Re: Short version: Possible UI cairo-dock/Unity/compiz
If Ubuntustudio goes to XFCE, it should be no harder to install GNOME3, Unity, and cairo-dock in 11.10 or 12.04 than it was to install XFCE in ubuntustudio-hardy, as I in fact did for a slow 500MHZ web-and-audio editing machine. By 11.10, certainly by 12.04, they should all be in the Ubuntu repos and not in PPA. If nobody else mantains the Ubuntustudio theme for GNOME 2 and for GNOME 3, I will locally keep it working myself, porting over any changes from the XFCE (or whatever) version that suit my fancy and hopefully finding a place to publish the result. I've yet to build debs, though at various time I've had to compile things like audacity or even kdenlive from source. Most of my own code is shell, modded images, plymouth script code, modded schemas, that sort of thing. I've edited C source when Audacity had that compressor bug a few years back and I had to set my compressor settings as the default. Wayland could get interesting, could be some fancy session management if Unity uses it, GNOME shell does not, XFCE does not, and you want to toggle between them. Again, I will keep the whole works installed and make it work somehow. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Short version: Possible UI cairo-dock/Unity/compiz
i would like to see a screenshot... you could use imagebin... try and come to #ubuntustudio-devel , we are in the beginnings of moving forward to XFCE, so now is the time to actively share you findings... and thanks for working on this... even if we go with XFCE, we will need things like this for folks to use unity, and having them up front and documented and well supported would be great... On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Luke Kuhn wrote: > A longer version of this with screenshots was too big for the list, so > here's the short of it: > > Here's my suggestion for the next UI, I am using a version of it right now. > > Cairo-dock with main menu button on the left, icon for menus ubuntustudio > button. This is > how I got back the full Ubuntustudio menus that are lost in both > gnome-shell and Unity. > > Compiz/Unity, compiz outperforms Mutter and is more configurable > > Apply my bugfix in ubuntustudio-look to get white text in Unity: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-look/+bug/741331 > > Port ubuntustudio theme to include gtk3, I am using a rough version but > have > gtk2 and gtk 3 apps looking almost alike. > > When GNOME 3's version of nautilus is brought in, set it to manage the > desktop and draw icons, will > work essentially the same as the previous nautilus. I am using it now, > along with GNOME3 versions > of everything I use for which they are available except GDM and the network > manager. I can run > Unity or gnome-shell with almost identical function and nearly the same > appearance. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > -- MH http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ http://wnclug.ourproject.org/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Short version: Possible UI cairo-dock/Unity/compiz
A longer version of this with screenshots was too big for the list, so here's the short of it: Here's my suggestion for the next UI, I am using a version of it right now. Cairo-dock with main menu button on the left, icon for menus ubuntustudio button. This ishow I got back the full Ubuntustudio menus that are lost in both gnome-shell and Unity. Compiz/Unity, compiz outperforms Mutter and is more configurable Apply my bugfix in ubuntustudio-look to get white text in Unity: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-look/+bug/741331 Port ubuntustudio theme to include gtk3, I am using a rough version but have gtk2 and gtk 3 apps looking almost alike. When GNOME 3's version of nautilus is brought in, set it to manage the desktop and draw icons, will work essentially the same as the previous nautilus. I am using it now, along with GNOME3 versions of everything I use for which they are available except GDM and the network manager. I can run Unity or gnome-shell with almost identical function and nearly the same appearance. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: US website theme RFC & request for screenshots
Howdy, On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Brian David wrote: > It might not be too bad. I would assume (though obviously I can't say > for certain) that Canonical has already approved the most commonly > used modules i.e. CCK, Views, and so on. It might only be a severe > issue if you are using something out of the ordinary. Fortunately, no custom modules are being used. Cheers, Jorge -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: A feature for -lowlatency kernel?
