[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Milestone: vivid-updates => None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Tags added: systemd vivid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Milestone: ubuntu-15.04 = vivid-updates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
I also don't understand why this is marked Fix Released, upstream I only see systemd/centos support and no systemd/ubuntu support. I see code that assumes ubuntu == upstart. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/2ae93fe45df4b95bedf493adc07ee7049859fb2d also has some serious deficiencies, see Dimitri's comments. ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Status: Fix Committed = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Milestone: ubuntu-15.01 = ubuntu-15.04 ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Changed in: juju-core Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Tags added: hs-arm64 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Description changed: + [Status] + + The status of Juju and systemd need to be considered in three separate + scenarios: + + A: A system administrator running the Juju client. For example, managing + a deployment somewhere else from your laptop. + + B: Running within a deployment itself (the bootstrap node and all other + deployed nodes). This is the Juju that runs a production workload. + + C: Developing charms using the local provider. This is really a special + case combining A and B. + + The status of systemd and Juju in these scenarios is as follows: + + A: Not affected. The client does not integrate with any init system, so + works fine under both upstart and systemd. + + B: Affected (when deploying private Vivid charms). Juju will support + systemd from version 1.23 (yet to be released). Existing deployments are + not affected, since all existing Ubuntu releases run upstart. Deploying + onto Vivid is affected, since it will now run systemd, and will continue + to be affected after Vivid's release without further action. Workaround + for developers: arrange for deployed Vivid nodes to run upstart. + + C: Affected (on Vivid only), until scenario B is fixed. + + Schedule: + + The first beta of 1.23 is expected 2015-03-18 and will provide full + systemd support. It will be available from a devel PPA. 1.23 is expected + to be released the week of 2015-03-30. It will be available from the + standard Juju stable PPA and will be uploaded to Vivid. In time, Trusty + will be updated too, although this has not yet been scheduled. + + Archive status: + + Currently no plans to upload 1.23 betas to Vivid. 1.23 will be uploaded + once it is released. + + Until this time, dep8 tests are failing against juju-core as they test + scenario C, now in a systemd environment. + + [Original Description] + Ubuntu is currently working on switching its default init system from upstart to systemd; this has a direct impact on juju-core, which generates upstart configurations for the daemons that it runs across a deployment. The current target for switchover is the end of Jan/start of Feb, so it would be nice if we had a juju that supported this by then (at least in development). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Thanks Robie for the summary. For the record, if you want to continue running the DEP-8 tests in an upstart environment under vivid, you can do that at the top of your test: if [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then if [ ! -x /tmp/autopkgtest-reboot ]; then echo SKIP: testbed does not support reboot exit 0 fi if [ -n ${ADT_REBOOT_MARK:-} ]; then echo SKIP: Reboot with upstart still runs systemd; using init= ? exit 0 fi echo Installing upstart... apt-get install -y upstart echo Rebooting into upstart... /tmp/autopkgtest-reboot b1 fi (That's what I put into systemd-shim's tests, which also only run under upstart) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
We have 1.20.14 in Vivid at the moment, and dep8 tests are now failing. I believe this is because the systemd switch has happened, and it cannot find upstart. Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix this please? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix this please? As Juju has a newer versions allowed exception even for stables, that should equally apply to the current development series. So while I'm not officially in ~ubuntu-release, I'd say whichever one works is an acceptable answer? (Not sure whether I misunderstood the question) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
@Eric, Thanks for the comment. To confirm is this still on track for 1.23 and the Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) release? -thanks, Antonio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
It will also be worth looking into the impact of systemd on existing charms that get published for vivid. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
the last of the patches to add systemd support in juju (including on vivid) has landed. There are a couple of caveats we need to look into though: * vivid LXC containers on non-vivid hosts don't work correctly out of the box. This has an impact on local provider (I've been testing in a vivid KVM). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1347020 * vivid (and later) may be configured to boot with upstart (e.g. after an upgrade?). We are looking at adding a feature flag to support that use case (which I expect will be an uncommon one). ** Changed in: juju-core Status: In Progress = Fix Committed ** Changed in: juju-core Assignee: (unassigned) = Eric Snow (ericsnowcurrently) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Changed in: juju-core Milestone: 1.23 = 1.23-beta1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
We've landed a patch for systemd support in juju. We are currently working through a couple of minor bugs before calling it good. ** Changed in: juju-core Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Right now we (juju core) are scoping out the effort to add systemd support to juju in time for the feature freeze. We'll update here as we move forward. Note that, as Andrew said, we have some of the work done already (though not merged yet). It's likely the trickiest part, so the remainder of the work should be of the add-systemd-support-wherever-we-support- upstart variety. Also note that our upstart configs are dynamically generated. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Looking at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/ it looks very bad. Please use DBus api to talk to systemd. Or use golang-go-systemd-dev to operate against systemd. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Systemd support is currently under development, primarily to support CentOS: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
(I should have added: but will support Ubuntu, with a couple of minor adjustments) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
** Tags added: systemd-boot ** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.01 ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid) Importance: High Status: Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
Feature freeze isn't until Mid-February, so any new feature can be put into the vivid package without problems by then. Even after that this will certainly get a freeze exception as this is a release goal. But as this apparently blocks OpenStack deployment/testing (said James Page), we'd probably backport this before feature freeze once it lands in trunk. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid
We have frozen juju 1.22. We expect it to ship with vivid. This feature will need to be back-ported. How does Ubuntu feel about adding a feature to 1.22.1? If this is bad, then we will wait for 1.23 to be backported to w, v and t. ** Changed in: juju-core Milestone: None = 1.23 ** Changed in: juju-core Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: juju-core Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to juju-core in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1409639 Title: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1409639/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs