Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Immutable Page
Not to barge in here, but I am subscribed to the ubuntu doc's team mailing list and they had been getting hit hard with spam so they locked the wiki down both community side as well as main wiki.If I am not mistaken only particular individuals have permissions to make edits to the wiki's Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 20:57:35 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: > >Not sure that joining a LP group is really that much of a hardship tbh. > ( > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-April/007640.html > ) > > Did you notice that e.g. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases was last edited 2016-02-05? > > While Wikipdia about Ubuntu was edited today? > > Likely people aren't aware what's going on ;), so yes, it's hard, if > you don't know what to do. > > In my case, I dislike to subscribe to another instance to contribute. > There are not that many experienced Linux pro-audio users spending time > to edit help pages related to this domain. Any additional > time-consuming steps are bad. In addition I mistrust that the reason > for this approach is spam. > > Regards, > Ralf > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
The latest Nautilus (with Gtk 3.20) works just fine, I set list or icon mode and the option persists between restarts (killall nautilus). [image: Imagini inline 1] 2016-04-22 18:34 GMT+02:00 Thomas Pfundt : > Hello Washington, > > thank you very much for your hint. I had another look at this and it > finally worked for me. I tried setting the parameter in the dconf editor > before, but apparently I wrote "list-view" with a dash instead of an > underscore, so I assumed it does not work. Always a good idea to > double-check, so thanks again! > > @ Len: Just a quick remark on the "gear wheel" that you suggested using: > I do not see a "gear wheel" anywhere when I install Nautilus on Ubuntu > Studio 15.10 or 16.04. There is a menu toggle button, but it only gives > options related to the currently viewed folder. Normally there should be > a way of entering the preferences from the file manager's interface, but > I see no possibility to access it, because the button layout is > different from Unity and the Xfce window decorator prevents targeting > the menu bar, I believe. I haven't tested the other mentioned file > managers, yet. > > With the possibility of changing the settings with the dconf-editor > however, this is absolutely usable for me. I hope this did not turn into > a technical support issue too much. > > > Kind regards, > Thomas > > > On 21.04.2016 17:00, Wachín wrote: > > to work with list- or detail-view in nautilus so you need to install: > > > > sudo apt-get install dconf-editor > > > > launch it from terminal, or with the launcher Alt+F2, with: > > > > dconf-editor > > > > Go to: > > > > org/gnome/nautilus/preferences/default-folder-viewer > > > > see: > > > > > http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249276_7582161_e59392d954.png > > > > double clic in "default-folder-viewer" and chose that you want, example > > list_view: > > > > > http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249538_8654939_4b9c8192b5.png > > > > it is important that you recorded in your memory the name of that > > package "dconf-editor" for you easy use in next times > > > > Oh, I said you a new. In the repositories of 15.10 there is a package > > called dolphin4, this software I use to my main file manager, this is > > the same that dolphin but working the search option. I know is necessary > > to install dome services, but is very fantanstic. If you try to use it, > > I made some tutorials for the most necessary config: > > > > Extraer aquí - Comprimir (File-Roller) para dolphin > > > http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2014/11/extraer-aqui-comprimir-file-roller-para.html > > > > Añadir enqueue (a la cola de reproducción) al menu contextual del > > administrador de archivos dolphin > > > http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2016/02/anadir-enqueue-al-menu-contextual-del.html > > > > other importantly: > > > > kubuntu - Enabling PDF preview in Dolphin - Ask Ubuntu > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/86338/enabling-pdf-preview-in-dolphin > > from this I install: kdegraphics-thumbnailers > > > > > > See also: > > Preview video files with Dolphin file manager > > inside the: > > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Saucy_File_Managers > > from this I install: mplayerthumbs > > > > Sorry my english I am spanish parlant > > > > God Bless, > > Washington Indacochea Delgado > > > > El 21/04/16 a las 07:30, Thomas Pfundt escribió: > >> work for setting the default file manager, that is a bug for sure. > >> > >> Oh no, maybe I've not clearly described the issue with this. I am able > >> to install Nautilus and set it as the default file manager. The problem > >> is that I have not been able to access its preferences, because the > >> Xfce-menu links still open the Thunar settings and I have not been able > >> to access the Nautilus menu bar with Alt+F10 or by any other means. > >> > >> Because of this, Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon > >> closing, which is a bit unfortunate, because I tend to work with list- > >> or detail-views in the folders mostly and I basically have to set this > >> every time when launching the file manager. Accessing any other settings > >> is not possible either at this point. It's really a matter of > >> convenience for me, but not being able to access an alternative file > >> manager's preferences might be an issue. Like I mentioned, I also can't > >> find a terminal command for it, such as "nautilus-preferences/-settings" > >> or anything similar. > >> > >> I also just realised that Nautilus is not really popular among the > >> community apparently, I just haven't used any other file manager in the > >> past and I've never experienced any particular problems with it > >> personally, so this was my first choice after Thunar became too > >> impractical to use for me. If there is another favourite file manager > >> for someone here, maybe I could try that one instead and see if it works > >> better in terms of integration and stability. > >> > >> > >> Ki
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
As for themes, I've kept my modded (blue-green) UbuntuStudio_Legacy port current, supports GTK2, GTK 3.14 through GTk 3.20 and even development GTK 3.21. (GTK 3.14 now deprecated for my other packages due to breakage). You can see for yourself in this package how to support multiple GTK 3 versions, you just keep the previous version's theme in a versioned subdirectory and add a new one for each GTK 3 version. With "snap" packages coming in for things like Firefox and some no doubt using different GTK3 versions, this may soon be mandatory. Debian package is in my usual Archive repo at https://archive.org/details/DebianPackagesForMate-desktopWityGtk3AndCustomPanelTheme Link to the theme .deb package itself is at https://archive.org/download/DebianPackagesForMate-desktopWityGtk3AndCustomPanelTheme/gtk-theme-ubuntustudio-legacy-2.1.0_all.deb but that link will break when the theme is next updated and that version moved to "previous_versions" On 4/22/2016 at 4:04 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: >>Yes I can confirm that nautilus has become less useful than in >14.04 >>(even) I guess it must be a gnome application where removing >>functionallity is considered progress. >> >>So nautilus is effectively broken/non-standard/not DE- >agnostic/not >>recomended for xfce. >> >>I can also confirm that thunar fails for me after about 4 file >renames. > >I switched to openbox a long time ago and I use a selection of apps >such as spacefm, roxterm and other, however, GTK3 upstream already >introduced the next fun. The current official GTK3 is broken. The >best >bet is to use as many GTK2 apps as possible and now the bomb drops, >keep old themes for GTK2 apps and expect that old themes won't work >with GTK3 anymore, OTOH new themes are a PITA. I don't expect that >this >will be fixed, I guess apart from a few bugs, breakage is intended. >However, some coders switch from GTK to Qt, but there are also >issues >with Qt. > >https://sourceforge.net/projects/qt5ct/ doesn't work correctly and >yes, >I set the environment variable. > >$ echo $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME >qt5ct > >This is on an Arch Linux install, but soon or later Debian and >Ubuntu >will be affected from upstream insanity too. > >Now people start dropping Xfce4, however, it's impossible to get >rid >of all bugs, even openbox, i3 etc. with apps that don't depend to a >desktop environment suffer from GTK upstream. > >Yet there seems to be no way to solve the desktop issue. The Linux >desktop is broken. > >-- >ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list >ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 15:58:19 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >Have you considered Caja? For good reasons I stay away from caja and nemo. My recommendation is spacefm compiled against GTK2. Everybody who is able to write scripts will get the most powerful file manager available, OTOH on Ubuntu Wili I have rodent compiled against GTK2 installed in addition, it's not everybody's taste, but an interesting file manager, because it allows to type command line commands, without opening a terminal, but latest releases are compiled against GTK3 and perform much too slow much slower than GTK3 apps nowadays anyway do. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: >Yes I can confirm that nautilus has become less useful than in 14.04 >(even) I guess it must be a gnome application where removing >functionallity is considered progress. > >So nautilus is effectively broken/non-standard/not DE-agnostic/not >recomended for xfce. > >I can also confirm that thunar fails for me after about 4 file renames. I switched to openbox a long time ago and I use a selection of apps such as spacefm, roxterm and other, however, GTK3 upstream already introduced the next fun. The current official GTK3 is broken. The best bet is to use as many GTK2 apps as possible and now the bomb drops, keep old themes for GTK2 apps and expect that old themes won't work with GTK3 anymore, OTOH new themes are a PITA. I don't expect that this will be fixed, I guess apart from a few bugs, breakage is intended. However, some coders switch from GTK to Qt, but there are also issues with Qt. https://sourceforge.net/projects/qt5ct/ doesn't work correctly and yes, I set the environment variable. $ echo $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME qt5ct This is on an Arch Linux install, but soon or later Debian and Ubuntu will be affected from upstream insanity too. Now people start dropping Xfce4, however, it's impossible to get rid of all bugs, even openbox, i3 etc. with apps that don't depend to a desktop environment suffer from GTK upstream. Yet there seems to be no way to solve the desktop issue. The Linux desktop is broken. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
Have you considered Caja? I believe version 1.12 will be in repo, built with GTK2. On 4/22/2016 at 3:35 PM, "Len Ovens" wrote: > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2016, Thomas Pfundt wrote: > >> @ Len: Just a quick remark on the "gear wheel" that you >suggested using: >> I do not see a "gear wheel" anywhere when I install Nautilus on >Ubuntu >> Studio 15.10 or 16.04. There is a menu toggle button, but it >only gives >> options related to the currently viewed folder. Normally there >should be >> a way of entering the preferences from the file manager's >interface, but >> I see no possibility to access it, because the button layout is >> different from Unity and the Xfce window decorator prevents >targeting >> the menu bar, I believe. I haven't tested the other mentioned >file >> managers, yet. > >Yes I can confirm that nautilus has become less useful than in >14.04 >(even) I guess it must be a gnome application where removing >functionallity is considered progress. > >So nautilus is effectively broken/non-standard/not DE-agnostic/not >recomended for xfce. > >I can also confirm that thunar fails for me after about 4 file >renames. > >-- >Len Ovens >www.ovenwerks.net > > >-- >ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list >ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
On Fri, 22 Apr 2016, Thomas Pfundt wrote: @ Len: Just a quick remark on the "gear wheel" that you suggested using: I do not see a "gear wheel" anywhere when I install Nautilus on Ubuntu Studio 15.10 or 16.04. There is a menu toggle button, but it only gives options related to the currently viewed folder. Normally there should be a way of entering the preferences from the file manager's interface, but I see no possibility to access it, because the button layout is different from Unity and the Xfce window decorator prevents targeting the menu bar, I believe. I haven't tested the other mentioned file managers, yet. Yes I can confirm that nautilus has become less useful than in 14.04 (even) I guess it must be a gnome application where removing functionallity is considered progress. So nautilus is effectively broken/non-standard/not DE-agnostic/not recomended for xfce. I can also confirm that thunar fails for me after about 4 file renames. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing
Hello Washington, thank you very much for your hint. I had another look at this and it finally worked for me. I tried setting the parameter in the dconf editor before, but apparently I wrote "list-view" with a dash instead of an underscore, so I assumed it does not work. Always a good idea to double-check, so thanks again! @ Len: Just a quick remark on the "gear wheel" that you suggested using: I do not see a "gear wheel" anywhere when I install Nautilus on Ubuntu Studio 15.10 or 16.04. There is a menu toggle button, but it only gives options related to the currently viewed folder. Normally there should be a way of entering the preferences from the file manager's interface, but I see no possibility to access it, because the button layout is different from Unity and the Xfce window decorator prevents targeting the menu bar, I believe. I haven't tested the other mentioned file managers, yet. With the possibility of changing the settings with the dconf-editor however, this is absolutely usable for me. I hope this did not turn into a technical support issue too much. Kind regards, Thomas On 21.04.2016 17:00, Wachín wrote: > to work with list- or detail-view in nautilus so you need to install: > > sudo apt-get install dconf-editor > > launch it from terminal, or with the launcher Alt+F2, with: > > dconf-editor > > Go to: > > org/gnome/nautilus/preferences/default-folder-viewer > > see: > > http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249276_7582161_e59392d954.png > > double clic in "default-folder-viewer" and chose that you want, example > list_view: > > http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249538_8654939_4b9c8192b5.png > > it is important that you recorded in your memory the name of that > package "dconf-editor" for you easy use in next times > > Oh, I said you a new. In the repositories of 15.10 there is a package > called dolphin4, this software I use to my main file manager, this is > the same that dolphin but working the search option. I know is necessary > to install dome services, but is very fantanstic. If you try to use it, > I made some tutorials for the most necessary config: > > Extraer aquí - Comprimir (File-Roller) para dolphin > http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2014/11/extraer-aqui-comprimir-file-roller-para.html > > Añadir enqueue (a la cola de reproducción) al menu contextual del > administrador de archivos dolphin > http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2016/02/anadir-enqueue-al-menu-contextual-del.html > > other importantly: > > kubuntu - Enabling PDF preview in Dolphin - Ask Ubuntu > http://askubuntu.com/questions/86338/enabling-pdf-preview-in-dolphin > from this I install: kdegraphics-thumbnailers > > > See also: > Preview video files with Dolphin file manager > inside the: > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Saucy_File_Managers > from this I install: mplayerthumbs > > Sorry my english I am spanish parlant > > God Bless, > Washington Indacochea Delgado > > El 21/04/16 a las 07:30, Thomas Pfundt escribió: >> work for setting the default file manager, that is a bug for sure. >> >> Oh no, maybe I've not clearly described the issue with this. I am able >> to install Nautilus and set it as the default file manager. The problem >> is that I have not been able to access its preferences, because the >> Xfce-menu links still open the Thunar settings and I have not been able >> to access the Nautilus menu bar with Alt+F10 or by any other means. >> >> Because of this, Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon >> closing, which is a bit unfortunate, because I tend to work with list- >> or detail-views in the folders mostly and I basically have to set this >> every time when launching the file manager. Accessing any other settings >> is not possible either at this point. It's really a matter of >> convenience for me, but not being able to access an alternative file >> manager's preferences might be an issue. Like I mentioned, I also can't >> find a terminal command for it, such as "nautilus-preferences/-settings" >> or anything similar. >> >> I also just realised that Nautilus is not really popular among the >> community apparently, I just haven't used any other file manager in the >> past and I've never experienced any particular problems with it >> personally, so this was my first choice after Thunar became too >> impractical to use for me. If there is another favourite file manager >> for someone here, maybe I could try that one instead and see if it works >> better in terms of integration and stability. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> Thomas > > -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