I redid my tests, and found the -generic was less reliable for me after all. ScottL's testing did however show good performance from -generic There are a few results to be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/generic_vs_lowlatency_test_results These tests are still not very adequate, I think. Very practical and unscientific, but given enough time using the kernels and jackd in lower latencies, one will probably start to see trends. On 04/12/2011 05:30 AM, ailo wrote: > Pointless but funny test result from trying -lowlatency on AMD64 with > M-Audio 1010LT: > > jackd -d alsa -d hw:1 -p 16 -n 2 -r 96000 > > Latency showed in qjackctl at 0.333 ms. I get a few xruns, but not as > many as one would think. Not usable with audio programs, though. > > > > My initial tests on two machines (for a somewhat lengthy period of time): > > *-lowlatency* > > Kernel: linux-lowlatency 2.6.39-0 > System: Intel dual core 2.13GHz > Sound Device: HDA Intel (onboard) > Session: Simple Ardour and puredata usage > Lowest reliable jackd setting(without xruns): jackd -d alsa -p 64 / 2.9 ms > > Kernel: linux-lowlatency 2.6.39-0 > System: AMD Athlon X2 245 > Sound Device: M-Audio 1010LT > Session: Simple Ardour usage > Lowest reliable jackd setting: jackd -d alsa -p 32 / 1.45 ms > > *-generic* > > Kernel: linux-generic 2.6.38-8 > System: Intel dual core 2.13GHz > Sound Device: HDA Intel (onboard) > Session: Simple Ardour and puredata usage > Lowest reliable jackd setting(without xruns): jackd -d alsa -p 64 / 2.9 ms > > Kernel: linux-lowlatency 2.6.38-8 > System: AMD Athlon X2 245 > Sound Device: M-Audio 1010LT > Session: Simple Ardour usage > Lowest reliable jackd setting: jackd -d alsa -p 256 / 11.6 ms > > -- > > What is remarkable is how -generic and -lowlatency seem equal on the > Intel dual core, using the onboard sound device, while there is a huge > difference on the AMD64 machine with M-Audio 1010LT. > > > > > > > > On 04/11/2011 02:12 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: >> Dear Ubuntu Studio Developers, >> >> 2011/3/25 Alessio Igor Bogani : >> [...] So I could provide a -lowlatency kernel based on 39 kernel if enough testers will offer theirs help. Sincerely I would want avoid to waste time for make something that no one will use. >> [...] >> >> You can find the 39-lowlatency(*) kernel at >> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/snmp++/+packages >> I suggest to install it manually (so without add the PPA). >> >> Now it's your turn testers! :-) >> >> Ciao, >> Alessio >> >> (*) Irq-threaded by default >> > > -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: A feature for -lowlatency kernel?
On 04/21/2011 04:47 PM, Артём Попов wrote: > 2011/4/11 Alessio Igor Bogani : >> Dear Ubuntu Studio Developers, >> >> 2011/3/25 Alessio Igor Bogani : >> [...] So I could provide a -lowlatency kernel based on 39 kernel if enough testers will offer theirs help. Sincerely I would want avoid to waste time for make something that no one will use. >> [...] >> >> You can find the 39-lowlatency(*) kernel at >> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/snmp++/+packages >> I suggest to install it manually (so without add the PPA). >> >> Now it's your turn testers! :-) >> > > I don't know how to run the proper tests/benchmarks, but I still get > xruns with my firewire card. I've got the firewire_ohci irq shared > between wifi, mmc and usb ports, so I added firewire_ohci to the rtirq > configuration file. > > Qjackctl shows very high CPU load (~60%) when no clients are > connected. After adding firewire_ohci to RTIRQ_NON_THREADED list and > restarting rtirq the load dropped to something like 20%. > After asking around, I was unable to find any clues to your problems. Don't have firewire myself, but I would think that the only file you would possibly need to change is the rtirq script, and that is only if it doesn't give higher prio to your firewire device. To check prios, do: ps -eo comm,class,rtprio,ni,pri The kernel is still a release candidate, so could be it has some problems. Other than that, if no one here can help you, perhaps ffado would know more about firewire specific issues. > Xruns happen with a simple audio player (mocp), haven't tried anything > heavyweight yet. > > Perhaps, some extra tweaking is required to enable this threaded irqs > feature? Any suggestions? Thanks! > > --Artem > -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: A feature for -lowlatency kernel?
2011/4/11 Alessio Igor Bogani : > Dear Ubuntu Studio Developers, > > 2011/3/25 Alessio Igor Bogani : > [...] >>> So I could provide a -lowlatency kernel based on 39 kernel if enough >>> testers will offer theirs help. Sincerely I would want avoid to waste >>> time for make something that no one will use. > [...] > > You can find the 39-lowlatency(*) kernel at > https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/snmp++/+packages > I suggest to install it manually (so without add the PPA). > > Now it's your turn testers! :-) > I don't know how to run the proper tests/benchmarks, but I still get xruns with my firewire card. I've got the firewire_ohci irq shared between wifi, mmc and usb ports, so I added firewire_ohci to the rtirq configuration file. Qjackctl shows very high CPU load (~60%) when no clients are connected. After adding firewire_ohci to RTIRQ_NON_THREADED list and restarting rtirq the load dropped to something like 20%. Xruns happen with a simple audio player (mocp), haven't tried anything heavyweight yet. Perhaps, some extra tweaking is required to enable this threaded irqs feature? Any suggestions? Thanks! --Artem -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
