Re: ubuntu server 16.04 and ovirt-guest-agent

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Hermann-Strauß

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovirt-guest-agent/+bug/1776683


Thanks so much!

Am 13.06.2018 16:33 schrieb Andreas Hasenack:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Stephan Hermann-Strauß
 wrote:

Hi Andreas,

thanks for your fast reply!
Because I haven't got a launchpad account yet I would like to ask you 
to do

this.
Is it possible to have a look into this bug report without having a
launchpad account?


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovirt-guest-agent/+bug/1776683


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Re: ubuntu server 16.04 and ovirt-guest-agent

2018-06-13 Thread Andreas Hasenack
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Stephan Hermann-Strauß
 wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> thanks for your fast reply!
> Because I haven't got a launchpad account yet I would like to ask you to do
> this.
> Is it possible to have a look into this bug report without having a
> launchpad account?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovirt-guest-agent/+bug/1776683

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Re: ubuntu server 16.04 and ovirt-guest-agent

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Hermann-Strauß

Hi Andreas,

thanks for your fast reply!
Because I haven't got a launchpad account yet I would like to ask you to 
do this.
Is it possible to have a look into this bug report without having a 
launchpad account?


Thanks and greets
Stephan


Am 13.06.2018 14:44 schrieb Andreas Hasenack:

Hi Stephan,

would you mind filing a bug in launchpad for this? Just copy and paste
the text you wrote here is more than enough.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovirt-guest-agent/+filebug

If you prefer, I could also file the bug myself, but then you wouldn't
receive notifications about when it is acted upon.

Thanks for your research into the failure, that was very helpful.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Stephan Hermann-Strauß
 wrote:

Hi,

I don't know whether this is the correct mailinglist - if not, I would 
be

glad about better suggestions! :-)

We run a bunch of virtual ubuntu servers 16.04 on a kvm/ovirt 
infrastructure

and have ovirt-guest-agent 1.0.11.3-1.1 installed inside the guests.
Since we updated ovirt to version 4.2 the guest-agents fail to start. 
It

seems that we ran into this issue:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455922
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863806

As far as I understand this issue is fixed in ovirt-guest-agent 
version

1.0.13.
Is there any hope that there will be an update to 1.0.13 from the 
ubuntu

xenial repositories?

Thanks a lot for any hint
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Re: ubuntu server 16.04 and ovirt-guest-agent

2018-06-13 Thread Andreas Hasenack
Hi Stephan,

would you mind filing a bug in launchpad for this? Just copy and paste
the text you wrote here is more than enough.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovirt-guest-agent/+filebug

If you prefer, I could also file the bug myself, but then you wouldn't
receive notifications about when it is acted upon.

Thanks for your research into the failure, that was very helpful.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Stephan Hermann-Strauß
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know whether this is the correct mailinglist - if not, I would be
> glad about better suggestions! :-)
>
> We run a bunch of virtual ubuntu servers 16.04 on a kvm/ovirt infrastructure
> and have ovirt-guest-agent 1.0.11.3-1.1 installed inside the guests.
> Since we updated ovirt to version 4.2 the guest-agents fail to start. It
> seems that we ran into this issue:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455922
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863806
>
> As far as I understand this issue is fixed in ovirt-guest-agent version
> 1.0.13.
> Is there any hope that there will be an update to 1.0.13 from the ubuntu
> xenial repositories?
>
> Thanks a lot for any hint
> Stephan
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ubuntu server 16.04 and ovirt-guest-agent

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Hermann-Strauß

Hi,

I don't know whether this is the correct mailinglist - if not, I would 
be glad about better suggestions! :-)


We run a bunch of virtual ubuntu servers 16.04 on a kvm/ovirt 
infrastructure and have ovirt-guest-agent 1.0.11.3-1.1 installed inside 
the guests.
Since we updated ovirt to version 4.2 the guest-agents fail to start. It 
seems that we ran into this issue:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455922
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863806

As far as I understand this issue is fixed in ovirt-guest-agent version 
1.0.13.
Is there any hope that there will be an update to 1.0.13 from the ubuntu 
xenial repositories?


Thanks a lot for any hint
Stephan

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-15 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Thanks for all the projects listed, i'm taking a look and working on augeas
for a project i have for ubuntu, so you may will see it land in intrepid, i
also find very interesting Func, so i'm taking notes and will take a further
look later on, if you want to work on some of this please feel free to
contact me, i'm trying to work on a centralized managment console for
servers. Thanks again!

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Soren Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:37:35AM -0700, Martin Hess wrote:
> > Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we have
> > Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an chance
> > we will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?
> >
> > http://ovirt.org/
>
> oVirt has a rather large dependency stack, which makes packaging it a
> rather large task. I'm aware of the project, but it's not very high on
> my personal roadmap at this moment.
>
> > While I'm wishing for the moon I may as well as ask for Cobbler:
> >
> > http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
>
> I'm currently working on Cobbler. I've been caught up in travels and
> such, but it should land in Intrepid within a few weeks, I'd say.
>
> > Both of these projects are part(?) sponsored by RedHat as an "Emerging
> > Technology Project", whatever that means.
>
> I believe Emerging Technologies was a division of Red Hat working on
> various new stuff, mostly related to virtualisation. I believe it no
> longer exists as a division in Red Hat, but the name is still around
> because users still use it.
>
> > There brethren are:
>
> > Augeas - A configuration editing tool and API
>
> Have not really looked into it.
>
> > libvirt - The open source virtualization API
>
> We already have this. :)
>
> > Cobbler - OS provisioning and profile management
>
> > FreeIPA - Identity, policy and audit management
>
> FreeIPA has an absolutely horrendous dependency stack. I at least will
> not have time to maintain it. Someone else might?
>
> > Virtual Machine Manager - Virtualization management from the
>
> We have this already as well :)
>
> > Func - A secure, scriptable remote control framework & API
>
> I've not looked at func either.
>
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Re: oVirt

2008-06-13 Thread ahsiangsiang
Hi,

That is what i know via VMware Virtual Center and ESX server in my company
DC. I going to study oVirt more.

Always Ubuntu and OSS.

Thanks James

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:24 PM, James Dinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:59 AM, ahsiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I havent study much on oVirt, but it is safe implement it in VM mode?
> > How about if that physical machine down? oVirt can still perform
> > automate load-balance or migration? Personally for me, it is single
> > point of failure in the infrastructure if deploy oVirt in VM.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Soon Siang, Shio
> >
>
> Even if it was installed on bare metal, it would still be a single
> point of failure.
>
> Not that is really matters.  If it is like Virtual Center, then if the
> Virtual Center computer goes down, the virtual machines keep on
> running.  Your virtual machines keep running like normal, and you can
> even still manage them by connecting directly to the host machines.
>
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Re: oVirt

2008-06-13 Thread James Dinkel
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:59 AM, ahsiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I havent study much on oVirt, but it is safe implement it in VM mode?
> How about if that physical machine down? oVirt can still perform
> automate load-balance or migration? Personally for me, it is single
> point of failure in the infrastructure if deploy oVirt in VM.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Soon Siang, Shio
>

Even if it was installed on bare metal, it would still be a single
point of failure.

Not that is really matters.  If it is like Virtual Center, then if the
Virtual Center computer goes down, the virtual machines keep on
running.  Your virtual machines keep running like normal, and you can
even still manage them by connecting directly to the host machines.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread ahsiang
Hi,

I havent study much on oVirt, but it is safe implement it in VM mode?
How about if that physical machine down? oVirt can still perform
automate load-balance or migration? Personally for me, it is single
point of failure in the infrastructure if deploy oVirt in VM.

Thanks.

On 6/13/08, James Dinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm pretty sure I oops'd and replied it
> directly to Luke:
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Luke L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Soren and others,
>>
>> oVirt or Enomalism as a remote VM manager would be absolutely fantastic.
>>
>> Currently, oVirt is set up so that you put it on its own guest VM,
>> though "Brazen" (Dinkel?) says it will not always be so.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, now I said that I didn't think oVirt would always be in a guest
> vm, but now looking over the documentation I can't find what gave me
> that impression.  On the FAQ page here: http://ovirt.org/faq.html it
> only talks about getting the vm image, and if you click on the
> installation instructions, it only tells you how to set it up in a vm.
>
> So maybe it does run in a guest vm, but that really shouldn't be a
> problem.  If want it on a dedicated piece of hardware (similar to
> Virtual Center) then just have that be the only vm on that machine and
> have it manage other machines.  Otherwise, some people will not want
> to have to dedicate hardware hardware just for oVirt, so they can run
> it in a vm along with the rest of their virtual servers.
>
> So really after thinking about this, I don't see why you couldn't just
> install the same software stack on bare metal, but maybe the oVirt
> developers think keeping it in a vm is the best way to go.  Or, then,
> maybe it really is just intended to use a vm during the development
> phase.
>
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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread James Dinkel
Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm pretty sure I oops'd and replied it
directly to Luke:

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Luke L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Soren and others,
>
> oVirt or Enomalism as a remote VM manager would be absolutely fantastic.
>
> Currently, oVirt is set up so that you put it on its own guest VM,
> though "Brazen" (Dinkel?) says it will not always be so.
>
>

Yeah, now I said that I didn't think oVirt would always be in a guest
vm, but now looking over the documentation I can't find what gave me
that impression.  On the FAQ page here: http://ovirt.org/faq.html it
only talks about getting the vm image, and if you click on the
installation instructions, it only tells you how to set it up in a vm.

So maybe it does run in a guest vm, but that really shouldn't be a
problem.  If want it on a dedicated piece of hardware (similar to
Virtual Center) then just have that be the only vm on that machine and
have it manage other machines.  Otherwise, some people will not want
to have to dedicate hardware hardware just for oVirt, so they can run
it in a vm along with the rest of their virtual servers.

So really after thinking about this, I don't see why you couldn't just
install the same software stack on bare metal, but maybe the oVirt
developers think keeping it in a vm is the best way to go.  Or, then,
maybe it really is just intended to use a vm during the development
phase.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread James Dinkel
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Soren Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We do already have virt-manager, which can also manage remote
> hypervisors.
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Except, last I knew, virt-manager can not create virtual machines on
remote hosts (yet).  It's also very weak on features, such as, IIRC,
doing migrations - which is understandable, given how new it is.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread Luke L
> We do already have virt-manager, which can also manage remote
> hypervisors.

I just saw this as I emailed you, Soren.

I'll be studying virt-manager as well.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread Soren Hansen
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 07:47:55AM -0500, Luke L wrote:
> In any case, getting a graphical VM manager would be a great thing to
> have integrated with Ubuntu. I know E has a .deb package on their
> site, so it might not be hard to get them put in the repos.

We do already have virt-manager, which can also manage remote
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Re: oVirt

2008-06-12 Thread Luke L
Soren and others,

oVirt or Enomalism as a remote VM manager would be absolutely fantastic.

Currently, oVirt is set up so that you put it on its own guest VM,
though "Brazen" (Dinkel?) says it will not always be so.

Enomalism is written in Python and uses MySQL for something, I don't
know EXACTLY what. oVirt uses Ruby on Rails.

Beyond dependencies, features need to be compared. For example, Will
migration/load balancing be available in these software packages?
"Beholder" on #enomalism implied that oVirt and "E" have similar but
different goals. We'll have to see.

In any case, getting a graphical VM manager would be a great thing to
have integrated with Ubuntu. I know E has a .deb package on their
site, so it might not be hard to get them put in the repos.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-11 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Thanks for all the projects listed, i'm taking a look and working on augeas
for a project i have for ubuntu, so you may will see it land in intrepid, i
also find very interesting Func, so i'm taking notes and will take a further
look later on, if you want to work on some of this please feel free to
contact me, i'm trying to work on a centralized managment console for
servers. Thanks again!

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Nicolas Valcarcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Thanks for all the projects listed, i'm taking a look and working on augeas
> for a project i have for ubuntu, so you may will see it land in intrepid, i
> also find very interesting Func, so i'm taking notes and will take a further
> look later on, if you want to work on some of this please feel free to
> contact me, i'm trying to work on a centralized managment console for
> servers. Thanks again!
>
>   On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Soren Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:37:35AM -0700, Martin Hess wrote:
>> > Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we have
>> > Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an chance
>> > we will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?
>> >
>> > http://ovirt.org/
>>
>> oVirt has a rather large dependency stack, which makes packaging it a
>> rather large task. I'm aware of the project, but it's not very high on
>> my personal roadmap at this moment.
>>
>> > While I'm wishing for the moon I may as well as ask for Cobbler:
>> >
>> > http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
>>
>> I'm currently working on Cobbler. I've been caught up in travels and
>> such, but it should land in Intrepid within a few weeks, I'd say.
>>
>> > Both of these projects are part(?) sponsored by RedHat as an "Emerging
>> > Technology Project", whatever that means.
>>
>> I believe Emerging Technologies was a division of Red Hat working on
>> various new stuff, mostly related to virtualisation. I believe it no
>> longer exists as a division in Red Hat, but the name is still around
>> because users still use it.
>>
>> > There brethren are:
>>
>> > Augeas - A configuration editing tool and API
>>
>> Have not really looked into it.
>>
>> > libvirt - The open source virtualization API
>>
>> We already have this. :)
>>
>> > Cobbler - OS provisioning and profile management
>>
>> > FreeIPA - Identity, policy and audit management
>>
>> FreeIPA has an absolutely horrendous dependency stack. I at least will
>> not have time to maintain it. Someone else might?
>>
>> > Virtual Machine Manager - Virtualization management from the
>>
>> We have this already as well :)
>>
>> > Func - A secure, scriptable remote control framework & API
>>
>> I've not looked at func either.
>>
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Re: oVirt

2008-06-11 Thread Soren Hansen
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:37:35AM -0700, Martin Hess wrote:
> Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we have 
> Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an chance 
> we will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?
>
> http://ovirt.org/

oVirt has a rather large dependency stack, which makes packaging it a
rather large task. I'm aware of the project, but it's not very high on
my personal roadmap at this moment. 

> While I'm wishing for the moon I may as well as ask for Cobbler:
>
> http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

I'm currently working on Cobbler. I've been caught up in travels and
such, but it should land in Intrepid within a few weeks, I'd say.

> Both of these projects are part(?) sponsored by RedHat as an "Emerging
> Technology Project", whatever that means. 

I believe Emerging Technologies was a division of Red Hat working on
various new stuff, mostly related to virtualisation. I believe it no
longer exists as a division in Red Hat, but the name is still around
because users still use it.

> There brethren are:

> Augeas - A configuration editing tool and API

Have not really looked into it.

> libvirt - The open source virtualization API

We already have this. :)

> Cobbler - OS provisioning and profile management

> FreeIPA - Identity, policy and audit management

FreeIPA has an absolutely horrendous dependency stack. I at least will
not have time to maintain it. Someone else might?

> Virtual Machine Manager - Virtualization management from the

We have this already as well :)

> Func - A secure, scriptable remote control framework & API

I've not looked at func either.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-02 Thread Matt Darcy
James Dinkel wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Martin Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we have
>> Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an chance we
>> will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?
>> http://ovirt.org/
>> 
>
> Nice find.  I like this.  I've been keeping my eye on a similar
> project called Enomalism ( http://www.enomalism.com/ ), but ovirt
> looks tantilizing in several ways over Enomalism:
> 1) it's backed by a more reputable company
> 2) the interface looks "cleaner"
> 3) it uses Rails ( Ruby is the only programming language I know well )
>
> I've been sticking with VMWare Server for now, because I really need a
> full-featured gui tool to manage my virtual machines remotely.  In
> most cases I am very comfortable with command line, but what can I
> say, VMWare has made me lazy in regards to virtual machine management.
>
> James
>   

This is the first time I've seen ovirt, and it looks a great tool and 
would potentially meet my personal needs.

Virtualization managment across a machine is great, however across 
multiple servers from a central point, that is a great step forward.

I'd love to see this sort of tool investigated and pushed forward at 
some level.

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Re: oVirt

2008-06-01 Thread James Dinkel
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Martin Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we have
> Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an chance we
> will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?
> http://ovirt.org/

Nice find.  I like this.  I've been keeping my eye on a similar
project called Enomalism ( http://www.enomalism.com/ ), but ovirt
looks tantilizing in several ways over Enomalism:
1) it's backed by a more reputable company
2) the interface looks "cleaner"
3) it uses Rails ( Ruby is the only programming language I know well )

I've been sticking with VMWare Server for now, because I really need a
full-featured gui tool to manage my virtual machines remotely.  In
most cases I am very comfortable with command line, but what can I
say, VMWare has made me lazy in regards to virtual machine management.

James

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oVirt

2008-06-01 Thread Martin Hess
Given that KVM is the preferred virtualization solution and that we  
have Virtual Machine Manager to manage a single instance, is there an  
chance we will be seeing oVirt anytime soon?


http://ovirt.org/

From their home page:

"From running a few virtual machines on a single host to managing  
thousands of VMs over hundreds of hosts on a network, oVirt is built  
to make virtualization easy and expand to meet your needs."


I need a way to manage many machines Amazon EC2 style and this looks  
like a great tool. Currently I'm writing lots of code to do the job  
but I would love to dump it in exchange for something like this.


While I'm wishing for the moon I may as well as ask for Cobbler:

http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/

It basically make PXE boot setup painless for virtualized installs of  
KVM etc.


Both of these projects are part(?) sponsored by RedHat as an "Emerging  
Technology Project", whatever that means. There brethren are:


Augeas - A configuration editing tool and API
libvirt - The open source virtualization API
Cobbler - OS provisioning and profile management
oVirt - Virtualization management across the data center
FreeIPA - Identity, policy and audit management
Virtual Machine Manager - Virtualization management from the
Func - A secure, scriptable remote control framework & API

I believe these all part of RedHat's Linux Automation for IT 
https://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/LinuxAutomation_whitepaper.pdf

Is someone porting these at this time? Is this on Canonical's roadmap?  
Should these be on Canonical's roadmap?
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