Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates
On 03/30/2011 07:19 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote: Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql? Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL releases? There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of compatibility with MYSQL. Percona (working on packaging) MariaDB (available from their own repos) Drizzle (in universe) Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL. I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never been fantastic anyway). There are lots of reasons to go to mariadb! 1) They explicitly promise that they are always 100% backwards compatible to the related mysql version, hence nothing is lost in comparison with mysql 2) Mysql only tracks queries with 1s execution time granularity. Mariadb tracks by default ms granularity. This is very important for performance analysis of in particular websites. 3) MariaDb offers additional features (and storage engines) by default that in mysql require proprietary licences to obtain similar. Every case that I know of, mariadb could be just plugged into the system for mysql without any issues. That are only the reasons that come immediately into me head, there are many more when you look at the comparisons. -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Nagios
On 03/30/2011 02:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:59 -0400, Chuck Short wrote: Hi, I think we should re-evaluate if nagios is the monitoring solution we want to support and if it easy make really really easy to deploy. Seems to me that we should consider dropping nagios from main and promoting icinga as its replacement: https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/ +1 from me -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] ipv6 health check
On 03/30/2011 11:01 AM, Chuck Short wrote: properly on Ubuntu Server with IPV6 enabled. I am interested to help with this -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Server Boot
On 03/30/2011 10:49 AM, Douglas Stanley wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: Quoting Scott Kitterman (ubu...@kitterman.com): There was a lot of discussion around improving the server boot experience before the UDS-M. A number of people expressed interest in seeing more useful diagnostic information during boot. Others expressed concerns with boot reliability on the more complex hardware typically found in servers. How are we doing on this? Personally, I can't remember the last time I rebooted a server and it wasn't via SSH and the hardware I use is the sort there were problems with. Are these still issues for the Ubuntu Server community? Scott K I think right now these issues are oveshadowed by the fact that a great deal of server software is not yet upstartified. I think that needs to be addressed for O. I agree, it can get confusing when for example restarting some services, I do restart, and for others I have to do the older /etc/init.d/service restart. I miss the days when it was all uniform :) Even if there was at the least, some kind of wrapper, so when I did restart servicexyz, if that service wasn't upstartified, it just ran the init script restart for me... Doug +1 to this -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Package Updates
Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql? On 03/30/2011 10:13 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 09:59:58 AM Chuck Short wrote: Hi, For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated: dovecot 1.2.x -> 2.x mysql 5.1 -> 5.5 The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and dovecot2. Regards chuck Since mysql is used by desktop applications we'll need to make sure that's supported there as well. We don't want to get into another mess like we did with having to support 5.0 and 5.1 (to some degree) in Main. I'm very interested in postgresql-9.0, but that should just happen since it's in Debian already and postgresql supports parallel installation of multiple versions. The only question is if it should be the version in Main starting in O or P. I think there are some packaging complications if the highest version in the archive isn't the one in Main (pitti would know for sure). Scott K -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Give normal user access to an init.d script
Hello, I am not sure if this idea satisfies your requirements. However, I think what you mean is, that you want to give this user only the permission to start this particular service (shoutcast), and don't give him full root access via sudo, is that right? If so, you can do this still via sudo. Sudo allows you to configure this particular user in a way that the obtained privileges only allow the starting of the shoutcast script. if you look at the configuration man page for sudoers there are some examples how to do that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132821 has also some good explanations how to do this. Hope this helps, Ralph (txwikinger) Lox wrote: > Hello, > > I have a shoutcast server running. I launch it using an init.d script. > > What I want to do is allow one user on my server to start/stop the > shoutcast server. At the moment I can only do it using sudo. > > Any tip? > > Regards > > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: PHP 5.3 for Lucid
PHP 5.3 has several major additions in regards to namespace, and overloading for static methods of classes. It would be very detrimental to take those important features away from Ubuntu. I absolutely am in favor of PHP 5.3 - Ralph (txwikinger) Kees Cook wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 11:59:54AM -0500, Chuck Short wrote: > >> Quite frankly Im still sitting on the fence with this and want to >> solicit people's opinions on the subject. >> > > Given that people could use Lucid for 5 years, I'd rather support the > future than the past. I'm in strong favor of PHP 5.3. > > -Kees > > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
