[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Changed in: cpu-checker Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 Title: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/qemu-kvm -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
This bug was fixed in the package qemu-kvm - 0.12.3-0ubuntu13 --- qemu-kvm (0.12.3-0ubuntu13) lucid; urgency=low * Rename the default debhelper files to qemu-kvm.*, makes the namespace a little more managable as we split this source package up into better logical binary packages - debian/postinst - debian/qemu-kvm.postinst - debian/doc - debian/qemu-common.doc - debian/links - debian/qemu-kvm.links - debian/install - debian/qemu-kvm.install - debian/upstart - debian/qemu-kvm.upstart * debian/qemu-common.install, debian/qemu-common.links, debian/control: - new binary package that contains the architecture independent and common files (bios roms, keymaps, documentation, and scripts) * debian/rules: - populate the binary-indep action to handle the qemu-common package - manually prune the keymaps from qemu-kvm, since qemu-common contains these now * debian/kvm-ok, debian/control: move the kvm-ok script over to the cpu-checker package, and recommend this package, LP: #429443 -- Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:18:13 -0600 ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Changed in: procps (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Also affects: cpu-checker Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: cpu-checker Status: New = Fix Committed ** Changed in: cpu-checker Assignee: (unassigned) = Dustin Kirkland (kirkland) ** Changed in: cpu-checker Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Tags added: patch -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
Changing the affected package to procps, as Kees has agreed to accept kvm-ok there. Attaching a debdiff that puts the utility in debian/kvm-ok for now, and installs it to /usr/bin/kvm-ok. ** Package changed: update-notifier (Ubuntu Lucid) = procps (Ubuntu Lucid) ** Changed in: procps (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: (unassigned) = Dustin Kirkland (kirkland) ** Patch added: 429443.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40543291/429443.diff -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: (unassigned) = Dustin Kirkland (kirkland) -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 = None ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 = None -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: I really don't see the point in being told on every single login whether or not my CPU has VT extensions? That's not how it would work. See /etc/update-motd.d/20-cpu-checker. The kvm bit would simply check if it appears you have kvm extensions but they're disabled in BIOS. -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 08:03:12AM -, Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: I really don't see the point in being told on every single login whether or not my CPU has VT extensions? That's not how it would work. See /etc/update-motd.d/20-cpu-checker. The kvm bit would simply check if it appears you have kvm extensions but they're disabled in BIOS. Didn't kvm-ok used to be a general check for whether your system had VT or not as well? Is that part of it gone or is that moving elsewhere? -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: Dave Walker (davewalker) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: Dave Walker (davewalker) = (unassigned) -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
kvm-ok used to be just a grep for vmx|svm of /proc/cpuinfo. Now, it performs a couple of additional checks. It will also check dmesg for a message about kvm being disabled in your bios, and look for /dev/kvm. The check for the bios message has been exceedingly useful to users, and we the maintainers trying to support users who's computer manufacturers arbitrarily disable kvm in their bios by default. Much of the documentation spread around the web simply says grep your cpuinfo for vmx|svm, but most of it neglects to say, oh, by the way, check your dmesg for a kvm disabled in bios message. This particular bug is really about moving /usr/bin/kvm-ok out of the qemu-kvm package and into some package the user will already have on their system when they're trying to decide if they can use kvm or not. The current mode is clearly suboptimal, which looks like: $ sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm $ kvm-ok || sudo apt-get purge qemu-kvm That's clearly silly. Whether a message ends up in MOTD, I care not. But I thought Kees' change set a precedent for giving friendly hints about cpu features which are disabled in BIOS. -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 02:48:40PM -, Dustin Kirkland wrote: kvm-ok used to be just a grep for vmx|svm of /proc/cpuinfo. I understand. That's why I didn't want to put it in the kvm package to begin with. The check for the bios message has been exceedingly useful to users, and we the maintainers trying to support users who's computer manufacturers arbitrarily disable kvm in their bios by default. I understand the usefulness of the information. This particular bug is really about moving /usr/bin/kvm-ok out of the qemu-kvm package and into some package the user will already have on their system when they're trying to decide if they can use kvm or not. Right. The current mode is clearly suboptimal, which looks like: $ sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm $ kvm-ok || sudo apt-get purge qemu-kvm That's clearly silly. No doubt. Again, that's why I didn't want it in the kvm package to begin with. Whether a message ends up in MOTD, I care not. But I thought Kees' change set a precedent for giving friendly hints about cpu features which are disabled in BIOS. Kees' script (IIUIC) is meant to tell users if they have important security features in their CPU, but for some reason have them turned off. It's something they're expected to act upon. Just like Hey, you've got security updates is something they're supposed to act upon, and when acted upon, the notice disappears. Yup, you still have VT support is only vaguely actionable and does not go away in response to any action you take. I think it makes much more sense in util-linux. -- Soren Hansen Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
I'm going to target this for Lucid beta1 for now, as I think this is totally doable with the approval from update-notifier peeps. ** Also affects: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Wishlist Assignee: Dave Walker (davewalker) Status: Triaged ** Also affects: update-notifier (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Wishlist Assignee: Dave Walker (davewalker) Status: Triaged ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
This is sensible. If too much detection stuff like this ends up in update-notifier, I suspect we can just create a new package called cpu- checker, which is the bzr tree I've current got the check-bios-nx code and test suite in. On another note, I would like to see kvm-ok improved somehow so that it is accurate after a system has been running for a while. Right now, if a system has been running a while and dmesg has scrolled off the top, or if the kvm module hasn't yet loaded, there's no feedback on if VT is disabled in the BIOS. -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
I really don't see the point in being told on every single login whether or not my CPU has VT extensions? -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 429443] Re: /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 18:33 +, Dustin Kirkland wrote: Daviey suggested util-linux, which looks reasonable to me. Adding a task for both packages. Assuming cjwatson is at least +0 on util-linux, let's remove it from qemu-kvm and add it to util-linux. Only if you do it upstream, please. Scott -- Scott James Remnant sc...@canonical.com -- /usr/bin/kvm-ok should be disassociated from kvm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/429443 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
