Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Erich Eickmeyer]

>> Alan Pope recommended I post a “call for testing” on the Ubuntu
>> Community Portal, so I’ll get on that. The more eyes, the better. :)
>> 
> 
> Awesome, thank you! The community portal would be the website, i
> think... Anyways, I posted on facebook and twitter this morning (CET)
> but don't let it hold you back from creating another (few?) post/tweets
> about it!

Awesome! At work at the moment (hence my sig is missing), but I can perhaps do 
some stuff later and when I get home tonight.

The community portal is https://community.ubuntu.com. I posted there, and was 
given a little guidance from the Xubuntu QA lead. It’s nice to have all the 
flavors working together!


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Saturday Meetings Update

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi everyone, 
 
so, since there have been no further objections, let's set our first meeting 
this Saturday the 7th at 19:00 UTC. 
 
As Len Ovens correctly notified me of, I accidentally got a little mixed up in 
the American time zones. 19:00 UTC is, of course, 12:00 PDT and not 10:00. I'm 
sorry for the confusion and hope that this is still fine or we can make it work 
somehow this Saturday. If possible, I'd like to keep it that way and we can 
directly discuss a different time for future meetings, then. 
 
So, the actual times would be (corrected): 
22:00 EEST/MSK in Helsinki, Moscow, Ankara 
21:00 CEST in Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, Madrid 
20:00 BST in London 
19:00 UTC/GMT 
15:00 EDT in New York, Toronto 
12:00 PDT in Los Angeles, Vancouver 
 
 
Looking forward to reading you all! :) 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[Erich Eickmeyer]

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Set Hallstrom  wrote:
> 
> On 2018-04-05 19:09, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>> I’ll keep funky ideas and impossible stuff to myself. :)
> 
> Please don't! If we censor ourselves for fear of saying something wrong,
> perhaps we are going to miss out on something brilliant!

Sorry. Forgot to use the sarcasm font. :D


Erich


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2018-04-05 19:09, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> I’ll keep funky ideas and impossible stuff to myself. :)

Please don't! If we censor ourselves for fear of saying something wrong,
perhaps we are going to miss out on something brilliant!

Of course, not everything will always work and one needs to be ready to
be contradicted and learn. But put the ideas on the table
_without discrimination_ so we can all contemplate them and pick the
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2018-04-05 19:18, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

>> If someone wants to have a go at writing up the release notes on
>> the wiki, we need a Beta 2 Release Notes page created based on the
>> last one: 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta2/UbuntuStudio Hold your
>> hand up (volunteer here).
> 
> I would love to do this, but, admittedly, I don’t know what to write.
> :/

i went ahead and did it:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Beta2/UbuntuStudio

Just need to get the list of known problems, once they're on the tracker.

>> If someone is volunteering to write a post about the release for
>> the website, also sing out!
> 
> I could do that. I guess I could just look at past posts and, if
> anybody has an idea of what to add, I’ll take that as well. I would
> need access to edit the site, though.

Please, that would be awesome! :) I think the PR group grants access.
Try going here and click the login button.
http://ubuntustudio.org/wp-login

I added you yo website team just to be sure. :)

Here is how the post looked for beta1 release of 17.10
http://ubuntustudio.org/2017/09/17-10-beta-1-release/

> 
> Alan Pope recommended I post a “call for testing” on the Ubuntu
> Community Portal, so I’ll get on that. The more eyes, the better. :)
> 

Awesome, thank you! The community portal would be the website, i
think... Anyways, I posted on facebook and twitter this morning (CET)
but don't let it hold you back from creating another (few?) post/tweets
about it!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-controls

[Erich Eickmeyer]

> The answer is Carla I think. It also includes a patch bay. On the other hand, 
> a patch bay on it's own or as a part of -controls would make an ok feature 
> request.

Yeah, I’ve used Carla. It makes a great plugin host for live audio production, 
and the patchbay is based on the same one in Catia. Probably the way to go, 
especially since Carla is a separate project from Cadence. My biggest problem 
with Carla as a plugin host was the inability to sync BPM across multiple 
plugins (i.e. delay effects).

> in other news with -controls, I have noticed that udev sometimes "resets" 
> even pci/internal audio interfaces sometimes with the result that every 
> interface available gets connected as a client if possible. :) This is really 
> part of the same thing as being able to connect more than one USB device. It 
> is all about keeping track of all audio devices. But hey, baby steps. Things 
> work quite well as they are.
> 
> I also need to add autojack as a dbus service so that if it happens to not be 
> running, -controls can kick it.
> 
> -controls should be considered alpha just now. But it works quite well as a 
> proof of concept and probably well enough for someone who has a USB mic they 
> want to use.
> 

Either way, this is great. I can see this along with a number of other 
improvements or enhancements making their way into the 18.10 release, which 
could potentially position Ubuntu once again as /the/ choice for audio 
production.

I love that this ball is rolling again and that we’re pushing forward for a 
solid release and planning for the future. This is great!

Erich


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-controls

[Len Ovens]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

This is indeed great news. I think I would favor this over Cadence. What 
really sets Cadence apart is the Catia component (graphical patchbay), 
but I guess one could use Patchage for the same interface, even though 
it is out of development. Maybe it’s time to fork Patchage? I dunno…


The answer is Carla I think. It also includes a patch bay. On the other 
hand, a patch bay on it's own or as a part of -controls would make an ok 
feature request.


in other news with -controls, I have noticed that udev sometimes "resets" 
even pci/internal audio interfaces sometimes with the result that every 
interface available gets connected as a client if possible. :) This is 
really part of the same thing as being able to connect more than one USB 
device. It is all about keeping track of all audio devices. But hey, baby 
steps. Things work quite well as they are.


I also need to add autojack as a dbus service so that if it happens to not 
be running, -controls can kick it.


-controls should be considered alpha just now. But it works quite well as 
a proof of concept and probably well enough for someone who has a USB mic 
they want to use.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Erich Eickmeyer]

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Ross Gammon  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Erich,
> 
> The images have been made available two days late - just now (and I
> still haven't received the normal build notification for some reason):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds
> 
> The release date is still tomorrow (Thurs 5th April) however. So
> everyone get testing!
> 
> If someone wants to have a go at writing up the release notes on the
> wiki, we need a Beta 2 Release Notes page created based on the last one:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta2/UbuntuStudio
> Hold your hand up (volunteer here).

I would love to do this, but, admittedly, I don’t know what to write. :/

> The release team will want the link for their "overall ubuntu" release
> notes (page not created yet):
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Beta2
> 
> If someone is volunteering to write a post about the release for the
> website, also sing out!

I could do that. I guess I could just look at past posts and, if anybody has an 
idea of what to add, I’ll take that as well. I would need access to edit the 
site, though.

> 
> As there has not been a lot of action from us on the Beaver so far, it
> is really important that we give this Beta Release a good bash. We want
> as many bugs identified as possible before the final release a few weeks
> later. Feel free to go beyond the listed test cases and give all the
> apps a good going over.
> 
> I am not sure I will be home from work in time to participate in the
> testing, so if someone is willing to let the release team know on IRC
> that there has been enough testing "ready for release" - or do this the
> proper way on the tracker website, if you have the required permissions
> (basically do my job for me), then I would be really grateful.

Alan Pope recommended I post a “call for testing” on the Ubuntu Community 
Portal, so I’ll get on that. The more eyes, the better. :)

> I am loving all the noise on this list by the way - it is fantastic :-)
> 
> Ross
> 
> On 04/03/2018 09:39 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 18.04’s release is fast approaching, and Final Beta is literally 2 days 
>> away. With that in mind, what all needs to be done before either of these 
>> milestones? If there’s a lot to be done, we might end up hitting the beta 
>> late, but we really need to be pushing toward the release on April 26th
>> 
>> Granted, I’m a bit of a newcomer, but I really wish I had been involved 
>> sooner. Now that I’m here, I just want to help move us forward and get this 
>> going. Does anybody have a list of any pressing “to-do” items? If so, how 
>> can we facilitate this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Erich
>> 
>> 
>> 





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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-controls

[Erich Eickmeyer]

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 2:45 AM, Set Hallstrom  wrote:
> 
> On 2018-04-05 07:32, Len Ovens wrote:
>> Finally pushed though my blockage on this after almost a year... turns
>> out to be a cut and paste error mostly. The GUI can now talk to the daemon.
> 
> \o/ This is great news Len!! :)
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This is indeed great news. I think I would favor this over Cadence. What really 
sets Cadence apart is the Catia component (graphical patchbay), but I guess one 
could use Patchage for the same interface, even though it is out of 
development. Maybe it’s time to fork Patchage? I dunno…

Either way, this is really cool.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[Erich Eickmeyer]

On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:26 AM, eylul  wrote:
> 
> I will be there unless something unexpected comes up. :)
> Best
> 
> Eylul
> 
> On 04/05/2018 12:41 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>> On 2018-04-04 01:30, Thomas Pfundt wrote:
>>> On April 3, 2018 8:34 PM, Erich Eickmeyer  
>>> 
>>> wrote:
 Unfortunately. 10:00 (PDT) is a horrible time for me. I work for a
 church (specifically, audio & video production) and am eyeballs
 deep in services at that time. If there is another day at the same
 time, I’m pretty open for that.
>>> On April 3, 2018 9:23 PM, Len Ovens  
>>>  wrote:
 I am in a similar position, I need to be out the door 15-20 mins
 before that time and won't be back till 3 hours later at the
 earliest, 6 if my wife is working and needs to be picked up.
>>> Well, okay. That's not going to work out. How does Saturday sound,
>>> then? Same time?
>>> 
>> Saturdays are complicated for me. Sometimes it might work though, This
>> coming one is impossible. But it's OK, go ahead without me I'll read up
>> on the IRC log. :)
>> 
>> If only the newest members are present, it might give birth to funky
>> ideas and impossible stuff, but i still think it is a good way to get to
>> know each other and i'd rather see everyone go beyond the limits in
>> terms of brainstorming: it will help us identify said limits and explore
>> them. It is also my belief that it's easier to roll the rock back down
>> than it is to push it up. Either way, hopefully someone with more
>> experience will be able to attend.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

I shall also be there. I’ll keep funky ideas and impossible stuff to myself. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Len Ovens]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Thomas Pfundt wrote:

On April 4, 2018 8:10 PM, Ross Gammon  wrote: 
The release date is still tomorrow (Thurs 5th April) however. So 
everyone get testing! 


I downloaded the 64-bit ISO yesterday and gave it a spin. So far, I've 
had no major issues, but I noticed that the application-selection screen 
was missing from the installer.


So far as I know that would be a bug... however, the dev who created the 
chooser is gone and so far with a quick look through our seeds and 
ubiquity's logs/code I have not seen anything that has changed. Quite 
honestly I don't know where to start looking. I am not even sure if it was 
there in 17.10 (I have been quite inactive for some time).


Hmm, this looks like the code, not sure how this fits in though:
https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-live/trunk

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 4, 2018 8:10 PM, Ross Gammon  wrote: 
> The release date is still tomorrow (Thurs 5th April) however. So 
> everyone get testing! 
 
I downloaded the 64-bit ISO yesterday and gave it a spin. So far, I've had no 
major issues, but I noticed that the application-selection screen was missing 
from the installer. 
 
Is this some kind of bug or was it removed on purpose? I suppose it's not a 
devastating issue, but I used to deselect some programs that I definitely 
didn't use and missed that. 
 
I don't find anything on launchpad, should I report this as a bug? If yes, is 
it related to Ubuntu Studio or Ubiquity? 
 
I'll do some more testing on my installation later on. 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[eylul]

I will be there unless something unexpected comes up. :)

Best

Eylul


On 04/05/2018 12:41 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> On 2018-04-04 01:30, Thomas Pfundt wrote:
>> On April 3, 2018 8:34 PM, Erich Eickmeyer 
>> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately. 10:00 (PDT) is a horrible time for me. I work for a
>>> church (specifically, audio & video production) and am eyeballs
>>> deep in services at that time. If there is another day at the same
>>> time, I’m pretty open for that.
>> On April 3, 2018 9:23 PM, Len Ovens  wrote:
>>> I am in a similar position, I need to be out the door 15-20 mins
>>> before that time and won't be back till 3 hours later at the
>>> earliest, 6 if my wife is working and needs to be picked up.
>> Well, okay. That's not going to work out. How does Saturday sound,
>> then? Same time?
>>
> Saturdays are complicated for me. Sometimes it might work though, This
> coming one is impossible. But it's OK, go ahead without me I'll read up
> on the IRC log. :)
>
> If only the newest members are present, it might give birth to funky
> ideas and impossible stuff, but i still think it is a good way to get to
> know each other and i'd rather see everyone go beyond the limits in
> terms of brainstorming: it will help us identify said limits and explore
> them. It is also my belief that it's easier to roll the rock back down
> than it is to push it up. Either way, hopefully someone with more
> experience will be able to attend.
>
>
>



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Set Hallstrom]

Saved by the Ross! <3

On 2018-04-04 20:10, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Thanks Erich,
> 
> The images have been made available two days late - just now (and I 
> still haven't received the normal build notification for some
> reason): http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds
> 
> The release date is still tomorrow (Thurs 5th April) however. So 
> everyone get testing!
> 
> If someone wants to have a go at writing up the release notes on the 
> wiki, we need a Beta 2 Release Notes page created based on the last
> one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta2/UbuntuStudio Hold
> your hand up (volunteer here).

I'll try have this done today.

> 
> The release team will want the link for their "overall ubuntu"
> release notes (page not created yet): 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Beta2
> 
> If someone is volunteering to write a post about the release for the 
> website, also sing out!

I could probably have that post done tomorrow. Meanwhile I'll post a
quick call for testing on the social medias today.

> I am loving all the noise on this list by the way - it is fantastic
> :-)
> 
> Ross

Thank you for the heads up and the pepping! <3

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-controls

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2018-04-05 07:32, Len Ovens wrote:
> Finally pushed though my blockage on this after almost a year... turns
> out to be a cut and paste error mostly. The GUI can now talk to the daemon.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2018-04-04 01:30, Thomas Pfundt wrote:
> On April 3, 2018 8:34 PM, Erich Eickmeyer 
> wrote:
>> Unfortunately. 10:00 (PDT) is a horrible time for me. I work for a
>> church (specifically, audio & video production) and am eyeballs
>> deep in services at that time. If there is another day at the same
>> time, I’m pretty open for that.
> 
> On April 3, 2018 9:23 PM, Len Ovens  wrote:
>> I am in a similar position, I need to be out the door 15-20 mins
>> before that time and won't be back till 3 hours later at the
>> earliest, 6 if my wife is working and needs to be picked up.
> 
> Well, okay. That's not going to work out. How does Saturday sound,
> then? Same time?
> 

Saturdays are complicated for me. Sometimes it might work though, This
coming one is impossible. But it's OK, go ahead without me I'll read up
on the IRC log. :)

If only the newest members are present, it might give birth to funky
ideas and impossible stuff, but i still think it is a good way to get to
know each other and i'd rather see everyone go beyond the limits in
terms of brainstorming: it will help us identify said limits and explore
them. It is also my belief that it's easier to roll the rock back down
than it is to push it up. Either way, hopefully someone with more
experience will be able to attend.

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