Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread Len Ovens

On Tue, June 11, 2013 11:36 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
> I just verfied your fix to work in GNOME 3.6, GNOME 3.6 with Frippery,
> Cairo-Dock, and it works fine with or without this fix in Cinnamon.
> The file that must be edited is /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu

I think that is actually part of the gnome-menus package (or something
like that). This fix would also fix some of the problems with alacarte
(and other menu editors) that people have had.

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Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread lukefromdc
I just verfied your fix to work in GNOME 3.6, GNOME 3.6 with Frippery,
Cairo-Dock, and it works fine with or without this fix in Cinnamon.
The file that must be edited is /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu

On 06/11/2013 at 9:26 AM, "Len Ovens"  wrote:
>
>On Tue, June 11, 2013 12:13 am, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
>
>>> the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what 
>moving the
>>> merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can 
>look for
>>> it) this is a fairly common error in default menu config files.
>>
>> Just want to point out that Luke is talking about a gnome 
>extensions
>> here, so not a standard Gnome menu. I'm guessing this one
>> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/13/applications-menu/.
>> There are a few options when it comes to Gnome menus, but the 
>most
>> relevant I guess, if wanting to file bugs, especially upstream, 
>would be
>> the "classic mode", or "fallback mode" menu.
>>
>
>There is some of that. Some menus are not meant to follow the 
>opendesktop
>standard and only use the desktop files and ignore config files. 
>KDE has
>some like that and of course unity and gnome shell do as well. It 
>is only
>a bug when the menu uses an /etc/xdg/*/menus/config file that 
>claims to do
>merges. Then the merges should be done correctly. There are at 
>least 5
>(just that I know of) other projects that rely on proper merging, 
>it is
>not just our menus.
>
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Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread lukefromdc
CORRECTION: GNOME 3.6 will show a menu if you click on the
bottom icon in the overview sidebar. This menu, like Cairo-dock
and frippery, mixes up the menus alphabetically.

On 06/11/2013 at 2:07 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>
>GNOME 3.6 does not seem to give ANY standard menu anymore, instead
>giving a search box only that will then pull up menu options. I 
>don't see any
>way to put US menus in that unless it was an extension that added 
>a true
>menu like Frippery does. That would be hell to mantain, given the 
>constant
>changes in gnome-shell.
>
>On 06/11/2013 at 3:13 AM, "Kaj Ailomaa"  
>wrote:
>>
>>On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, June 10, 2013 8:23 pm, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>> > I've now tested the new menu package with cairo-dock and with
>>> > the Frippery menus in gnome-shell 3.6. In both cases, the US
>>> > menus were mixed alphabetically with the others, which was
>>> > NOT the case in Cinnamon.
>>> 
>>> Hmm, got this message but not the last one below. I am guessing 
>>my server
>>> is just too slow. I did get  a faster computer today and will 
>>try it
>>> tomorrow. Anyway, glad to hear at least something works. The 
>>problem with
>>> the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what 
>>moving the
>>> merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can 
>>look for
>>> it) this is a fairly common error in default menu config files.
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>Just want to point out that Luke is talking about a gnome 
>>extensions
>>here, so not a standard Gnome menu. I'm guessing this one
>>https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/13/applications-menu/.
>>There are a few options when it comes to Gnome menus, but the most
>>relevant I guess, if wanting to file bugs, especially upstream, 
>>would be
>>the "classic mode", or "fallback mode" menu.
>>
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Re: Ubuntu Studio Phone !

2013-06-11 Thread lukefromdc
That may actually be a usable device in the field for radio news reporters. 
Assuming
a good microphone or a phone having a microphone jack or even the ability to 
use a 
USB mike, that would mean a reporter has an audio recorder that can also edit 
audio
right there in the field, and since it is also a phone can send it directly to 
the station. 
It would also be one of the only trustworthy phones out there (excluding any 
firmware
snoopware).

Audio editing of single tracks at a time or a few tracks at a time can be done 
all the
way back to the original Pentium with Audacity, surely any smartphone can
beat that level of performance

On 06/11/2013 at 9:46 AM, "C. F. Howlett"  wrote:
>
>My Nexus 4


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Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread lukefromdc
GNOME 3.6 does not seem to give ANY standard menu anymore, instead
giving a search box only that will then pull up menu options. I don't see any
way to put US menus in that unless it was an extension that added a true
menu like Frippery does. That would be hell to mantain, given the constant
changes in gnome-shell.

On 06/11/2013 at 3:13 AM, "Kaj Ailomaa"  wrote:
>
>On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, June 10, 2013 8:23 pm, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>> > I've now tested the new menu package with cairo-dock and with
>> > the Frippery menus in gnome-shell 3.6. In both cases, the US
>> > menus were mixed alphabetically with the others, which was
>> > NOT the case in Cinnamon.
>> 
>> Hmm, got this message but not the last one below. I am guessing 
>my server
>> is just too slow. I did get  a faster computer today and will 
>try it
>> tomorrow. Anyway, glad to hear at least something works. The 
>problem with
>> the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what 
>moving the
>> merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can 
>look for
>> it) this is a fairly common error in default menu config files.
>> 
>> 
>
>Just want to point out that Luke is talking about a gnome 
>extensions
>here, so not a standard Gnome menu. I'm guessing this one
>https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/13/applications-menu/.
>There are a few options when it comes to Gnome menus, but the most
>relevant I guess, if wanting to file bugs, especially upstream, 
>would be
>the "classic mode", or "fallback mode" menu.
>
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Ubuntu Studio Phone !

2013-06-11 Thread C. F. Howlett
My Nexus 4
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Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread Len Ovens

On Tue, June 11, 2013 12:13 am, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:

>> the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what moving the
>> merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can look for
>> it) this is a fairly common error in default menu config files.
>
> Just want to point out that Luke is talking about a gnome extensions
> here, so not a standard Gnome menu. I'm guessing this one
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/13/applications-menu/.
> There are a few options when it comes to Gnome menus, but the most
> relevant I guess, if wanting to file bugs, especially upstream, would be
> the "classic mode", or "fallback mode" menu.
>

There is some of that. Some menus are not meant to follow the opendesktop
standard and only use the desktop files and ignore config files. KDE has
some like that and of course unity and gnome shell do as well. It is only
a bug when the menu uses an /etc/xdg/*/menus/config file that claims to do
merges. Then the merges should be done correctly. There are at least 5
(just that I know of) other projects that rely on proper merging, it is
not just our menus.

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Re: Status of new DE agnostic menu tests

2013-06-11 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 08:34 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
> 
> On Mon, June 10, 2013 8:23 pm, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
> > I've now tested the new menu package with cairo-dock and with
> > the Frippery menus in gnome-shell 3.6. In both cases, the US
> > menus were mixed alphabetically with the others, which was
> > NOT the case in Cinnamon.
> 
> Hmm, got this message but not the last one below. I am guessing my server
> is just too slow. I did get  a faster computer today and will try it
> tomorrow. Anyway, glad to hear at least something works. The problem with
> the gnomeshell menus is they merge incorrectly. That is what moving the
> merge line in the menu is for. (I left it down below so you can look for
> it) this is a fairly common error in default menu config files.
> 
> 

Just want to point out that Luke is talking about a gnome extensions
here, so not a standard Gnome menu. I'm guessing this one
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/13/applications-menu/.
There are a few options when it comes to Gnome menus, but the most
relevant I guess, if wanting to file bugs, especially upstream, would be
the "classic mode", or "fallback mode" menu.

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