Re: Studio settings manager (was: studio and xubuntu)

2013-03-03 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, March 3, 2013 9:52 am, Len Ovens wrote:

 In my opinion it would be less confusing to have either a settings manager
 or a settings submenu and not both. As there are some settings that seem
 to be embedded in the settings manager, I would suggest going the same way
 as xubuntu with just the settings manager.

 Xubuntu has the settings manager as an app directly in the top level of
 the menu. We can do the same (possibly easier to support because it is
 standard) or put it either in System or Accessories submenus (or both). My
 opinion is the former.

By the way, the idea is for people to comment on this :)

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dual monitor support

2013-03-03 Thread Len Ovens
I was thinking of seeing if the Display setup could be changed to add dual
monitors. So the user could choose where the second monitor should be. The
only problem with that is hot plug stuff.
 - unplugging a monitor during a session leaves the remaining monitor in
the middle of a huge virtual desktop with no access to the desktop menu.
 - starting the computer with only one monitor plugged in or a second
monitor off, changes the settings to either single monitor or the second
monitor to an unpredictable size/resolution. It may also default to
superimposed.

In Ubuntu vanilla, there is no real setup for where the monitor is, but it
does react nicely to hot plug events. On hot plugging a monitor it is
placed to the right of the first monitor, top aligned. On unplugging the
display reverts correctly to single display. The display setup in their
case does allow the choice of superimposed.

That is a much better setup. I would like to find out how they do it and
if we can use it as is. If not we should create one (and add it to xfce)

The only difference I would like to see is bottoms aligned.


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Re: Studio settings manager (was: studio and xubuntu)

2013-03-03 Thread Kaj Ailomaa

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:52:16 +0100, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:


In my opinion it would be less confusing to have either a settings  
manager

or a settings submenu and not both. As there are some settings that seem
to be embedded in the settings manager, I would suggest going the same  
way

as xubuntu with just the settings manager.

Xubuntu has the settings manager as an app directly in the top level of
the menu. We can do the same (possibly easier to support because it is
standard) or put it either in System or Accessories submenus (or both).  
My

opinion is the former.




+1 on doing it the way Xubuntu does it

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Rolling Release metting at UDS, Tuesday

2013-03-03 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Meeting about rolling release on UDS, Tuesday  
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/foundations-1/


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New XFCE apps

2013-03-03 Thread Len Ovens
I was listening in on the Xubuntu meeting today. Mention was made of
menulibre. I looked it up with synaptic and could not find it. So I asked
:) and it is an in the works deal that xfce will be using to replace
alacarte which both Xubuntu and Studio use as a menu editor. It is being
written by the same author as catfish so I expect it to be good. It is
lighter than alacarte as well... though I think we carry all the gnome
libs anyway. I will be watching testing as work progresses. Perhaps it
will be better than alacarte. I have been frustrated with the lack of
usefulness of alacarte and the support headache I have had with it when
other people try to do more than it was built for.

While I was there I asked about monitor detection and when I told them
why, I was told that there is a new display tool on the way as well.

The background on displays is that dual monitors has been less than easy
to use and once set up less than stable. Unity has a better (not as good
as I would like) setup than xfce does. Unity at least defaults to side by
side... though the side by side is top aligned rather than bottom. This is
ok if both monitors are the same size, but with a laptop the main monitor
in the laptop is likely smaller than the second and bottom alignment makes
more sense (the mouse will be easier to find when moving it from one
display to the other). I don't know how it deals with more than two
monitors, but that is getting into specialty use and requires special X
setup anyway as most video cards only have 2 outputs. Unity also does not
allow setting the second monitor to left of or above the main monitor with
a saved setting. That is, the second monitor can be moved, but if it is
unplugged and reconnected it goes back to default to right of/top aligned.
I would like to have a setup where there are two settings saved. A single
setting and a dual setting and xfce dynamically switches form one setting
to the other on hotplug.


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