[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Bug trackers are for information related to bugs. If you're unable to contribute something meaningful - go whine someplace else: there're forums, twitter, social networks for that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
I'm not a systemd hater Don't flatter yourself. Since when exactly inability of some users to run sudo apt install ntpdate equals to systemd hegemony? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
@god, be nice, apply logic and be productive or go home. It appears you have some deficiency to understand what I wrote and didn't write. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
The other bug was closed and now it's just systemd-timesyncd in minimal. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Not a good development in my opinion since it ties everyone more and more firmly to the systemd hegemony. I'm not a systemd hater but I don't think this is a good direction. Nonetheless, I guess it's better than what we currently have which is unmaintained code. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Yes, I thought it would be more clear cause I can't change the title of this bug. Once the patch is applied and updated meta-packages pushed both bugs could be safely closed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
@god that was what was done according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVibT0Lm0I, and I see you opened a new bug for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu- meta/+bug/1451247 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
It would be much better to replace it with systemd-timesyncd calls and drop ntpdate dependency altogether. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
@aquina: ntpd doesn't have to be shipped with a configuration that will launch it as a daemon. It can easily be used to do ntpdate's job without daemonizing. Also, the ntpd binary is actually only around 2/3 the size of the ntpdate binary, so I think you may be backwards on which one is bloated. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
** Changed in: ntp (Debian) Status: Unknown = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Quote by r0lf: The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny anymore when compared to NTPd. Sorry r0lf, but that's laughable. Do you really want people to run a fully featured (your wording: vulnerable) NTP daemon just to do s.th. like this (ntpdate -u HOSTNAME /var/log/messages 21) one a day within a /etc/cron.hourly/ntp? Don't get me wrong -- I agree with you on the upstream-part of your statement, but I disagree when it comes to bloat systems unnecessarily. Once OS used to be simple, only containing things which their operators needed. Why force them into running daemons the don't really have demand for? I think ntpd -qg is the only option, although far from perfect. https://twitter.com/TRONDELTA/status/546138511284658177 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.02 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate has some further information -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
this is not a bug in ntp (unless one were to advocate to replace the ntpdate command with a wrapper calling ntp which I believe no one is doing). Closing the ntp task. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
I think going forward with this ticket instead of the much older bug 61619 is preferable. ntpdate has been deprecated upstream for a long time as previously pointed out. The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny anymore when compared to ntpd. Setting milestone for vivid, hoping that it is not too late, yet. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.02 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Adding ubuntu-meta because ntpdate lists it as a dependency, when ntpd should be allowed as an alternative. ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
Oops, I meant it the other way around: ubuntu-minimal lists ntpdate as a dependency, such that ubuntu-minimal is uninstalled if you try to replace ntpdate with ntpd. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 Title: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/583994/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
See also bug 322518. I think we want to get rid of ntpdate, and use ntpd everywhere, which would be more consistent. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #514318 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514318 ** Also affects: ntp via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514318 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'
** Changed in: ntp Status: Unknown = New -- Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583994 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs