Re: run our business's mail server (W2003-DOMINO) as a KVM

2011-03-10 Thread Alvin
On Wednesday 09 March 2011 14:00:23 Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
 Quoting jurgen.depic...@let.be (jurgen.depic...@let.be):
  Hi all,
  
  I posted a small question on #ubuntu-server: I noticed that ubuntu
  10.04.2 LTS has quite old libvirt versions (libvir 0.7.5) which lacks
  many functions, like managedsave or snapshotting.  What's the
  recommended way to get the latest versions there?
 
 What exactly is your goal?  If you just want some data snapshotted,
 I would think the safest way would be to put that data on a separate
 LVM partition on the host, passed in as a virtio device, and use
 LVM snapshots to back up the data.

Be very careful with that. In theory it should work, but when you backup the 
snapshot, the load can bring down your server. Especially running virtual 
machines will suffer.

That reminds me I still have to add this information to bug 712392 [1]... 
done.

Links:
[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/712392

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Re: run our business's mail server (W2003-DOMINO) as a KVM

2011-03-09 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting jurgen.depic...@let.be (jurgen.depic...@let.be):
 Hi all, 
 
 I posted a small question on #ubuntu-server: I noticed that ubuntu 10.04.2 
 LTS has quite old libvirt versions (libvir 0.7.5) which lacks many 
 functions, like managedsave or snapshotting.  What's the recommended way 
 to get the latest versions there?

What exactly is your goal?  If you just want some data snapshotted,
I would think the safest way would be to put that data on a separate
LVM partition on the host, passed in as a virtio device, and use
LVM snapshots to back up the data.

-serge

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run our business's mail server (W2003-DOMINO) as a KVM

2011-03-08 Thread jurgen . depicker
Hi all, 

I posted a small question on #ubuntu-server: I noticed that ubuntu 10.04.2 
LTS has quite old libvirt versions (libvir 0.7.5) which lacks many 
functions, like managedsave or snapshotting.  What's the recommended way 
to get the latest versions there?

jdepi ((ubuntu 10.10 has libir 0.8.3 which incorporates snapshotting 
etc))

nijaba jdepi: first look into backports to see if the version you want 
is there
jdepi I'm a little concerned to run critical VMs on a non-LTS version... 
 What is your opinion about this?

nijaba jdepi: if it is not, then you have 3 choices: 1-upgrade to 10.10, 
2-wait until next LTS(12.04), 3-Mess around with packages
nijaba jdepi: I would have the same concerns as you
jdepi thanks :-) but not very comforting

nijaba jdepi: but only if I know I won't be upgrading that machine in 
the next 12month
jdepi nijaba: i don't quite understand what you want to say?
nijaba jdepi: non LTS versions are as stable as LTS ones, they just have 
a shorter life cycle
jdepi aha
jdepi ok, sorry, of course

jdepi nijaba: it's 'just' a VM host, which will run our business's mail 
server (W2003-DOMINO) as a KVM
nijaba jdepi: I see...  try to discuss whith hallyn when he is around, 
as he has been doing most of the KVM/qemu maintenance since 10.04
jdepi nijaba: thanks, i'll try

Presently, I will  upgrade the VM host to 10.10, since a test machine has 
been doing it's hypervisor job for some weeks without a problem.  I would 
be pleased to get some more remarks from people with more experience then 
mine :-).
The network stack is running on a bridged bond to allow for virtio.

Kind regards,
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