[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-07-17 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
This is not just a wishlist. The package as it is now breaks expected behaviour 
(the one you get after 15 years of using /etc/init.d style startup scripts)
and is not properly documented in the obvious places (README.Debian, for 
example), with only a mention of 
this new behaviour buried in changelog.Debian.gz.

Furthermore, and most importantly, the daemon behaves differently if you
start it with old style init scripts, or with new style upstart commands:

# cat /etc/default/ssh | grep -v '#'
SSHD_OPTS='-p 11210'
SSHD_OOM_ADJUST=-17
# service ssh start
ssh start/running, process 23950
# lsof -n | grep LISTEN | grep ssh
sshd  23950   root3u IPv4   24579273  0t0
TCP  *:ssh (LISTEN)
sshd  23950   root4u IPv6   24579275  0t0
TCP  *:ssh (LISTEN)
# service ssh stop
ssh stop/waiting
# /etc/init.d/ssh start
 * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd [ OK ] 
# lsof -n | grep LISTEN | grep ssh
sshd  23983   root3u IPv4   24589208  0t0
TCP  *:11210 (LISTEN)
sshd  23983   root4u IPv6   24589210  0t0
TCP   *:11210 (LISTEN)

This means that someone changing the configuration and restarting the daemon 
the old way will not find the daemon listening
on the inteded port after a reboot. 

The old style startup script should be modified to output a message
urging the user to change his habit to upstart commands. 

The /etc/default/ssh file should be modified to include a prominent warning
that the file itself is deprecated and not used by upstart anymore.

The package as it is now may cause a machine to become unreachable if an 
external firewall is configured to allow a certain non-standard port, while
the daemon starts listening on 22 because /etc/default/ssh is not used anymore.

Pf

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-07-17 Thread Simon
Pierfrancesco Caci, I'm agree with you but if the other services in
Ubuntu still using the old style init scripts, why only ssh has
changed to new style? and, more important, why it conserves the old init
script?

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-07-17 Thread Simon
Colin Watson, if Upstart can't yet manage jobs in chroots, why you has
changed the behaviour now? Why don't to wait to Upstart is complete?

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-07-17 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
Colin, I did more tests and here's another issue:

sshd is stopped, and the 2 config files have these contents:

# grep -v '#' /etc/default/ssh
SSHD_OPTS='-p 12345'
SSHD_OOM_ADJUST=-17

 # tail -1 /etc/init/ssh.conf
exec /usr/sbin/sshd -p 11210

# service ssh start
ssh start/running, process 30569

# ps ax | grep sshd
30569 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 11210

# /etc/init.d/ssh start
 * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
   [ OK ]

# ps ax | grep sshd
30569 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 11210

so far, this is the expected behaviour.  Now I stop again the daemon,
and start it again, but this time with the old style init script first

# /etc/init.d/ssh start
 * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
   [ OK ] 

# ps ax | grep sshd
31604 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 12345

# service ssh start
ssh start/running, process 31614

# ps ax | grep sshd
31604 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 12345
31614 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 11210

Result: 2 daemons running, on different ports.

Also, the init script is no longer able to stop the daemon it started:

# service ssh stop
ssh stop/waiting

# ps ax | grep sshd
31604 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 12345

# /etc/init.d/ssh stop
 * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
   [ OK ] 

# ps ax | grep sshd
31604 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -p 12345


Pf

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


Re: [Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-07-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:22:34PM -, Simon wrote:
 Colin Watson, if Upstart can't yet manage jobs in chroots, why you has
 changed the behaviour now? Why don't to wait to Upstart is complete?

Because other functionality written as Upstart jobs depends on ssh.

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-06-07 Thread Chuck Short
In the /etc/init/ssh.conf:

# if you used to set SSHD_OPTS in /etc/default/ssh, you can change the
# 'exec' line here instead


** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-06-07 Thread Simon
Wishlist!!? This a bug!!

Why the openssh-server package installs the /etc/default/ssh file then?
Moreover, in the /etc/default/ssh file doesn't explain nothing about this.
I was used to modify the /etc/default/ssh file not the /etc/init/ssh.conf
I lost many hours trying to start my ssh server in IPv4 mode because you have 
changed the default behavior!! :-(

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


Re: [Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
/etc/default/ssh (and, for that matter, /etc/init.d/ssh) is at this
point only provided because Upstart can't yet manage jobs in chroots.
When it can, I expect that these will be removed.

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs


[Bug 590275] Re: ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file

2010-06-05 Thread Simon
apport information

** Tags added: apport-collected

** Description changed:

  I have defined, in /etc/default/ssh file, the next option:
  SSHD_OPTS=-4
  
- But when I restart SSH daemon: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart,  SSH
- continues ignoring this option.
+ But when I restart SSH daemon: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart,  SSH continues 
ignoring this option.
+ --- 
+ Architecture: i386
+ DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
+ Package: openssh-server 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu3
+ PackageArchitecture: i386
+ ProcEnviron:
+  PATH=(custom, user)
+  LANG=es_ES.utf8
+  SHELL=/bin/bash
+ ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.36-generic-pae 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
+ Tags: lucid
+ Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae i686
+ UserGroups: adm admin dip fax floppy fuse lpadmin netdev plugdev simon users

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/49750002/Dependencies.txt

-- 
ssh init script doesn't use the /etc/default/ssh file
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590275
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Server Team, which is subscribed to openssh in ubuntu.

-- 
Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs