Re: openvz kernel wih lucid?

2009-12-10 Thread Soren Hansen
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:34:14PM +0100, tom wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 11:44 +0100 schrieb Soren Hansen:
 Very unlikely. We are, however, working on getting really good LXC
 (the container technology in the upstream linux kernel) support in
 Lucid.
 What means really good LXC ... support ?
 - will LXC be in main or universe?

LXC is in the kernel, so it's naturally in main. Libvirt will very
likely be the primary way to manage LXC containers, and libvirt is also
in main.

 - What about Documentation? I can not find any wikipage on
 wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com

I personally haven't worked on documentation at all yet, and I probably
wont for a while. We need all the help we can get writing documentation.

 - what about templates? is it easy to create a new container?

VMBuilder will be able to create containers.

 - is it possible to use other distros as containers?

Depends on the the other distro, really.

 - is it actually possible to tryout LXC with karmic? or do i need lucid
 as hostsystem?

There are (were?) a few bugs in libvirt making this rather difficult,
but they are being fixed (have been fixed?), so 

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Re: openvz kernel wih lucid?

2009-12-09 Thread Jean-Michel Dault
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 11:11 +0100, tom wrote:
 i use openvz with ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) on my server. 
 All the newer releases have no openvz kernel. 
 Will be openvz available with ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)?

LXC will be by default in Lucid. Here's a nice page from one of my
colleagues that explains how to do it:
http://stgraber.org/category/lxc


 The problem is, that i can not use ubuntu karmic in the container (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/484240 ) so i have
 to update the host system but there is no openvz kernel available.

We have the same problem here, even with LXC. There's a problem with
init in Karmic. If you chroot in /var/lib/vz/context and do an apt
dist-upgrade on the current Lucid packages, it should work, at least for
testing purposes.

If you need stable containers, use a Hardy guest.




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Re: openvz kernel with lucid?

2009-12-09 Thread John M. Pugh
On 12/09/2009 05:11 AM, tom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i use openvz with ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) on my server. 
 All the newer releases have no openvz kernel. 
 Will be openvz available with ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)?

Parallels seems to have really slowed down in openvz updates. If there 
is interest, I would definitely reach out to them and see where they 
stand with supporting Ubuntu with openvz.

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Re: openvz kernel with lucid?

2009-12-09 Thread John M. Pugh
On 12/09/2009 12:59 PM, John M. Pugh wrote:
 On 12/09/2009 05:11 AM, tom wrote:
 Hi,

 i use openvz with ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) on my server. 
 All the newer releases have no openvz kernel. 
 Will be openvz available with ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)?
 
 Parallels seems to have really slowed down in openvz updates. If there 
 is interest, I would definitely reach out to them and see where they 
 stand with supporting Ubuntu with openvz.
 
Let me rephrase that... If I were you, I would definitely reach out to 
Parallels to help push them to support Ubuntu.


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