[Bug 604998] Re: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools
Great, thanks a lot for all your hard work on this! Appreciate it! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/604998 Title: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/604998/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 604998] Re: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools
So, is there any chance of getting this fixed before 12.04? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/604998 Title: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/604998/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 604998] Re: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools
I am going to assume that most people who use Ubuntu on a VMware product will be using the Desktop version, not the server. Sorry, but this is not the case at all - VMware's primary products are their server offerings, and those of us running linux servers outside of an education setting do so overwhelmingly with no desktop environment. While it's obviously up to Canonical and the community, I don't believe that making the server distribution a second class citizen by forcing use of a source package is the right direction to take just to assuage some potential confusion between CLI and GUI packages. As Client pointed out in June, Software Center will happily point the user to packages containing a .desktop file by default - what's wrong with that? These changes, as well as Evan's in bug #391224, seem to have centered around the assumption that VMware Tools is primarily for GUIs. I'd like to urge you to look outside of your own use cases, please. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/604998 Title: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/604998/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 776103] Re: package open-vm-dkms 2011.03.28-387002-0ubuntu2 fails to build against 2.6.39 kernels, due to missing linux/smp_lock.h
@Nate - I hate to rain on your parade here, as it looks like it was quite a struggle to get everything working right for this package (and certainly, thanks a lot for your efforts). The introduction of X11 dependencies into what is ostensibly a CLI package is not a good thing for those of us who have server systems which should not have X11. Please review bug #604998, and bug #391224 which put that situation in place (as well as Debian bug 561639, where that change was immediately rejected) - a --no-install-recommends workaround worked, except for those of us who wanted to automate the install with something like puppet. This change, to merge the X11 support components into the CLI tools package, has taken that situation from bad to worse, and has rendered this package completely unusable on systems that must not have X11 - I'm surprised that this change moved forward after bug #604998 was confirmed. Please think of the servers! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/776103 Title: package open-vm-dkms 2011.03.28-387002-0ubuntu2 fails to build against 2.6.39 kernels, due to missing linux/smp_lock.h To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/776103/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 604998] Re: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools
See bug #776103 (and my comment on it). The toolbox package was removed, so X11-related components (and all the dependencies that come with them) were merged into this package - the description for which is still (CLI tools). Currently, this package is not usable on server systems which must not have X11 installed. Definitely would be nice to see this fixed for 12.04.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/604998 Title: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/604998/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 604998] Re: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools
@Nate, Yeah, a number of the added depends and recommends lead back to X stuff. Here's the added ones that do, as far as I can tell: - Requires: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libice6 libx11-6 libxcomposite1 libxext6 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxrandr2 libxss1 libxtst6 - Recommends: xauth xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-video-vmware I think a separate package is probably how this needs to end up, I agree. I'm not sure if it could be purely a dummy package - would any of this stuff brought in from the old toolbox package cause problems on a system with no X11 present? (Heck, if they don't, then a single unified package would work just fine.) /etc/vmware-tools/xautostart.conf /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop /usr/bin/vmware-xdg-detect-de /usr/lib/open-vm-tools/plugins/vmusr/libdesktopEvents.so /usr/lib/open-vm-tools/plugins/vmusr/libdndcp.so /usr/lib/open-vm-tools/plugins/vmusr/libresolutionSet.so /usr/lib/open-vm-tools/plugins/vmusr/libunity.so The best 'shape' of that eventual solution as far as packages and their names, I'm not sure on. open-vm-tools for CLI // open-vm-tools-gui for GUI open-vm-tools for CLI // open-vm-toolbox for GUI open-vm-tools-cli for CLI // open-vm-tools for GUI open-vm-tools-cli for CLI // open-vm-tools-gui for GUI open-vm-tools-nox for CLI // open-vm-tools for GUI I'm really not sure what naming scheme would be the most Ubuntu- appropriate, but I'd personally have no complaint with any of those variants. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/604998 Title: open-vm-tools (CLI tools) recommends gui tools To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/604998/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs