Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Legacy Support

2017-07-30 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Helios Martinez Dominguez wrote:


There should be a way to provide x86 support natively while providing x64
upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated. It would allow to 
remain


We already do provide both 32 and 64 bit ISOs. Putting both on one ISO 
would pretty much double the size of an ISO that is the biggest ISO of all 
the Ubuntu ISOs. Last I checked, UbuntuSTudio did still load and work on 
well over 10 years old computers so long as they have at least 1 Gig ram 
(though more is needed to make the best use) There are enough people who 
rely on a machine not connected to tyhe internet to make on the go 
installs not practical.



lighter ISO's, support legacy hardware with lower performance​ than commercially
available and upgrade to a more recent configuration as required. I would like 
to
configure such code myself as i consider i am a great developer and could (and
should) provide myself with such requirements as needed, yet my knowledge on the
procedure is poor at the time and it would take longer to study and practice all
the way through the learning process than to proceed to ask for someone else who
does knows, works and relies on the procedure on a periodic basis. As such, i
formally ask the development team to address my request into such matter, as
possible. Thanks in advance. Good day.


Please make yourself available to take on this task. Asking a few people 
with hardly any time to take on yet another task just means most people 
will just hit the delete key on this mail and get on with life.


Really you should at least make yourself familiar enough with the process 
to know how much work you are asking "someone" else to do for your system 
and maybe not many others in their spare time. The Ubuntu kernel and 
repository maintainers are already asking us to drop support for 32bit 
systems... and some of our main applications are no longer 32bit 
compatable upstream by the application developers either.



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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Legacy Support

2017-07-30 Thread Helios Martinez Dominguez
Greetings, once again.

I would not like to appear insisting nor recurrent in sight of my previous
digests, yet there is another issue i would like to address, as i feel it
is our concern as developers, even if my input has been few about the
overall development process. The fact is, since 12.04, there has been a
strong lack of legacy support for the outdated hardware, which i believe
remains as one of the main motivation for Linux distributions all over.
While there seems consistent that Microsoft and Apple provide the ultimate
technology support for their standards and drop support to those appliances
which no longer produce or rely on, the main line of action about Linux
developers, administrators and users remain about recovering, updating and
making use of legacy hardware all around the globe, which seem to me have
been overlooked by the Ubuntu Studio distribution since 12 or 13 and above.
It is understandable to provide a common ground for compatibility and keep
providing downloading links for the previous versions which have been
relying on deprecated hardware and configurations, yet the legacy support
which characterizes Linux ideal of working seems to be overlooked while the
distribution advances forward to brand new hardware, appearing there are
commercial linkage to hardware manufacturers and sellers, while should not
be the case. This is my personal appreciation as i happen to rely on legacy
hardware to keep providing myself for computational and informatic services
while the technology race goes on as fast as it wants to. I believe there
is strong resonance on the matter all through the community and it should
be noticed and taken on account on future versions, even if it seems to
require heavier code
​ ​
(when actually is usually lighter code which is required to provide for
legacy support)
​ and more disk (iso) space.

There should be a way to provide x86 support natively while providing x64
upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated. It would allow to
remain lighter ISO's, support legacy hardware with lower performance​ than
commercially available and upgrade to a more recent configuration as
required. I would like to configure such code myself as i consider i am a
great developer and could (and should) provide myself with such
requirements as needed, yet my knowledge on the procedure is poor at the
time and it would take longer to study and practice all the way through the
learning process than to proceed to ask for someone else who does knows,
works and relies on the procedure on a periodic basis. As such, i formally
ask the development team to address my request into such matter, as
possible. Thanks in advance. Good day.




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