Re: Xenial on USB stick install can't detect itself

2016-04-07 Thread Mark Constable

On 07/04/16 12:54, Seth Arnold wrote:

The usb stick with the server iso is fine and the usb keyboard/mouse works
okay on this hardware, it's the destination installation on yet another usb
stick that is the problem. When I boot onto the installed OS the initrd does
not detect the partition UUID and drops me to the initramfs prompt and the


Ah, I see. It feels unlikely to be your issue, but you may wish to fiddle
with the switch in your bios that controls between legacy bios, uefi, and
a combination of the two.. my first install attempt didn't work because I
used the "both" setting in my bios.


I get the same results on 2 laptops so I don't think it's a BIOS issue and
thanks to your suggestion I have tried some BIOS boot variations but it's
super annoying to have to waste time doing this when 15.10 works fine.

Last night I tried again by loading a daily ISO on the same kind of brand new
USB stick as the destination and put both into the HP microserver and did the
install on that device. This time the partition was found and it booted okay
BUT now the ethernet interface is missing (tg3.ko) so even though I now have
USB keyboard access I still can't upgrade the packages.

Maybe this is just my bad luck trying beta/dailys that just happen to still
have bugs in the installer that just happen to affect my current needs. I have
been running xenial on my main work laptop for 4 months now and a few weeks ago
I was even so bold as to upgrade my main DELL online server from wily to xenial
and that seems to be working fine. I think I had good reason to feel confident
enough to start installing late term xenial iso's a few weeks before the final
release. However, yesterday I ordered a new DELL server and the techs were good
enough to install the last xenial beta2 and the SSD drives had a hdparm test of
118 Mb/s which is slower than the 200 Mb/s on my other server with a SATA drive!
That tech is now in a world of pain because reinstalling the beta iso has lost
usb keyboard access to the DELL chasis (he is onsite rather than using DRAC).

These are my problems because I am using a pre-release, I understand that, but
as I mentioned I had (false) confidence after using xenial on a couple of key
computers and on DOZENs of VPSs in the last 2 months (on older centos kernels)
that "it's time" to go all in and start installing to more serious hardware.

Frankly, my confidence in ubuntu server is shattered and I'm not sure these
fundamental installation issues will be fixed in the next ~2 weeks.


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Re: Xenial on USB stick install can't detect itself

2016-04-06 Thread Seth Arnold
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:20:24PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote:
> The usb stick with the server iso is fine and the usb keyboard/mouse works
> okay on this hardware, it's the destination installation on yet another usb
> stick that is the problem. When I boot onto the installed OS the initrd does
> not detect the partition UUID and drops me to the initramfs prompt and the

Ah, I see. It feels unlikely to be your issue, but you may wish to fiddle
with the switch in your bios that controls between legacy bios, uefi, and
a combination of the two.. my first install attempt didn't work because I
used the "both" setting in my bios.

Thanks


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Re: Xenial on USB stick install can't detect itself

2016-04-06 Thread Mark Constable

On 07/04/16 04:55, Seth Arnold wrote:

Which image did you start from?


Unfortunately I'm not 100% sure now. It might have been a beta2 or a daily
from a week ago.


I did a recent hardware install using ubuntu-16.04-beta2-server-amd64.iso
(0f948fea5a587a62a873d2c001948a6ffbda20b67b05a468006caf9dfd41bcd7) and was
able to see both the USB installer stick as well as the usb keyboard I
used to drive the installation.


The usb stick with the server iso is fine and the usb keyboard/mouse works
okay on this hardware, it's the destination installation on yet another usb
stick that is the problem. When I boot onto the installed OS the initrd does
not detect the partition UUID and drops me to the initramfs prompt and the
usb keyboard also does not work so I can't really investigate what's missing
but it sure seems like some essential usb initrd or kernel modules are missing
on the installed to usb stick.

Like I say, I've done this many dozens of times before without an issue so if
something like this is happening for an LTS release then that is a concern.

I boot the ext4-based OS (and swap) usb stick from an internal usb slot in a
HP microserver so that I don't have to partition the 4 btrfs raid-1 drives.

Perhaps xenial server has not been well tested on small-iron servers.


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Re: Xenial on USB stick install can't detect itself

2016-04-06 Thread Seth Arnold
On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 10:28:51PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote:
> Is this expected behavior with xenial server installs and if so how can
> I work around this and force USB modules to be installed to initrd?

Which image did you start from?

I did a recent hardware install using ubuntu-16.04-beta2-server-amd64.iso
(0f948fea5a587a62a873d2c001948a6ffbda20b67b05a468006caf9dfd41bcd7) and was
able to see both the USB installer stick as well as the usb keyboard I
used to drive the installation.

Thanks


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