[Bug 1039420] Re: NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-09-04 Thread Alba Nader
NTP has public and private keys. http://doc.ntp.org/4.1.0/genkeys.htm
Just like SSL, gpg, etc.

Of course ntp.ubuntu.com and other server owners keep their private key
secure.

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[Bug 1039420] Re: NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-09-02 Thread Alba Nader
I have some ideas ideas...

There is already ntp.ubuntu.com, can you add authentication?

Ubuntu has importance. Can you officially ask the NTP pool if they could
add authentication?

Can you publicly the problem somewhere? A blog post?

I am sure some NTP server volunteers would like to add authentication,
if you can provide clear instructions for them.

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[Bug 1039420] Re: NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-08-21 Thread Alba Nader
No need to keep this private. Has been publicly discussed but without
proper bug report and the discussion felt into oblivion.

http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/authenticated-NTP-td4486136.html

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[Bug 1039420] [NEW] NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-08-21 Thread Alba Nader
*** This bug is a security vulnerability ***

Public security bug reported:

Ubuntu implements so much security one way or another. So much defenses
against network level man in the middle or malicious proxies or wifi
hotspots. Cryptographic verification generally works well but there is
one big drawback: it requires correct date/time.

NTP in Ubuntu does not use any authentication by default, although it is
supported by NTP.

I conclude, that almost no one is using authenticated NTP, because there
are no instructions in a forum or blog how to enable NTP authentication.
Therefore almost everyone uses standard configuration and is at risk.

An adversary can tamper with the unauthenticated NTP replies and put the
users time several years back, especially, but not limited, if the bios
battery or hardware clock is defect. That issue becomes more relevant
with new devices like RP, which do not even have a hardware clock.

Putting the clock several years back allows an adversary to use already
revoked, broken, expired certificates; replay old, broken, outdated,
known vulnerable updates etc.

** Affects: ntp (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

** Visibility changed to: Public

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