Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Nick Fellows  wrote:

> I would also like to see other types of devices included
> such as things like this ...
>
> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProKeysSono88.html
>
> or midi control surfaces.
>
> I really think this is a good idea and I see no reason not to add
categories to the hardware list.


> that sort of thing?
>
> On another note - Rosegarden includes patches for instruments such as
> the RM1x (I submitted the original patch for this instrument)
> It would be useful if this kind of thing was included too
>

Im not sure how this could work, but maybe its a good idea. Maybe let this
idea lie on the list a little longer and see if someone has a good thought
on how to do this. One way could be linking to a PPA with such items in it,
or something of a similar nature?

>
> Cheers
>
> Nick ...
>

Jussi

>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jussi Schultink 
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ricardo Lameiro <
> ricardolame...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.
> >>
> >> Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for
> edirol
> >> audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced
> mode
> >> (i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel)
> and i
> >> use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it
> works.
> >> So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
> >> solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update
> the
> >> hardware list at ubuntu.
> >
> > Yes, it is under populated, but why should we then make a new list?
> > this is on a wiki, we can edit it and make it better, lets use the
> resource,
> > add links to our ubuntu studio pages to it and generally make it better.
> >
> >>
> >> I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting
> >> audio has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
> >> complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts
> its
> >> hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
> >> etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.
> >>
> > I dont think its necessary to make something new. lets engage with
> whoever
> > is maintaining the current pages, (ubuntu docs team?) or if unmaintained,
> > lets just whack them into shape. As I said before, its a wiki, we can all
> > edit it.
> > Cheers,
> > Jussi.
> >
> >> 2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I
> use
>  it for
>  writing / composing music.
> 
>  I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
>  provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.
> 
>  I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
>  hardware compatibility list .
>  It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
>  studio equipment.
> >>>
> >>> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense
> >>> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific
> sections
> >>> for audio hardware.
> >>> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.
> 
> 
> 
>  Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
>  studio setup as there are still a
>  manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
>  standards.
> 
>  Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?
> 
>  What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?
> 
>  Kind Regards
> 
>  Nick ...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jussi.
> 
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Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Scott Lavender
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Nick Fellows  wrote:

> I would also like to see other types of devices included
> such as things like this ...
>
> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProKeysSono88.html
>
> or midi control surfaces.
>
> that sort of thing?
>
> On another note - Rosegarden includes patches for instruments such as
> the RM1x (I submitted the original patch for this instrument)
> It would be useful if this kind of thing was included too
>
> Cheers
>
> Nick ...
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jussi Schultink 
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ricardo Lameiro <
> ricardolame...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.
> >>
> >> Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for
> edirol
> >> audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced
> mode
> >> (i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel)
> and i
> >> use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it
> works.
> >> So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
> >> solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update
> the
> >> hardware list at ubuntu.
> >
> > Yes, it is under populated, but why should we then make a new list?
> > this is on a wiki, we can edit it and make it better, lets use the
> resource,
> > add links to our ubuntu studio pages to it and generally make it better.
> >
> >>
> >> I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting
> >> audio has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
> >> complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts
> its
> >> hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
> >> etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.
> >>
> > I dont think its necessary to make something new. lets engage with
> whoever
> > is maintaining the current pages, (ubuntu docs team?) or if unmaintained,
> > lets just whack them into shape. As I said before, its a wiki, we can all
> > edit it.
> > Cheers,
> > Jussi.
> >
> >> 2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I
> use
>  it for
>  writing / composing music.
> 
>  I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
>  provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.
> 
>  I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
>  hardware compatibility list .
>  It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
>  studio equipment.
> >>>
> >>> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense
> >>> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific
> sections
> >>> for audio hardware.
> >>> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.
> 
> 
> 
>  Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
>  studio setup as there are still a
>  manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
>  standards.
> 
>  Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?
> 
>  What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?
> 
>  Kind Regards
> 
>  Nick ...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jussi.
> 
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Ricardo/Nick,

Has either of you edited the Ubuntu Studio wiki to include the link to the
hardware list?

Jussi's point still stands, _anyone_ (including you) can edit it and add
it.  If everyone who had an idea took the time to edit the wiki, even a very
small minor edit like this one, we would have a vastly superior wiki.

