RE: Calling for Server Guide reviewers/contributors - - XENIAL
On 2016.04.18 08:57 Peter Matulis wrote: > Please remove chapter 16 (Chat). Peter, If you want that chapter deleted, why don't you do it? > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Doug Smythies wrote: > Thanks all for the various updates to the 16.04 Ubuntu serverguide. > > I am not sure what to do about the obsolete stuff that hasn't been updated by > subject matter experts. Is there any subject matter expert willing to have quick look at the Samba chapter (Chapter 18)? For example in Chapter 18.5.1 it says to install " libpam-smbpass" which disappeared sometime during the 16.04 cycle and doesn't seem to exist anymore. ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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Please remove chapter 16 (Chat). On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Doug Smythies wrote: > Thanks all for the various updates to the 16.04 Ubuntu serverguide. > > I am not sure what to do about the obsolete stuff that hasn't been updated > by subject matter experts. > > ... Doug > > > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc > -- Peter Matulis CDO Documentation Canonical -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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Thanks all for the various updates to the 16.04 Ubuntu serverguide. I am not sure what to do about the obsolete stuff that hasn't been updated by subject matter experts. ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 06:29:30AM +0530, Om Prakash wrote: > md is a good writing format and can use gollum > https://github.com/gollum/gollum, this is a markdown wiki, particularly > handy when we are writing doc in markdown and want to ensure our > markdowns are rendering properly. I've found this website very useful for comparing the markdown output of multiple renderers: http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=-+one%0A+-+two%0A++-+three%0A+++-+four%0A-+five%0A+-+six%0A++-+seven%0A+++-+eight Or if you want a shorter URL but less interesting output: http://johnmacfarlane.net/babelmark2/?text=-+hi Thanks signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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md is a good writing format and can use gollum https://github.com/gollum/gollum, this is a markdown wiki, particularly handy when we are writing doc in markdown and want to ensure our markdowns are rendering properly. > On 21-Mar-2016, at 7:34 PM, Chris Glass wrote: > > While lp:git is probably a step in the right direction (although > switching to markdown would be the biggest win, of course), github > offers a very nice web edition experience of markdown (edit/preview), > and therefore would probably help lower the barrier of entry a little > further, since it takes care of the nitty gritty details of creating a > fork, a branch and submitting an MP for you. > > Despite being a pretty heavy launchpad user, I would advocate for > github in this particular case. > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Doug Smythies wrote: >> Note: Putting doc team back on this thread. >> >> On 2016.03.20 11:04 Om Prakash wrote: >> >>> We are not doing it with git? >>> I understand we would be using markdown, just wanted to clarify if we are >>> intending to use git. >> >> Until I hear otherwise, I'm continuing to use the exiting, >> bzr/launchpad/docbook/ workflow. >> >> If Peter, you and Louis and whomever are going to proceed with switching, >> just tell everyone. >> However, then I would suggest we first: Merge the current pending MP, >> after the "needs fixing" stuff is fixed; Check progress on the Zentyal >> update that Ted Cox is working >> on (Ted last suggested it would be today), and probably wait for it to be >> merged. >> Then you take your snapshot. >> >>> On 19-Mar-2016, at 6:16 AM, Doug Smythies wrote: >>> >>> On 2016.03.18 15:37 Brendan Perrine wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:10:44 + Serge Hallyn wrote: >>> > in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this >>> I read through the section on remote access >>> >> >> ... Doug >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-server mailing list >> ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server >> More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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Note: Putting doc team back on this thread. On 2016.03.20 11:04 Om Prakash wrote: > We are not doing it with git? > I understand we would be using markdown, just wanted to clarify if we are > intending to use git. Until I hear otherwise, I'm continuing to use the exiting, bzr/launchpad/docbook/ workflow. If Peter, you and Louis and whomever are going to proceed with switching, just tell everyone. However, then I would suggest we first: Merge the current pending MP, after the "needs fixing" stuff is fixed; Check progress on the Zentyal update that Ted Cox is working on (Ted last suggested it would be today), and probably wait for it to be merged. Then you take your snapshot. > On 19-Mar-2016, at 6:16 AM, Doug Smythies wrote: > > On 2016.03.18 15:37 Brendan Perrine wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:10:44 + Serge Hallyn wrote: > >>> in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this > >> I read through the section on remote access > ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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We are not doing it with git? I understand we would be using markdown, just wanted to clarify if we are intending to use git. > On 19-Mar-2016, at 6:16 AM, Doug Smythies wrote: > > On 2016.03.18 15:37 Brendan Perrine wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:10:44 + Serge Hallyn wrote: > >>> in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this > >> I read through the section on remote access > > Did you mean Chapter 6 - Remote Administration ? > >> and and file servers I don't know much about the ftp server >> but the server guide goes into very little detail about sftp >> which is included in open-ssh server by default and works quite >> well the only thing I really could not document on this would be >> with external clients running on systems that are not linux. >> However filezilla as a client should support sftp as well. >> The question is where would I put this as it part of >> remote access > > Did you mean Chapter 6 - Remote Administration ? > >> because it uses ssh but also allows file transfer >> although not quite the best for say public file downloads >> like how some places I still see ftp servers online to say download >> a manual with product information on my motherboard. > > I would put in Chapter 14 - File Servers as section 2, bumping the others > down. It could refer to Chapter 6 - Section 1 - OpenSSH Server. > > And then the nonexistent destination reference(s) in Chapter 14 - Section 1 > FTP Server (one of two copied below): > > "If you are looking to transfer files securely see SFTP in the > section on OpenSSH-Server." > > could be changed to point to an actual useful reference. > > If you want to proceed please edit the wiki [1] and add the new section, > put your name on it and set it to "in progress". Or I'll do it if you want. > > [1] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide > > > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 07:51:54PM -0700, Doug Smythies wrote: > > To be honest, I favour pruning guide to bare essentials, > > changing what's left to Markdown, and going from there. > > Putting it all in a git tree on Launchpad would be but a detail. > > I've started making systemd related changes to the trunk serverguide today. > I was going to publish a preliminary (U.S. English only) 16.04 serverguide > on help.ubuntu.com, along with a preliminary (U.S. English only) 16.04 > desktop help in the next day or two. Should I hold off? Thank you for working on it. IMHO, you absolutely should not hold off on any work that you might do. We're short of contributors and anything is better than nothing. Robie signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:10:44 + Serge Hallyn wrote: > in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this I read through the section on remote access and and file servers I don't know much about the ftp server but the server guide goes into very little detail about sftp which is included in open-ssh server by default and works quite well the only thing I really could not document on this would be with external clients running on systems that are not linux.However filezilla as a client should support sftp as well. The question is where would I put this as it part of remote access because it uses ssh but also allows file transfer although not quite the best for say public file downloads like how some places I still see ftp servers online to say download a manual with product information on my motherboard. -- Brendan Perrine -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On 2106.03.17 14:11 Serge Hallyn wrote: > I'm working (in the background) on a new lxd section. I'm writing the draft > in the github markdown format. Serge, thanks. I recall your lxc contribution was very good and much appreciated. > I recall there was some discussion on this > before, so just to make sure - are we still using xml format and the bzr > tree? Docbook XML still and bzr, yes. > Any chance of switching to a lp git tree? :) Fundamental change suggestions do keep coming up. Myself, I do not fully understand all the workflow issues associated with such major changes, including translations work flow impacts. Nor would I know how to detail and estimate a complete project plan, both in terms of a viable timeline and person power estimates. i.e. I don't know how to do the due diligence project planning required to work towards a go / no go decision. Peter Matulis might have a comment. ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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I will help on this. On 18-Mar-2016 3:29 PM, "Louis Bouchard" wrote: > Hello, > > Le 18/03/2016 00:27, Peter Matulis a écrit : > > Maybe it is time for radical changes. We don't get contributions so why > are we > > so concerned about translations? Translations of what? To be honest, I > favour > > pruning guide to bare essentials, changing what's left to Markdown, and > going > > from there. Putting it all in a git tree on Launchpad would be but a > detail. > > > > I tend to agree with Peter here. And if a move to Markdown is the target, > then > why not migrate the Markdown result to the lp:git repository in the > process ? > > Keep the bzr branch XML formatted doc as the reference of where we are, > and the > lp:git Markdown migrated doc as where we want to go. Keep bzr > modifications to a > minimum so the delta remains small and by the time we have a complete > Markdown > version of the document, we will have migrated to lp:git. > > I suppose that using some XML -> Markdown translator could facilitate the > effort. > > I do admit that editing XML is a definitive barrier to contribute to me :-/ > > Kind regards, > > ...Louis > > -- > Louis Bouchard > Software engineer, Cloud & Sustaining eng. > Canonical Ltd > Ubuntu developer Debian Maintainer > GPG : 429D 7A3B DD05 B6F8 AF63 B9C4 8B3D 867C 823E 7A61 > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 03:07:17PM -0700, Doug Smythies wrote: > ... i.e. I don't > know how to do the due diligence project planning required > to work towards a go / no go decision. > Peter Matulis might have a comment. I think it's OK for us not to decide right now. Let's get a backlog of content first. That's the important thing. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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Maybe it is time for radical changes. We don't get contributions so why are we so concerned about translations? Translations of what? To be honest, I favour pruning guide to bare essentials, changing what's left to Markdown, and going from there. Putting it all in a git tree on Launchpad would be but a detail. On 17 March 2016 at 18:07, Doug Smythies wrote: > On 2106.03.17 14:11 Serge Hallyn wrote: > > > I'm working (in the background) on a new lxd section. I'm writing the > draft > > in the github markdown format. > > Serge, thanks. I recall your lxc contribution was very good and much > appreciated. > > > I recall there was some discussion on this > > before, so just to make sure - are we still using xml format and the bzr > > tree? > > Docbook XML still and bzr, yes. > > > Any chance of switching to a lp git tree? :) > > Fundamental change suggestions do keep coming up. > Myself, I do not fully understand all the workflow > issues associated with such major changes, including > translations work flow impacts. Nor would I know how to > detail and estimate a complete project plan, both in terms > of a viable timeline and person power estimates. i.e. I don't > know how to do the due diligence project planning required > to work towards a go / no go decision. > Peter Matulis might have a comment. > > ... Doug > > > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc > -- Peter Matulis Technical Writer Canonical Ltd. -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On 2106.02.04 07:40 Peter Matulis wrote: > We need people to review current instructions provided in the > Ubuntu Server Guide and suggest improvements. > Please visit the following link and help out where you can. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide > > The subjects we need the most help with this cycle are the following, in > order of priority: > > Zentyal > Ceph > systemd > Chat Applications overview > IRC Server > Jabber Instant Messaging Server > > Samba - Introduction > Samba - File Server > Samba - Print Server > Samba - Securing File and Print Server > Samba - As a Domain Controller > Samba - Active Directory Integration > OpenVPN > Samba and LDAP > Exim4 > Mailman > Mail Filtering > > DNS troubleshooting > AppArmor > Certificates > eCryptfs > Monitoring overview > Nagios > Munin > Ruby on Rails > phpMyAdmin > > Instead of helping on a per-topic basis you can also offer fixes to existing > bugs: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide > > We're also looking for help in maintaining the guide in terms > of validating reviews (merge proposals). We need help with the Serverguide. In particular, we need help from subject matter experts. While the documentation string freeze deadline has just past, the Serverguide is not bound by that deadline because it is not a released package, so there is still time to contribute. To summarize where are at the moment: NOWHERE!!! Nothing has been contributed for revised for the 16.04 LTS cycle. ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:10:44PM +, Serge Hallyn wrote: > I'm working (in the background) on a new lxd section. I'm writing the draft > in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this > before, so just to make sure - are we still using xml format and the bzr > tree? Any chance of switching to a lp git tree? :) IMHO, having to write XML against bzr holds us back. I'd write the content without worrying about the format. If we end up in the position of having the content only unpublished because it's in the wrong format, then that's a good problem to have :) (and also a relatively easy thing to delegate) Robie signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On 2016.03.17 16:48 Peter Matulis wrote: > Maybe it is time for radical changes. > We don't get contributions so why are we so concerned about translations? > Translations of what? Well, we have been at least been fixing bug reports, and led by Ted Cox, there was an effort to catch up on bug reports before be needed to split 14.04 out of the trunk branch a few months ago. So translations of that, such as it is. Out of the more than 60 languages we publish only 3, French, Russian, and Italian, keep translations somewhat up to date. We have had comments from some others that, for serverguide, they prefer English. If we want to toss translations from the workflow, we should at least solicit input from the 3 that actually translate. > To be honest, I favour pruning guide to bare essentials, > changing what's left to Markdown, and going from there. > Putting it all in a git tree on Launchpad would be but a detail. I've started making systemd related changes to the trunk serverguide today. I was going to publish a preliminary (U.S. English only) 16.04 serverguide on help.ubuntu.com, along with a preliminary (U.S. English only) 16.04 desktop help in the next day or two. Should I hold off? ... Doug -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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Hello, Le 18/03/2016 00:27, Peter Matulis a écrit : > Maybe it is time for radical changes. We don't get contributions so why are we > so concerned about translations? Translations of what? To be honest, I favour > pruning guide to bare essentials, changing what's left to Markdown, and going > from there. Putting it all in a git tree on Launchpad would be but a detail. > I tend to agree with Peter here. And if a move to Markdown is the target, then why not migrate the Markdown result to the lp:git repository in the process ? Keep the bzr branch XML formatted doc as the reference of where we are, and the lp:git Markdown migrated doc as where we want to go. Keep bzr modifications to a minimum so the delta remains small and by the time we have a complete Markdown version of the document, we will have migrated to lp:git. I suppose that using some XML -> Markdown translator could facilitate the effort. I do admit that editing XML is a definitive barrier to contribute to me :-/ Kind regards, ...Louis -- Louis Bouchard Software engineer, Cloud & Sustaining eng. Canonical Ltd Ubuntu developer Debian Maintainer GPG : 429D 7A3B DD05 B6F8 AF63 B9C4 8B3D 867C 823E 7A61 -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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I'm working (in the background) on a new lxd section. I'm writing the draft in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this before, so just to make sure - are we still using xml format and the bzr tree? Any chance of switching to a lp git tree? :) Quoting Doug Smythies (dsmyth...@telus.net): > On 2106.02.04 07:40 Peter Matulis wrote: > > > We need people to review current instructions provided in the > > Ubuntu Server Guide and suggest improvements. > > Please visit the following link and help out where you can. > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide > > > > The subjects we need the most help with this cycle are the following, in > > order of priority: > > > > Zentyal > > Ceph > > systemd > > Chat Applications overview > > IRC Server > > Jabber Instant Messaging Server > > > > Samba - Introduction > > Samba - File Server > > Samba - Print Server > > Samba - Securing File and Print Server > > Samba - As a Domain Controller > > Samba - Active Directory Integration > > OpenVPN > > Samba and LDAP > > Exim4 > > Mailman > > Mail Filtering > > > > DNS troubleshooting > > AppArmor > > Certificates > > eCryptfs > > Monitoring overview > > Nagios > > Munin > > Ruby on Rails > > phpMyAdmin > > > > Instead of helping on a per-topic basis you can also offer fixes to > > existing bugs: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide > > > > We're also looking for help in maintaining the guide in terms > > of validating reviews (merge proposals). > > We need help with the Serverguide. > In particular, we need help from subject matter experts. > While the documentation string freeze deadline has just past, > the Serverguide is not bound by that deadline because it is not > a released package, so there is still time to contribute. > > To summarize where are at the moment: NOWHERE!!! Nothing has > been contributed for revised for the 16.04 LTS cycle. > > ... Doug > > > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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I'll offer to help out. Mark On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Doug Smythies wrote: > On 2106.02.04 07:40 Peter Matulis wrote: > > > We need people to review current instructions provided in the > > Ubuntu Server Guide and suggest improvements. > > Please visit the following link and help out where you can. > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide > > > > The subjects we need the most help with this cycle are the following, in > order of priority: > > > > Zentyal > > Ceph > > systemd > > Chat Applications overview > > IRC Server > > Jabber Instant Messaging Server > > > > Samba - Introduction > > Samba - File Server > > Samba - Print Server > > Samba - Securing File and Print Server > > Samba - As a Domain Controller > > Samba - Active Directory Integration > > OpenVPN > > Samba and LDAP > > Exim4 > > Mailman > > Mail Filtering > > > > DNS troubleshooting > > AppArmor > > Certificates > > eCryptfs > > Monitoring overview > > Nagios > > Munin > > Ruby on Rails > > phpMyAdmin > > > > Instead of helping on a per-topic basis you can also offer fixes to > existing bugs: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide > > > > We're also looking for help in maintaining the guide in terms > > of validating reviews (merge proposals). > > We need help with the Serverguide. > In particular, we need help from subject matter experts. > While the documentation string freeze deadline has just past, > the Serverguide is not bound by that deadline because it is not > a released package, so there is still time to contribute. > > To summarize where are at the moment: NOWHERE!!! Nothing has > been contributed for revised for the 16.04 LTS cycle. > > ... Doug > > > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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On 2016.03.18 15:37 Brendan Perrine wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:10:44 + Serge Hallyn wrote: >> in the github markdown format. I recall there was some discussion on this > I read through the section on remote access Did you mean Chapter 6 - Remote Administration ? > and and file servers I don't know much about the ftp server > but the server guide goes into very little detail about sftp > which is included in open-ssh server by default and works quite > well the only thing I really could not document on this would be > with external clients running on systems that are not linux. > However filezilla as a client should support sftp as well. > The question is where would I put this as it part of > remote access Did you mean Chapter 6 - Remote Administration ? > because it uses ssh but also allows file transfer > although not quite the best for say public file downloads > like how some places I still see ftp servers online to say download > a manual with product information on my motherboard. I would put in Chapter 14 - File Servers as section 2, bumping the others down. It could refer to Chapter 6 - Section 1 - OpenSSH Server. And then the nonexistent destination reference(s) in Chapter 14 - Section 1 FTP Server (one of two copied below): "If you are looking to transfer files securely see SFTP in the section on OpenSSH-Server." could be changed to point to an actual useful reference. If you want to proceed please edit the wiki [1] and add the new section, put your name on it and set it to "in progress". Or I'll do it if you want. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam