elliott wrote: > > Ante Karamatic wrote: > > > On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:23:31 -0500 > > > "Dustin Kirkland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's the purpose of fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment (etc...) on > > > server? It's not like you have some point and click application for > > > setting up apache virtual website or psotfix transport tables. > > > > We find increasingly a large number of applications are *requiring* a > > full X environment to run the setup procedure. It's not something I > > agree with, > > In many cases, I find that X over SSH works for that purpose (with the X > server and GUI on some remote client). In addition, fewer packages are > required on the server to run an X client over SSH - than even a minimal > GUI on the server - much less a full version of GNOME, KDE, or Xfce. And > as Paul suggests, a smaller footprint means a smaller attack vector. > > However, if an admin chooses to run a full GUI on Ubuntu Server, I'd > think he/she would want a - supported - system. While I like > alternatives like Fluxbox or even Fvwm, I don't think they're in the > main repository. I suspect at least a substantial minority of Ubuntu > Server users have some Canonical support subscription. > > > I strongly believe a CLI installer should always be present > > for any software that might end up on a server. Unfortunately it's also > > something outside of our control. > > Yup, Red Hat has moved away from CLI installers too. Let me clarify a bit - by Red Hat CLI installers, I'm referring to tools like printconf and setup - yes, they are not package installers, but CLI configuration tools nevertheless. printconf is no longer there, and I think setup is deprecated. But I'm also thinking of LVM configuration - at least through RHEL 5, a custom LVM setup requires the GUI version of Anaconda. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu Server graphical interface?
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 08:52 +0100, Paul Elliott wrote: > Ante Karamatic wrote: > > On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:23:31 -0500 > > "Dustin Kirkland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the purpose of fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment (etc...) on > > server? It's not like you have some point and click application for > > setting up apache virtual website or psotfix transport tables. > > We find increasingly a large number of applications are *requiring* a > full X environment to run the setup procedure. It's not something I > agree with, In many cases, I find that X over SSH works for that purpose (with the X server and GUI on some remote client). In addition, fewer packages are required on the server to run an X client over SSH - than even a minimal GUI on the server - much less a full version of GNOME, KDE, or Xfce. And as Paul suggests, a smaller footprint means a smaller attack vector. However, if an admin chooses to run a full GUI on Ubuntu Server, I'd think he/she would want a - supported - system. While I like alternatives like Fluxbox or even Fvwm, I don't think they're in the main repository. I suspect at least a substantial minority of Ubuntu Server users have some Canonical support subscription. > I strongly believe a CLI installer should always be present > for any software that might end up on a server. Unfortunately it's also > something outside of our control. Yup, Red Hat has moved away from CLI installers too. Thanks, Mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Ubuntu Server graphical interface?
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 20:13 +0200, Sander van Vugt wrote: > Hi, > > Sure, I know, you shouldn't run a graphical interface on a server. But > some of my customers just want to be able to start up a graphical > environment anyway. And since it's my task to server my customers in the > most optimal way, I'd like to have some advice here: is there any > recommended procedure of setting up X on Ubuntu Server, or is something > like > > sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xfonts* gnome Similar to what Leandro suggests, there's the kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop meta packages. Thanks, mike -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