Regards,
Sco

Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Nick Fellows
I would also like to see other types of devices included
such as things like this ...

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProKeysSono88.html

or midi control surfaces.

that sort of thing?

On another note - Rosegarden includes patches for instruments such as
the RM1x (I submitted the original patch for this instrument)
It would be useful if this kind of thing was included too

Cheers

Nick ...


On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jussi Schultink  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ricardo Lameiro 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.
>>
>> Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for edirol
>> audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced mode
>> (i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel) and i
>> use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it works.
>> So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
>> solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update the
>> hardware list at ubuntu.
>
> Yes, it is under populated, but why should we then make a new list?
> this is on a wiki, we can edit it and make it better, lets use the resource,
> add links to our ubuntu studio pages to it and generally make it better.
>
>>
>> I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting
>> audio has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
>> complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts its
>> hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
>> etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.
>>
> I dont think its necessary to make something new. lets engage with whoever
> is maintaining the current pages, (ubuntu docs team?) or if unmaintained,
> lets just whack them into shape. As I said before, its a wiki, we can all
> edit it.
> Cheers,
> Jussi.
>
>> 2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows 
>>> wrote:

 Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use
 it for
 writing / composing music.

 I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
 provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.

 I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
 hardware compatibility list .
 It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
 studio equipment.
>>>
>>> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense
>>> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific sections
>>> for audio hardware.
>>> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.



 Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
 studio setup as there are still a
 manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
 standards.

 Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?

 What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?

 Kind Regards

 Nick ...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Jussi.

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Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
yea, I agree with you, but i think that it is a real need to have , at
least, a link in the ubuntustudio page.
As you can see I already added the 2 cards I spoke about.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsRoland

Maybe, we should try to make a pro listing maybe with computer configs
ans hardware to the lowest latency etc... for now maybe, we should edit and
update this hardware list.
my devices are already there :D

2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 

> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ricardo Lameiro 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.
>>
>> Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for
>> edirol audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced
>> mode (i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel)
>> and i use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it
>> works. So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
>> solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update the
>> hardware list at ubuntu.
>>
>
> Yes, it is under populated, but why should we then make a new list?
>
> this is on a wiki, we can edit it and make it better, lets use the
> resource, add links to our ubuntu studio pages to it and generally make it
> better.
>
>
>> I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting
>> audio has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
>> complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts its
>> hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
>> etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.
>>
>> I dont think its necessary to make something new. lets engage with whoever
> is maintaining the current pages, (ubuntu docs team?) or if unmaintained,
> lets just whack them into shape. As I said before, its a wiki, we can all
> edit it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jussi.
>
>
> 2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows wrote:
>>>
 Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use
 it for
 writing / composing music.

 I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
 provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.

 I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
 hardware compatibility list .
 It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
 studio equipment.

>>> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense (
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific
>>> sections for audio hardware.
>>>
>>> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.
>>>

>>>
>>> Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
 studio setup as there are still a
 manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
 standards.

 Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?

 What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?

 Kind Regards

 Nick ...

>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Jussi.
>>>

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Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi there,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:

> Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.
>
> Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for
> edirol audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced
> mode (i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel)
> and i use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it
> works. So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
> solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update the
> hardware list at ubuntu.
>

Yes, it is under populated, but why should we then make a new list?

this is on a wiki, we can edit it and make it better, lets use the resource,
add links to our ubuntu studio pages to it and generally make it better.


> I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting
> audio has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
> complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts its
> hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
> etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.
>
> I dont think its necessary to make something new. lets engage with whoever
is maintaining the current pages, (ubuntu docs team?) or if unmaintained,
lets just whack them into shape. As I said before, its a wiki, we can all
edit it.

Cheers,

Jussi.


2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 
>
> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows wrote:
>>
>>> Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use
>>> it for
>>> writing / composing music.
>>>
>>> I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
>>> provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.
>>>
>>> I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
>>> hardware compatibility list .
>>> It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
>>> studio equipment.
>>>
>> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific sections
>> for audio hardware.
>>
>> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.
>>
>>>
>>
>> Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
>>> studio setup as there are still a
>>> manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
>>> standards.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?
>>>
>>> What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Nick ...
>>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jussi.
>>
>>>
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Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
Sorry, but i think that nick had a great Idea.

Jussi, we should not duplicate, but better make a specialized one.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport In here, I just searched for edirol
audio boards and only are there 2. the ua-4fx now works with advanced mode
(i myself tested the patch before going to the alsa drivers at kernel) and i
use an FA-101 (firewire device) that uses FFADO drivers + JACK and it works.
So that list is outdated and is not aimed at PRO hardware or specific
solutions. One of the 2, either we make our own list or we try to update the
hardware list at ubuntu.
I think we should make one in the ubuntu webpage, so if anyone wanting audio
has a link at the ubuntustudio webpage and follow it. the 2 can be
complementing pages. Maybe our list could be a test case. Each one puts its
hardware and some caracteristics. (jack,also support, latency, mixer,
etc...) I will contribute with my hardware.

2010/2/4 Jussi Schultink 

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use it
>> for
>> writing / composing music.
>>
>> I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
>> provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.
>>
>> I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
>> hardware compatibility list .
>> It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
>> studio equipment.
>>
> This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific sections
> for audio hardware.
>
> I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.
>
>>
>
> Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
>> studio setup as there are still a
>> manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
>> standards.
>>
>> Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?
>>
>> What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Nick ...
>>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jussi.
>
>>
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Re: Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Nick Fellows  wrote:

> Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use it
> for
> writing / composing music.
>
> I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
> provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.
>
> I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
> hardware compatibility list .
> It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
> studio equipment.
>
This kind of List already exists in a generic ubuntu sense (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport), and there are specific sections
for audio hardware.

I don't think we want to duplicate this, IMHO.

>

Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
> studio setup as there are still a
> manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
> standards.
>
> Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?
>
> What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Nick ...
>

Cheers

Jussi.

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Hardware List

2010-02-04 Thread Nick Fellows
Ubuntu Studio is a great platform for Audio and Multimedia tasks, I use it for
writing / composing music.

I've been using Linux for quite some time and welcome the distro as it
provides a good consolidated platform for my needs.

I have a suggestion  - Maybe the Ubuntu Studio website could house a
hardware compatibility list .
It would be great if it could focus on Audio hardware and include
studio equipment.

Audio hardware is difficult to select when building a linux based
studio setup as there are still a
manufacturers out there not providing drivers or adhering to USB Audio
standards.

Perhaps this could be made possible by community contributions?

What do people think about this as an idea for discussion ?

Kind Regards

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Re: Jack in Ubuntu Studio

2010-02-04 Thread Marc R.J. Brevoort
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Eric Hedekar wrote:

> The problem is a bureaucratic one at this stage,
> because Jack is in the Universe repositories of Ubuntu,
> applications in the Main repositories (Pulse Audio for
> example) can't be built against it so Pulse Audio isn't
> compiled with Jack support in the repositories.

I'd like to make you aware that there's a third possibility.

"Can't be built against it" is relative- it is technically
possible (although not common practice) to work around this.

HD24tools for example has JACK support built-in (for Linux
as well as MacOSX/Windows), but doesn't require JACK to be
available; it is a soft dependency. This is vital for
platforms whose users don't usually have JACK available.

Without JACK available, HD24tools will try portaudio.
With Jack and portaudio both unavailable, there simply
will be no sound.

This is accomplished by letting the application manually
load libraries in runtime, rather than statically linking
them in, or letting the compiler generate code to load the
dynamic libraries on program startup.

I suppose it would be possible to tweak Pulse Audio to
have the same capabilities, but it's really up to 
the author(s) of Pulse Audio to make such a decision.
I'll gladly provide the JACK wrapper code that allows
this.

In any case, I thought I'd make you aware of this
possibility. As it allows JACK support to be built-in
without it being a hard dependency, it could solve the
problem posed by the original poster.

Best,
Marc

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Low latency kernel in Lucid

2010-02-04 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi all, I received the following from Alessio regarding the Low latency
kernel. Please test and write to the kernel team so we can have this in
lucid and make ubuntu studio better!


-
I would like to remind you how large the advantages are to have a
-lowlatency kernel flavour.

Providing a lowlatency kernel allows us to have a kernel that is _very_
stable (like -generic because it is the same code without modifications and
only with a different configuration) but with very good performance
out of the box.
Moreover, to have it in the form of a kernel flavour means that it keeps up to
date with the -generic kernel without our intervention.
In this way we can avoid recomending kernel-rt to most of our users thus
avoid
it's bugs and its continual trailing version of the generic kernel.


What you can do for help?

1) Test the kernel ( http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~abogani/ ) and write an email
to kernel-t...@lists.ubuntu.com
with your comments (I hope that they are enthusiastic) (the packages will
work on both karmic and lucid, however closed source graphics drivers will
not be available)
2) Write to email to the above requesting this kernel flavour
3) Write directly to Tim Gardner endorsing it


In short we could also use it as default kernel!

P.s.
If you need of some background:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-January/008385.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-January/008570.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-February/008587.html
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Re: Jack in Ubuntu Studio

2010-02-04 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt  wrote:

> Thanks for your quick response.
> So will lucid have PulseAudio with Jack support?
>

Nobody knows.  But we're working toward that goal.
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Re: Jack in Ubuntu Studio

2010-02-04 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Thanks for your quick response.
So will lucid have PulseAudio with Jack support?

2010/2/4 Eric Hedekar :
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi there!
>>
>> We are using Ubuntu in church for recordings and sometimes to display
>> a video or just play some audio.
>>
>> Everything works great, when you do not have Jack started. When jack
>> is started all applications which do not support jack can not play any
>> sound. This is e.g. Rhythmbox and Totem.
>> I've seen some tutorials where you could preconfigure PulseAudio to
>> use jack by default. But this was quite difficult and required many
>> steps to do it and I didn't want to do it because I wasn't sure if
>> anything would work after it.
>>
>> So here's my question: Ubuntu Studio is designed for professionals,
>> can't you configure it to use Jack by default? Jack could be started
>> when booting and PulseAudio would play everything over Jack.
>> If this isn't possible, could you just provide an easy way to do this?
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Samuel
>>
>
> The problem is a bureaucratic one at this stage, because Jack is in the
> Universe repositories of Ubuntu, applications in the Main repositories
> (Pulse Audio for example) can't be built against it so Pulse Audio isn't
> compiled with Jack support in the repositories.  The Ubuntu Studio team is
> actively working to get Jack into Main right now as a fix for this, but it's
> not there yet (we're on our way though).
>
> For now, I have seen some posts on ubuntuforums.org regarding PPA
> repositories that include Pulse Audio built with jack support.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> -Eric Hedekar
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Re: Jack in Ubuntu Studio

2010-02-04 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt  wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> We are using Ubuntu in church for recordings and sometimes to display
> a video or just play some audio.
>
> Everything works great, when you do not have Jack started. When jack
> is started all applications which do not support jack can not play any
> sound. This is e.g. Rhythmbox and Totem.
> I've seen some tutorials where you could preconfigure PulseAudio to
> use jack by default. But this was quite difficult and required many
> steps to do it and I didn't want to do it because I wasn't sure if
> anything would work after it.
>
> So here's my question: Ubuntu Studio is designed for professionals,
> can't you configure it to use Jack by default? Jack could be started
> when booting and PulseAudio would play everything over Jack.
> If this isn't possible, could you just provide an easy way to do this?
>
> Greetings,
> Samuel
>
>
The problem is a bureaucratic one at this stage, because Jack is in the
Universe repositories of Ubuntu, applications in the Main repositories
(Pulse Audio for example) can't be built against it so Pulse Audio isn't
compiled with Jack support in the repositories.  The Ubuntu Studio team is
actively working to get Jack into Main right now as a fix for this, but it's
not there yet (we're on our way though).

For now, I have seen some posts on ubuntuforums.org regarding PPA
repositories that include Pulse Audio built with jack support.

Hope that helps.

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Jack in Ubuntu Studio

2010-02-04 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi there!

We are using Ubuntu in church for recordings and sometimes to display
a video or just play some audio.

Everything works great, when you do not have Jack started. When jack
is started all applications which do not support jack can not play any
sound. This is e.g. Rhythmbox and Totem.
I've seen some tutorials where you could preconfigure PulseAudio to
use jack by default. But this was quite difficult and required many
steps to do it and I didn't want to do it because I wasn't sure if
anything would work after it.

So here's my question: Ubuntu Studio is designed for professionals,
can't you configure it to use Jack by default? Jack could be started
when booting and PulseAudio would play everything over Jack.
If this isn't possible, could you just provide an easy way to do this?

Greetings,
Samuel

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