Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-05 Thread jaquilina

There are the meta packages already no? (Kubuntu-desktop) for example.

Why not work with those to get the desktop environment sorted then along 
side that install the Studio meta package?


On 2018-10-05 17:35, Len Ovens wrote:

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, Ross Gammon wrote:


Is it not possible to install the kubuntu metapackage (or one of them)
on a Ubuntu Studio install and then chose the DE when logging in?

If that was possible, then we could add a new metapackage to our
ubuntustudio seeds that could be optionally installed, and then switch
the seeds to that metapackage once we are happy.


Probably some of us are just hard of thinking :) That would increase
the ISO size by the size of the plasma meta, though the resulting ISO
would probably still fit on a DVD (if those are still a thing). DL
time would go up yet a again. It would, at this point, be a next cycle
thing of course. We would need at least an optional -plasma-desktop
package, but more realistically we would need to split
-default-settings into -default-setting and -xfce-desktop (replace
"desktop" with "settings" if needed).

I guess it is possible for the plasma part to be dl and install during
ISO install rather than included on the ISO. So there might be a
default DE on the ISO, but at install time a different DE could be
selected. I do not know how to do that, but the installer already DL
and installes non-free packages so there must be a way.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-05 Thread Len Ovens

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, Ross Gammon wrote:


Is it not possible to install the kubuntu metapackage (or one of them)
on a Ubuntu Studio install and then chose the DE when logging in?

If that was possible, then we could add a new metapackage to our
ubuntustudio seeds that could be optionally installed, and then switch
the seeds to that metapackage once we are happy.


Probably some of us are just hard of thinking :) That would increase the 
ISO size by the size of the plasma meta, though the resulting ISO would 
probably still fit on a DVD (if those are still a thing). DL time would go 
up yet a again. It would, at this point, be a next cycle thing of course. 
We would need at least an optional -plasma-desktop package, but more 
realistically we would need to split -default-settings into 
-default-setting and -xfce-desktop (replace "desktop" with "settings" if 
needed).


I guess it is possible for the plasma part to be dl and install during ISO 
install rather than included on the ISO. So there might be a default DE on 
the ISO, but at install time a different DE could be selected. I do not 
know how to do that, but the installer already DL and installes non-free 
packages so there must be a way.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-05 Thread Ross Gammon
Is it not possible to install the kubuntu metapackage (or one of them)
on a Ubuntu Studio install and then chose the DE when logging in?

If that was possible, then we could add a new metapackage to our
ubuntustudio seeds that could be optionally installed, and then switch
the seeds to that metapackage once we are happy.

I have never understood the need for the extra ISO. Is it so we can
offer an install for both DE's, or is there some setting that can only
be made at install time?

On 10/03/2018 07:07 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> To answer the initial question, Plasma will not be installable from an
> ISO, but will be available in the repositories. Unfortunately spinning a
> new iso for Plasma has proven to be time prohibitive, so a direction
> that is being considered is to add a meta package to a Kubuntu install
> to convert it into Ubuntu Studio (and have metapackages available to
> convert other flavors as well). Yes, that adds an extra step, but it’s
> the most logical solution considering our manpower and time allotment.
> 
> Erich
> 
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> *From:* 20104043740n behalf of
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> It would be interesting to have end users choose which DE they want. as
> it stands everyone one has their own preferene I prefer KDE others on
> this list like gnome.
> 
> Regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> On 2018-10-03 15:31, Charlie wrote:
>> will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of
>> 18.10 or will it be offered later? or will it be an option during
>> installation?
>>
>> Charlie Luna
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