Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] MuseScore 4

2023-02-17 Thread Dr. Stewart Thompson
Musescore is now only available as an Appimage and isn't as well supported as 
previously on Linux, it's missing some features from the Windows and MacOS 
versions. So it can't cause too much trouble to a system but I'm not sure how 
much help you would get compared to the past as a lot of users I know jumped 
ship when that happened. It had always been on an equal footing before. 

On 17 February 2023 15:33:03 GMT, Ross Gammon  
wrote:
>Hi Paul,
>
>Just to be clear. It is possible to package Musescore 4 in Ubuntu (without 
>waiting for Debian), and maybe put it in a ppa. But that would require 
>somebody with the necessary time and skills to volunteer.
>
>Installing stuff from upstream (from the musecore website) can be risky, 
>especially if you are running an older Ubuntu release. There could be 
>incompatibilities in the version of libraries that Musescore 4 relies on. Will 
>upstream support you in this case? Ubuntu certainly cannot support you. If you 
>are desperate to use Musescore 4 (you cannot wait for Debian), then I would 
>ask around if anyone has had success using the upstream version of Musescore 4 
>on your version of Ubuntu before doing it. Otherwise you may have to uninstall 
>it later and clean up any mess yourself.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ross
>
>On 14.02.2023 23.02, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so 
>> "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if 
>> they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or 
>> unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit.
>> 
>> Furthermore, that package comes unchanged from Debian, which means there 
>> isn't an Ubuntu developer that touches it. So, this is really up to if 
>> Debian picks it up, but then it will only land in a later release. 
>> Additionally, Debian is coming up on their bi-yearly freeze in which they 
>> begin their release process for their next version, so there's probably not 
>> a whole lot of activity to be happening until later this year once that 
>> freeze starts.
>> 
>> All of that to say it's entirely out of our hands at this point on the 
>> Ubuntu Studio level as we're not the ones dealing with it; we're just 
>> putting it on the .iso image.
>> 
>> I hope you understand and I hope that helps.
>> 
>> --
>> Erich Eickmeyer
>> Project Leader
>> Ubuntu Studio
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 14 2023 at 01:05:32 PM -08:00:00, Paul DeShaw 
>>  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> Are there any plans to put the latest MuseScore version into the 
>>> repository? Or should I just install it directly from musescore.org 
>>> ? I'm running last year's LTS--it's gotten so slow 
>>> and glitchy I am reluctant to upgrade--so maybe that's why Synaptic isn't 
>>> showing the latest MuseScore.
>>> 
>>> ~PD
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] MuseScore 4

2023-02-17 Thread Ross Gammon

Hi Paul,

Just to be clear. It is possible to package Musescore 4 in Ubuntu 
(without waiting for Debian), and maybe put it in a ppa. But that would 
require somebody with the necessary time and skills to volunteer.


Installing stuff from upstream (from the musecore website) can be risky, 
especially if you are running an older Ubuntu release. There could be 
incompatibilities in the version of libraries that Musescore 4 relies 
on. Will upstream support you in this case? Ubuntu certainly cannot 
support you. If you are desperate to use Musescore 4 (you cannot wait 
for Debian), then I would ask around if anyone has had success using the 
upstream version of Musescore 4 on your version of Ubuntu before doing 
it. Otherwise you may have to uninstall it later and clean up any mess 
yourself.


Regards,

Ross

On 14.02.2023 23.02, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

Hi Paul,

Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, 
so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only 
considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact 
bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit.


Furthermore, that package comes unchanged from Debian, which means 
there isn't an Ubuntu developer that touches it. So, this is really up 
to if Debian picks it up, but then it will only land in a later 
release. Additionally, Debian is coming up on their bi-yearly freeze 
in which they begin their release process for their next version, so 
there's probably not a whole lot of activity to be happening until 
later this year once that freeze starts.


All of that to say it's entirely out of our hands at this point on the 
Ubuntu Studio level as we're not the ones dealing with it; we're just 
putting it on the .iso image.


I hope you understand and I hope that helps.

--
Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader
Ubuntu Studio


On Tue, Feb 14 2023 at 01:05:32 PM -08:00:00, Paul DeShaw 
 wrote:

Greetings,

Are there any plans to put the latest MuseScore version into the 
repository? Or should I just install it directly from musescore.org 
? I'm running last year's LTS--it's gotten so 
slow and glitchy I am reluctant to upgrade--so maybe that's why 
Synaptic isn't showing the latest MuseScore.


~PD
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check

2023-02-17 Thread noreply+ubuntu-cdimage
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images.
If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson .

ubuntustudio/dvd: jammy-dvd-amd64.iso oversized by 118181376 bytes (5118181376)
ubuntustudio/dvd: lunar-dvd-amd64.iso oversized by 2117888 bytes (5502117888)

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