[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[James Page]

** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[pirlo]

btw tried to install printer with konica minolta bizhub 283 driver from this 
website:
http://download6.konicaminolta.eu/konmin/public/&&BEU&DE&sw&0&&&0&&0&&0
(Druckertreiber PCL6PCL6 driver (WHQL) for KONICA MINOLTA bizhub 
423/363/283/2231.1.2.0 2010-06-01)

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[pirlo]

Same problem here with Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 and samba 3.4.7 - 32 bit
driver works like charm, 64 bit driver gives the message with
0x00d8.

one year is a very very long time for a bug!

if you have hunderts of computers you don't really want to user lpt oder
ipp printing with local drivers

will this bug ever be fixed?
ist it fixed in 10.10 or 11.04?

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Herr Irrtum]

Ok then. Someone in the comments mentioned that there is a fix which is 
included in Ubuntu 10.04 and also available via PPA for ubuntu 9.10. Whatever 
made you write this, Gijs Molenaar , it is not fixed. It's still not fixed 
within samba if you look at the status of the bug over there at samba 
(https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6888). However I appreciate your 
actions (to find the upstream original bug description and even do the package 
making!!) - this should have helped a lot of people - but in this case 
unfortunately doesn't --> so please *before* you claim it's fixed - test it . 
Under the conditions which are described in the bug description. Even if the 
samba people say it is. In this case - I repeat - it is not.
Which brings me to a second note: 
Chuck Short  - almost immediately after I filed this bug (as a Samba bug) you 
enhanced it in order to be a Cups bug as well. But why? This confuses the devs, 
this doesn't help anyone. As I described and other people told: It *works* with 
windows clients (32 bit), it works with linux *clients* - heck - it even works 
with Windows 7 if you redirect LPT1 or create a direct IP connector. Which is 
not stable (for Windows specific reasons). But it works for a moment.
It is so overwhelming clear, that this is Samba in the first place. Why CUPS 
then?
If a Cups dev/packager comes and sees what is actually going on... he will turn 
his back, mumbling that this is something for the samba guys.
If a Samba developer comes in he will realize that this is filed under "Cups" - 
so he will say that in the first place the cups guys are responsible. 
And in the end there is the result: Deadlock.
That's why I wont change the hint that "a fix is released"for the "cups"-filed 
version . 
Please read carefully, what Crazydave is writing (I discussed some things with 
him behind the scenes) - he has very precise experiences with this bug and 
above my description he even focuses on automatic driver rollout mechanisms 
which work fine (!!) with Windows 32 Bit Clients - but not with windows 64bit 
clients.

What about SMB2 ? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block --> 
"Microsoft introduced SMB2 with Windows Vista in 2006."). I remember that samba 
had a hard time and needed more than half a year to make Vista 32 bit clients 
speak to printer shares. 
Maybe in 64bit space some parameters of the SMB2 implementation are different. 
This is something for upstream samba tough.

All in all - I am out. I have no time to do further things here. Which is 
because I do not depend on Windows anymore (I had a very new AMD GFX card back 
when I filed the bug, that's why I was on Windows7 with one of my PCs back then 
when I filed the bug).
Good luck to dave and the others figuring this out. 

Maybe someone should compare this to a different Linux (maybe rolling-release 
distros like Arch or Gentoo) which may have a more up to date package of samba 
(and well - cups). Even better: A fresh from SVN sources compiled samba - all 
this to compare things. Just to make sure first of all if this is Ubuntu 
related or upstream related. Right now it feels more upstream related for me.
Again: I do not have the time to check this out.

Now my ending sentence: Gijs - once more - it is great, what you did by
doing all that packaging with all the knowledge necessary collected from
the samba folx. Thanks a bunch and keep the spirit - just tell people
that you *think* that's it and tell them, they should test it to make
sure it really is.

Good luck,
Herr Irrtum!

** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Incomplete

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[crazydave]

I will describe my problem:

What I want to do: share CUPS printers with Windows 64Bit Clients (Win XP/2003 
and Win 7/2008). The clients should get the printer drivers from the CUPS 
server. First target is to share the PDF printer.
Installation on Lucid. CUPS Version 1.4.3-1ubuntu1; Samba Version: 
2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3

How the printer gets installed: Open explorer and go to \\printserver\
the right click on the PDF printer and click "connect".

With Windows 32bit clients the printer gets installed and printing a
test page works perfect.

With Windows 64bit clients there are different symptoms:
On Win XP/2003 64bit the printer gets installed. The files ( cups6.ini  
cupsps6.dll  cupsui6.dll  PDF.ppd  ps5ui.dll  pscript5.dll  pscript.hlp  
pscript.ntf PDF.ppd) show up in the c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3\ 
folder. But right click on the installed printer to enter the "printer 
settings" brings up "The 'PDF' printer driver is not installed on this 
computer. Some printer properties will not be accessible unless you install the 
printer driver. Do you want do install the driver now?" - click on "No" brings 
up the Printer Properties page but printing a test page is not possible!

On Win 7/2008 64bit clients when I try to right click and choose
"connect" It starts to copy some files and then I get the message
"Windows cannot connect the printer. 0x00d8". When I search for the
ppd file or cups files on this client - nothing shows up.

Attached you will find the samba.log from the connection of a Win 2008
64bit client.

I'm not sure what causes this problem. Please let me know if you need
more information.

** Attachment added: "log.win2k08_64bitclient"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50534681/log.win2k08_64bitclient

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[crazydave]

** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: samba
  
  1. Ubuntu release:
  
  #uname -a
  Linux maedchentank 2.6.31-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 09:55:13 UTC 
2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
  # lsb_release -rd
  Description:Ubuntu 9.10
  Release:9.10
  
  2. involved packages:
  
  ~# apt-cache policy cups
  cups:
-   Installiert: 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1
-   Kandidat: 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1
+   Installiert: 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1
+   Kandidat: 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1
  ...
  ~# apt-cache policy samba
  samba:
-   Installiert: 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.1
-   Kandidat: 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.1
+   Installiert: 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.1
+   Kandidat: 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.1
  ...
- 
  
  3. What should happen:
  Connecting to shared printers on my ubuntu 9.10 server from within windows 
vista64 and windows7 brings up the windows printer dialog - as is happened in 
ubuntu 9.04.
  
  4, What happens instead
  
  Connecting to shared printers on my ubuntu 9.10 server from within windows 
vista(64 Bit) and windows7 (64 Bit)  brings a "Druckerverbindung kann nicht 
hergestellt werden - 0x000d" on Windows (exact english translation not 
known - should be something like "unable to connect to printer - 0x000d". 
Windows isn't telling more. The Windows Support Entry in the web about this 
error number is compete nonsense.
  However Windows XP (32 Bit) clients connect without a problem.
  Note that exactly the same Vista (64 Bit) machine (even without any 
LSA-Manipulations within the registry (as it is still recommanded here and 
there)) did work with the same smb.conf on the same server with ubuntu 9.04 (it 
was updated to 9.10 - meaning it was not a fresh install).
  Typical folder shares on the server are no problem for vista and windows7.
  
  BTW: Trying to get a clean new smb file is not easy because of this
  dpkg-reconfigure samba crash
  
  # dpkg-reconfigure samba
-  * Stopping Samba daemons 
   [ OK ]
-[doing stuff within the nc gui until the "create 
/var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb?" Question and then...]
+  * Stopping Samba daemons 
   [ OK ]
+    [doing stuff within the nc gui until the "create 
/var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb?" Question and then...]
  sed: -e Ausdruck #1, Zeichen 143: Unbekannte Option für `s'
  
  However I am sure to have a clean smb.conf. The most interesting section
  is this (and I already tried to "open" it up as much as it may be
  helpful)
  
- 
  --
  load printers = yes
  
-printing = cups
-printcap name = cups
+    printing = cups
+    printcap name = cups
  
  [...]
  
  [printers]
-comment = All Printers
-browseable = no
-path = /var/spool/samba
-printable = yes
-guest ok = yes
-read only = yes
-create mask = 0700
+    comment = All Printers
+    browseable = no
+    path = /var/spool/samba
+    printable = yes
+    guest ok = yes
+    read only = yes
+    create mask = 0700
  #  inserted ny me
-use client driver = yes
+    use client driver = yes
  
  # Windows clients look for this share name as a source of downloadable
  # printer drivers
  
  # disabling or not disabling - the [print$] Section is of course not
  changig anything here
  
  # --
  # [print$]
  #   comment = Printer Drivers
  #   path = /var/lib/samba/printers
  #   browseable = yes
  #   read only = yes
  # #   guest ok = no
  # # changed by me
  # guest ok = yes
  # -
  
  [...]
  --
  
- Security levels is users. Password backend is tdbsam. 
+ Security levels is users. Password backend is tdbsam.
  Users trying to connect to the printers (2 printers - one usb and cups-pdf) 
are already connected to shared folders on the server successfully (so it is 
not a credentials problem from this side). They are also known to samba thanks 
to smbpasswd.
  
  On the cups side both printers are set to shared. So anything should
  just work like it does perfectly with Windows XP Clients (32Bit) within
  the same network or like unter Ubuntu 9.04 with the same configuration
  (also with vista64 Clients there).
  
- I've tried alot about this with no success. 
- I was surprised not to find a bug report about this, because, if you google 
about "karmic printer vista" you find a lot forum questions about this - and 
they all try a lot even unrelated things to get rid of this - but the issue 
remains unsolved. 
+ I've tried alot about this with no success.
+ I was surprised not to find a bug report about this, because, if you google 
about "karmic printer vista" you find a lot forum questions about this - and 
they all try a lot even unrelated things to get rid of this - but the issue 
remains unsolved.
  Like here: 
  
 

[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[crazydave]

It's not working for me in Lucid. What package version should work under
Lucid?!

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Herr Irrtum]

I decided to change the status to "Fix Released". Sorry for not reacting
for a  long time - even after the fix was released, I wasn't aware that
it's on *me* to close the bug  (it it's on me that is).If there is
another way to "close" this bug tell me - right now I see no other
option.


** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Gijs Molenaar]

@Scott:
I was in the impression I can't do that, since I don't 'own' this bug

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Scott Moser]

@Gijs,
  If this bug is fix-released, please mark it as such.

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Gijs Molenaar]

This bug is solved in Lucid. If you use karmic you can use these
packages:

https://launchpad.net/~gijzelaar/+archive/samba-karmic

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[crazydave]

Very frustrating for me... I know figured out how to integrate the Cups
Printer in our Active Directory and now the x64 machines are not working
- and no new package for Ubuntu :-/ (not in lucid-backports nor in
maverick)

Someone has info when Ubuntu will release newer packages?!

Cheers,
David

** Also affects: samba (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 482836] Re: Samba shared printers not accessible under Vista and Windows7

[Chuck Short]

** Package changed: samba (Ubuntu) => cups (Ubuntu)

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