Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:23:39 +0200 Set Hallstrom wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all: i am very sorry things went so sour in that discussion. > I feel i owe everyone an apology: I apologize for letting my own > feelings take the lead. Kaj, Jimmy and the group as a hole. > > Who wants to work with a grumpy extremist with static ways? Not me. > > Many of the blames i formulated were probably aimed at myself: i > understand this project is not the place to push my freesoftware > philosophy agenda in 7 steps, to Set us free, hackers, to Set us > free. I understand i need to leave discussions open for solutions in > an inclusive way for the benefit of the team and the users, over the > benefit of my personal integrity. I realize i tend to be triggered by > the idea of using mainstream media, and i will work on that. While i > admit still being in the midst of a thought process, for now i can say > this: i do understand it is up to the community in its entirety; users > and devels a-like to decide how, when, why and what tools we use. Not > up to my personal beliefs to determine what is appropriate or not for > our project. This is our project, not mine. > > I understand i came across as an extremist/purist/grumpycat, but i > assure you i am not. I am just a pingnu perfectly comfortable with the > compromises Ubuntu does in order to enable the community to welcome > users of all levels of computer literacy. If i wasn't comfortable with > this, i wouldn't be here to begin with. TBH with you and myself, i'm > still working on understanding what made me allow myself to be > stubborn and exclusive, and while at the moment i might not be in the > brightest most secure position in my life away from keyboard, i will > work hard to address it and to make sure i do not get the community > mixed up with my moods again. > > I reached out fairly soon the to community council to ask for help but > they haven't responded yet. In all sincerity, i'm glad they didn't get > back ASAP, because it let me marinate in my mess for a moment giving > me time to get back down and reflect upon my own behavior. But i look > forward to develop contact with them because i think they have > experiences, tools and ideas we may benefit from. I do not plan to > bail on you, unless that would be the desire/best-interest of the > group and i hope you will give me the chance to show you that i can > learn from my mistakes. It usually takes some time for us (the CC) to digest an issue. Most of the times, barging in without a clear understanding of the issues ends up worse... We were made aware of it by you, and we do thank you for that. Your current email is a marvelous step in the right direction (conflict resolution). We, the CC, will happily help with anything we can do. But this is the preferred way for conflicts to be addressed. This means, as far as I can personally see, that we are already on a path to recovery. I do hope the other party will be willing to reconsider his position, or at least be willing to talk with us. > Hopefully, from here we will be able to move forward to release yet > another great version of Ubuntu Studio in happy collaboration, without > leaving any mess under the rugg... It would be nice for someone to contact the other party, as well. Cheers, ..C.. pgpRY7SVXznJ1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies
Hi, I know what everyone here does is hard and almost thankless work, so I just want to say thank you and "I understand" -- I really do; almost all of my work is in the same "hard and almost thankless" category. :) Keep up the good fight! You have my full support! Much love, Devin -- Devin Ulibarri (505) 379-6253 www.devinulibarri.com -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies
On Thu, Jul 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all: i am very sorry things went so sour in that discussion. I > feel i owe everyone an apology: I apologize for letting my own feelings > take the lead. Kaj, Jimmy and the group as a hole. > I also apologize for the language and attitude that was used on my part. > Who wants to work with a grumpy extremist with static ways? Not me. > > Many of the blames i formulated were probably aimed at myself: i > understand this project is not the place to push my freesoftware > philosophy agenda in 7 steps, to Set us free, hackers, to Set us free. I > understand i need to leave discussions open for solutions in an > inclusive way for the benefit of the team and the users, over the > benefit of my personal integrity. I realize i tend to be triggered by > the idea of using mainstream media, and i will work on that. While i > admit still being in the midst of a thought process, for now i can say > this: i do understand it is up to the community in its entirety; users > and devels a-like to decide how, when, why and what tools we use. Not up > to my personal beliefs to determine what is appropriate or not for our > project. This is our project, not mine. > > I understand i came across as an extremist/purist/grumpycat, but i > assure you i am not. I am just a pingnu perfectly comfortable with the > compromises Ubuntu does in order to enable the community to welcome > users of all levels of computer literacy. If i wasn't comfortable with > this, i wouldn't be here to begin with. TBH with you and myself, i'm > still working on understanding what made me allow myself to be stubborn > and exclusive, and while at the moment i might not be in the brightest > most secure position in my life away from keyboard, i will work hard to > address it and to make sure i do not get the community mixed up with my > moods again. > > I reached out fairly soon the to community council to ask for help but > they haven't responded yet. In all sincerity, i'm glad they didn't get > back ASAP, because it let me marinate in my mess for a moment giving me > time to get back down and reflect upon my own behavior. But i look > forward to develop contact with them because i think they have > experiences, tools and ideas we may benefit from. I do not plan to bail > on you, unless that would be the desire/best-interest of the group and i > hope you will give me the chance to show you that i can learn from my > mistakes. > > Hopefully, from here we will be able to move forward to release yet > another great version of Ubuntu Studio in happy collaboration, without > leaving any mess under the rugg... > > Yours sincerly, > Thanks for this! I at least don't see any reason why the project should not be able to continue and improve with such an open minded attitude. And, surely, we are all human and we all make mistakes from time to time. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies
On 2016-07-14 10:23, Set Hallstrom wrote: > the group as a hole erm... the group as a whole, of course... -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies
Hi all, First of all: i am very sorry things went so sour in that discussion. I feel i owe everyone an apology: I apologize for letting my own feelings take the lead. Kaj, Jimmy and the group as a hole. Who wants to work with a grumpy extremist with static ways? Not me. Many of the blames i formulated were probably aimed at myself: i understand this project is not the place to push my freesoftware philosophy agenda in 7 steps, to Set us free, hackers, to Set us free. I understand i need to leave discussions open for solutions in an inclusive way for the benefit of the team and the users, over the benefit of my personal integrity. I realize i tend to be triggered by the idea of using mainstream media, and i will work on that. While i admit still being in the midst of a thought process, for now i can say this: i do understand it is up to the community in its entirety; users and devels a-like to decide how, when, why and what tools we use. Not up to my personal beliefs to determine what is appropriate or not for our project. This is our project, not mine. I understand i came across as an extremist/purist/grumpycat, but i assure you i am not. I am just a pingnu perfectly comfortable with the compromises Ubuntu does in order to enable the community to welcome users of all levels of computer literacy. If i wasn't comfortable with this, i wouldn't be here to begin with. TBH with you and myself, i'm still working on understanding what made me allow myself to be stubborn and exclusive, and while at the moment i might not be in the brightest most secure position in my life away from keyboard, i will work hard to address it and to make sure i do not get the community mixed up with my moods again. I reached out fairly soon the to community council to ask for help but they haven't responded yet. In all sincerity, i'm glad they didn't get back ASAP, because it let me marinate in my mess for a moment giving me time to get back down and reflect upon my own behavior. But i look forward to develop contact with them because i think they have experiences, tools and ideas we may benefit from. I do not plan to bail on you, unless that would be the desire/best-interest of the group and i hope you will give me the chance to show you that i can learn from my mistakes. Hopefully, from here we will be able to move forward to release yet another great version of Ubuntu Studio in happy collaboration, without leaving any mess under the rugg... Yours sincerly, -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel