Re: Server test plans - EC2?
Just to clarify - my main interest is in a testbed for ubuntu enterprise and server testing - how can we can make it easy for people with expertise in various areas (servers, authn/authz, user interface design, etc) to jump in and make a difference. Not all those people know how to set up a server, or want to. So they need existing servers and test accounts to log in to. Making throwaway servers based on a quick command line or web interface with ec2 is one attractive and cheap option (a lot cheaper for the tester than buying a new server!). But I'd love to know about other options out there. E.g. if someone wanted to test and work on just the user interface to authtool, is there any ldap or kerberos server out there with guest accounts which they could authenticate to? Or perhaps with accounts that could be automatically generated by folks who can authenticate to launchpad, or via use of a gpg key or ssh key stored in launchpad? Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:31:16AM -0600, Neal McBurnett wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:30:21AM -0400, Aaron Kincer wrote: I would suggest to include Domain and Active Directory testing for Samba if you aren't already. I've been thinking about this over the last month. I haven't gotten my ideas fully together for posting, and am headed out this morning, but let me throw these ideas out. To help people test clients and enterprise configurations for AD and LDAP and Kerberos, we'd benefit from some sort of testbed out there. I thought up one possible name: TESTUBE - TESTbed for UBuntu Enterprise. Assuming we get Launchpad working as an OpenID provider, it could be used to set up accounts based on team memberships or whatever. What are the testing modes, approaches? Configure ldap, kerberos, etc servers and domains, with test accounts Configure relying parties: machines for login, samba shares, web servers, etc Use authtool to configure clients, and also do them by hand. Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (ec2) looks like a great resource for this sort of testing, since anyone with an ec2 account can quickly set up new servers out there as needed for tests. They basically make nice Xen-based servers available for $0.10 an hour, with your choice of Linux-based OS. If you want to run an server full time that works out to $73 a month, but if you just want occasional availability for tests of certain auth server and relying party server configurations, it can be dirt cheap. And you can run qemu virtual machines on top of ec2, I think. http://amazon.com/ec2/ A single script could set up an entire multi-machine enterprise network for testing purposes for a few hours, and then take it down, with a total cost of a few bucks. EC2 itself is in limited beta, and it can take time to get an account, though. In the meantime, you can get started trying things out for free at https://www.rightscale.com/ With the right scripts, we could even automate the production of tribe or even daily server builds (with debootstrap?), ready for folks to try out. If someone put a mirror of the tribe ISOs and perhaps some other stuff from the repositories in Amazon's Simple Storage Service (s3 - http://amazon.com/s3/) for $0.15 per GB per month, it would be fast and free for folks to access that storage from any ec2 machine. And eventually we'll want to use some techniques like this to set up an Ubuntu Grid or something that members can log into and share resources on :-) Besides that, since startups are beginning to use ec2 for all their infrastructure, we could provide a ready-made Ubuntu-based enterprise solution for folks to launch and customize in minutes. But of course a testbed could be based on other grid technologies besides ec2, like the AppLogic grid system. At this point I've heard good things about ec2 and gotten a taste of them, but just got my account yesterday so I'm hardly the expert or a salesman :-) Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Hi, We should develop some server test plans so we vcan do sensible validation testing as vwe approach release. So far we have really only checked that the LAMP stack installs. This will of course depend on which features are implemented. What should be the basic use cases? Web server, small office file/printer server? Perhaps you can give some preliminary thought to this at your server sprint and we can hash out some test procedures. Henrik Ubuntu QA ps. please CC me on replies; I'm not taking mail delivery from this list -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
Re: Server test plans - EC2?
On 6/30/07, Neal McBurnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (ec2) looks like a great resource for this sort of testing, since anyone with an ec2 account can quickly set up new servers out there as needed for tests. They basically make nice Xen-based servers available for $0.10 an hour, with your choice of Linux-based OS. If you want to run an server full time that works out to $73 a month, but if you just want occasional availability for tests of certain auth server and relying party server configurations, it can be dirt cheap. And you can run qemu virtual machines on top of ec2, I think. http://amazon.com/ec2/ Yes, I have heard nothing but great things about Amazon EC2. In fact, I have developed similar infrastructure on my own, but using VMware Server. I just got an offer to join EC2 recently. Does Ubuntu need help in working to get an EC2 project going? I am interested in helping if people are serious about it and Canonical would fund the effort for testing purposes... -- Kristian Hermansen -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
Re: Server test plans - EC2?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:30:21AM -0400, Aaron Kincer wrote: I would suggest to include Domain and Active Directory testing for Samba if you aren't already. I've been thinking about this over the last month. I haven't gotten my ideas fully together for posting, and am headed out this morning, but let me throw these ideas out. To help people test clients and enterprise configurations for AD and LDAP and Kerberos, we'd benefit from some sort of testbed out there. I thought up one possible name: TESTUBE - TESTbed for UBuntu Enterprise. Assuming we get Launchpad working as an OpenID provider, it could be used to set up accounts based on team memberships or whatever. What are the testing modes, approaches? Configure ldap, kerberos, etc servers and domains, with test accounts Configure relying parties: machines for login, samba shares, web servers, etc Use authtool to configure clients, and also do them by hand. Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (ec2) looks like a great resource for this sort of testing, since anyone with an ec2 account can quickly set up new servers out there as needed for tests. They basically make nice Xen-based servers available for $0.10 an hour, with your choice of Linux-based OS. If you want to run an server full time that works out to $73 a month, but if you just want occasional availability for tests of certain auth server and relying party server configurations, it can be dirt cheap. And you can run qemu virtual machines on top of ec2, I think. http://amazon.com/ec2/ A single script could set up an entire multi-machine enterprise network for testing purposes for a few hours, and then take it down, with a total cost of a few bucks. EC2 itself is in limited beta, and it can take time to get an account, though. In the meantime, you can get started trying things out for free at https://www.rightscale.com/ With the right scripts, we could even automate the production of tribe or even daily server builds (with debootstrap?), ready for folks to try out. If someone put a mirror of the tribe ISOs and perhaps some other stuff from the repositories in Amazon's Simple Storage Service (s3 - http://amazon.com/s3/) for $0.15 per GB per month, it would be fast and free for folks to access that storage from any ec2 machine. And eventually we'll want to use some techniques like this to set up an Ubuntu Grid or something that members can log into and share resources on :-) Besides that, since startups are beginning to use ec2 for all their infrastructure, we could provide a ready-made Ubuntu-based enterprise solution for folks to launch and customize in minutes. But of course a testbed could be based on other grid technologies besides ec2, like the AppLogic grid system. At this point I've heard good things about ec2 and gotten a taste of them, but just got my account yesterday so I'm hardly the expert or a salesman :-) Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Hi, We should develop some server test plans so we vcan do sensible validation testing as vwe approach release. So far we have really only checked that the LAMP stack installs. This will of course depend on which features are implemented. What should be the basic use cases? Web server, small office file/printer server? Perhaps you can give some preliminary thought to this at your server sprint and we can hash out some test procedures. Henrik Ubuntu QA ps. please CC me on replies; I'm not taking mail delivery from this list -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
