[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-08-29 Thread Robstarusa
I've started a backport request under LP #1218638

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-08-29 Thread LaMont Jones
Fixed in 1:9.9.3.dfsg.P2-3

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

** Also affects: bind9 (Ubuntu Precise)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu Precise)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu Precise)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-07-26 Thread Seth Arnold
It might be possible to bring the feature to 12.04 LTS, through one of
two mechanisms:

The Stable Release Update process
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates is usually used to fix
high-impact bugs. I'd be prepared to ask the SRU team to include rate-
limiting DNS responses as such an issue.

Or, once the feature is in a newer Ubuntu release, you could ask the
Backports team to prepare a wholesale backport of the entirely new
version of bind9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports

Thanks

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-07-26 Thread Robstarusa
It looks like upstream is adding this.  Can we get this moved into an
LTS after it is out?  Should this still be marked "wishlist" since
upstream is taking care of it?

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/isc-adds-ddos-defense-module-to-
bind-software-1814775.htm

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-07-19 Thread Robstarusa
That does help, however I've already uninstalled the Ubuntu bind9
version & created my own from source + patch.

I think fixing the actual problem versus a firewall workaround is a
better solution, personally.

I understand that I'd more likely have had a fix if I reported it
upstream, but this isn't a new problem as far as my googling shows, & it
appears upstream hasn't done anything yet.

However, I appreciate your help & response.

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-07-18 Thread Seth Arnold
Indeed, this looks useful.

However, performing the rate limiting in the kernel using firewall rules
can be more efficient and not require any BIND patches.

There are three mechanisms I can think of for performing this rate
limiting today, without waiting for updates:

- Insert iptables hashlimit rules. Here is one suggested rule:
-p udp --dport 53 -m hashlimit --hashlimit-above 200/sec \
 --hashlimit-burst 500 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-name DNS-ABUSER \
 --hashlimit-htable-size 8192 --hashlimit-htable-max 32768 -j drop_log_dns_abuse
(The rule was suggested by joerg jungermann in another context at 
http://mailman.powerdns.com/pipermail/pdns-users/2012-September/009235.html )

- Use phreld to dynamically insert DROP rules for hosts that bypass
limits: http://www.digitalgenesis.com/software/phrel/manual/phreld.html
(Sadly, not packaged for Ubuntu.) I know this option is preferred by
some commercial DNS hosts.

- Use ufw limit to add some quick limits. Since this is intended first
and foremost to prevent OpenSSH brute-force connection attempts, the
default limits may be too low for applying to DNS. This might still be
appropriate for very small installations, however. Your mileage my vary.

I hope this helps. Thanks.

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[Bug 1202278] Re: bind9 has no rate limit option

2013-07-18 Thread Seth Arnold
** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: bind9 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

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