Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Adam Sommer
Can you check /var/log/syslog for slapd related errors.


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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-07-01 Thread Thag
Pin it back to Jaunty...groan.

Package: slapd
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: ldap-utils
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: libldap-2.4-2
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

-Bruce


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:35 PM, trader...@yahoo.co.uk trader...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:

 Trying to get LDAP working on Ubuntu is my worst linux experience yet.
 Still can't do it. Every tutorial a different, incomprehensible error
 code. Hours and hours wasted. Someone needs to sort this can of worms
 out.

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-05-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 15:03:46 -, Adam Sommer wrote:
 The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
 for Karmic.  

I noticed that the Lucid version of the Ubuntu Server Guide is now
available on the web site:

  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

Nathan

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread Adam Sommer
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, atom88 adam.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
 This documentation is still outdated when it comes to installing it.  The
 script does NOT request a password still?

 Any updates as to when this document might be updated?




The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
for Karmic.  After Lucid is released a SRU for the Karmic serverguide will
probably be done.  So the answer to your question is they should be updated
in the near future.

Thanks.

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-02-22 Thread Adrian Custer
Yes,

the current situation sucks. Unfortunately, it cannot all be laid at the
feet of Ubuntu. Like you, I spent a good week in a maze of twisty
passages where nothing worked. Then, painfully, I emerged from that mess
over a few weeks to get a working system.

The core issue is that LDAP has moved on while most of the available
documentation has not. Almost all the search accessible documentation is
based on the venerable 'slapd.conf' but OpenLDAP has moved to an
embedded Db. So, like an anthropologist, one has to sift through the
docs and try to figure out what is still relevant and what no longer
works. It's a hard slog. The #openldap irc channels sometimes helps.

Then, there's Ubuntu which silently transitioned from the older system
to the newer one without really considering the consequences for the
newbies like me who were getting their first dose of LDAP in the middle
of the transition. Ubuntu doesn't have infinite resources and made the
code transition without having the documenters who could at least put up
the flags warning that 'here be monsters'. Fixing it though, requires a
good documentation writer who will take on the task of writing a really
decent chapter. In itself, that's a couple of weeks of work.
Unfortunately, the cost of figuring things out takes so much time that
there's none left to 'volunteer' to fix the docs. (And my Gnumeric
manual is ever waiting for my spare documenter cycles.) So it never gets
fixed---such goes life in the collaborosphere.

So, good luck to you with your next distribution. You now also know that
newer LDAPs are working differently from the way things used to work so
you have a leg up when installing that.

all the best,
--adrian

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 01:36 +, murray wrote:
 I am sick of this.
 
 I have spent the last 4 days upgrading, installing, uninstalling trying
 really hard to get OpenLDAP to work on Ubuntu but I am just now giving
 up.
 
 For those who care to listen there are some reasons:
 
 1. I originally had it working on Edgy but when I went to test some
 stuff on Friday it was no longer working.  Plus I thought it was
 probably time for an update...
 
 2. The update had some moments but I eventually arrived at Karmic but
 along the way my slapd.conf wouldn't upgrade.
 
 3. No worries, I'll remove and install the package again.  Really really
 bad decision.
 
 4. The installation wouldn't work because the remove wouldn't delete the
 slapd.conf.  The remove was failing as was the install. I eventually
 deleted the slapd.conf manually so the remove and install would then
 work.  I was surprised that a new slapd.conf was never created.
 
 5. The configuration script asks just 3 questions when it clearly should
 be asking a whole lot more.  Nobody seems to know why it's not asking
 more but they think the documentation should be updated to reflect that
 the configuration will only ask 3 questions.  Duh!
 
 6. More googling and I found a step by step to getting the ldap server
 working.  Well, at least there were steps but I couldn't get them to
 work.  I needed some Berkeley database which I couldn't find anywhere,
 and I looked for other packages that utilised this bdb and tried
 installing them - I don't know if the database arrived or not but the
 LDAP script still failed with some error about the database, I think it
 was error (80) - really cool messages.  So my ldap server is like a
 beached whale without this database I thought that was what pre-
 requisites were for
 
 7. None of the ldapadd scripts worked and now the problems are just
 adding up...
 
 Wouldn't it be nice to have a piece of software that would load, provide
 some configuration options and then you could use a tool like
 LDAPExplorerTool2  to do the loading and searching functions.
 
 I'm a developer and my application operates as an LDAP client - I don't
 want to learn all of the intricacies of the LDAP server in order to test
 my application.  I want just the basics operating so I can test my app
 with a couple of use cases.
 
 I'm now completely turned off Ubuntu and will be heading off to another
 Linux derivative.
 
 Good bye.
 Murray


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