Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 13:53:07 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>Radio amateurs take this to the extreme, they used flat-out clipping
>followed by aggressive filtration to limit frequency range as far back
>as the early 1960's. This gives understandable but not natural
>sounding speech, and can be equivalent to almost ten times more
>transmitter power. That combined with huge antennas allows a 100W
>transmitter on SW to talk halfway around the world when a 50,000 watt
>broadcast setup can have dead spots 5 miles from the antenna.

Btw. there's Linux software available for "Moonbounce or
Earth-Moon-Earth (EME) is a way of communicating by reflecting radio
signals from the Moon between two suitably equipped stations." -
http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=Moonbounce_%28EME%29_Scheduling_%28Sked%29_and_tracking_software

The radio link also mentions Marble.

IMO Marble could be used to describe the difference between Linux for
special tasks and what's expected by averaged users.

The idea of Marbel is very good, an enthusiasts will appreciate Marbel.
A user that expects an alternative to Street View in Google Earth
unlikely will use Marbel as a replacement.

IMO this is applicable for Linux audio compared to Non-Linux audio
alternatives. Perhaps the target group for PR and what is provided
by Ubuntu Studio should be enthusiasts and not the averaged computer
user.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Antoine Thomas
Think to installer cups-pdf and you have a pdf printer for all apps.
Le 7 sept. 2015 18:46, "Ralf Mardorf"  a écrit :

> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 10:35:17 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> >libreoffice
>
> Thank you,
>
> it's my thought too, to use something I'm used to and than to export to
> a PDF. One issue is that I've got scanned certificates, but I guess
> I can send several PDFs and assumed everything should be in one PDF,
> IIRC I once used a command line tool to merge PDFs.
>
> If I type "pdf" in a terminal and then press the tab-key, I get several
> tools.
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote:
> >I have used the print to pdf feature for web pages I have some
> >interest in that may dissapear (I learned that web sites do vanish in
> >time). They have included various graphics that show in the pdf also.
> >I do not knknow if evince will allow editing of a pdf form as well
> >becasue I don't remember trying. pdf forms have been around a while
> >though.
>
> That's what I often do. In former times I printed websites I wanted to
> read without sitting in front of my computer. Nowadays I use the
> browser's print option to get PDFs and then I use my iPad as a reader. I
> just read those PDFs and I guess they aren't editable. I guess it's
> impossible to copy and paste, IIRC those PDF texts are pictures, not
> text.
>
>
> >Mobile phone means "I am willing to be bugged no matter what I am
> >doing." That is the kind of worker they are looking for.
>
> But those workers with mobile phones who are always reachable for the
> employer OTOH misuse their smart phones 3/4 of the working time and
> just work 1/4 of the time. I remember a funny situation when I put
> together a trampoline for kids. To mount the frame two hands are not
> enough, but less people are able to assist with a free hand, because
> they need their hands for the smart phones.
>
> Btw. more than 20 years ago I had a girlfriend that gave her employer
> my landline phone number. She aborted vacation for several hours to
> boot up a computer. It wasn't a real case of emergency, it was a case
> of bollocks. Nobody was able to press a button.
>
> >Any Linux App that can print can also save to pdf.
>
> Thanks, I wasn't sure that all apps are able to do this.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread lukefromdc
That is so true! For years I used Audacity in UbuntuStudio to make radio pieces
about exactly that sort of thing. Someone mentioned the "loudness wars," well
you would not believe how much compression is needed for a low powered station
(especially AM) when there is no analog compressor/limiter in the line to the 
transmitter! The maximum level is controlled easily enough by the master volume
but without boatloads of compression you can lose half your broadcast range.

Radio amateurs take this to the extreme, they used flat-out clipping followed 
by 
aggressive filtration to limit frequency range as far back as the early 1960's. 
This 
gives understandable but not natural sounding speech, and can be equivalent to 
almost ten times more transmitter power. That combined with huge antennas
allows a 100W transmitter on SW to talk halfway around the world when a 50,000
watt broadcast setup can have dead spots 5 miles from the antenna.

On 9/7/2015 at 6:06 AM, "Ralf Mardorf"  wrote:
>
>Off-topic, but a topic of uproar and hypocrisy.
>
>On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>>I was planning to do that this weekend (but ended up creating
>>web site and wiki for a refugee initiative instead).
>
>That's good and more important then another Linux website.
>
>A banker, a yellow press reader and a refugee have to portion 20
>cookies. The banker captures 19 cookies and says to the yellow 
>press
>reader that he should take care, the refugee might want to steel 
>the
>remaining cookie.
>
>I need to vent, it's off-topic, but I don't care, I'll include a
>software request ;). I'm writing applications for jobs to help 
>refugees.
>Those jobs aren't full jobs, they are badly paid, impermanent,
>insecure, since there's no social protection. Such work be held in 
>low
>esteem and a lot of people, including me, aren't allowed to upgrade
>one's education. Since I'm an atheist it's even hard to get such a 
>job,
>requirement usually is to believe in God. Church tax in Germany is 
>not
>used for social work, for this work church gets additional money,
>church tax is just to increase wealth of the church that isn't 
>shared
>with people in need. Weapons dealers and bankers from our European
>countries OTOH be held in high esteem, are rolling in money, have
>nothing to worry, since they are living in social security, 
>although
>they are responsible for the circumstances. If the weapon dealer 
>and
>bankers do bad jobs, they get money from the folk to rescue them. 
>Those
>who beliefe in a god should consider what kind of idiot this god 
>must
>be. European politician btw. can do what they want, they get money 
>and
>social security for their whole life, if they "worked" as 
>politician
>for a short time. The "work" often is just to sign some attendance
>register from time to time.
>
>However, is there some PDF software to issue a PDF application? 
>IOW to
>add a photo to the personal data sheet etc., without the need to 
>read
>user manuals for hours? PDFs are requirements for applications and 
>most
>of the times a mobile phone number is another requirement, landline
>(that's what I've got) often isn't accepted. Too funny, since many
>Germans dislike poor people who own mobile phones. It's a status
>symbol, a very strange status symbole, since it's easy to get it. 
>For
>many Germans it's really a problem if refugees own mobile phones. 
>That's
>strange since this is one of the few things everybody, even the 
>poorest
>human easily can own in Germany. I don't have one because I dislike
>mobile phones, they aren't expensive, but they are an evil sign of 
>the
>times.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 10:35:17 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
>libreoffice

Thank you,

it's my thought too, to use something I'm used to and than to export to
a PDF. One issue is that I've got scanned certificates, but I guess
I can send several PDFs and assumed everything should be in one PDF,
IIRC I once used a command line tool to merge PDFs.

If I type "pdf" in a terminal and then press the tab-key, I get several
tools.

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote:
>I have used the print to pdf feature for web pages I have some
>interest in that may dissapear (I learned that web sites do vanish in
>time). They have included various graphics that show in the pdf also.
>I do not knknow if evince will allow editing of a pdf form as well
>becasue I don't remember trying. pdf forms have been around a while
>though.

That's what I often do. In former times I printed websites I wanted to
read without sitting in front of my computer. Nowadays I use the
browser's print option to get PDFs and then I use my iPad as a reader. I
just read those PDFs and I guess they aren't editable. I guess it's
impossible to copy and paste, IIRC those PDF texts are pictures, not
text.


>Mobile phone means "I am willing to be bugged no matter what I am
>doing." That is the kind of worker they are looking for.

But those workers with mobile phones who are always reachable for the
employer OTOH misuse their smart phones 3/4 of the working time and
just work 1/4 of the time. I remember a funny situation when I put
together a trampoline for kids. To mount the frame two hands are not
enough, but less people are able to assist with a free hand, because
they need their hands for the smart phones.

Btw. more than 20 years ago I had a girlfriend that gave her employer
my landline phone number. She aborted vacation for several hours to
boot up a computer. It wasn't a real case of emergency, it was a case
of bollocks. Nobody was able to press a button.

>Any Linux App that can print can also save to pdf.

Thanks, I wasn't sure that all apps are able to do this.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Len Ovens

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Mike Holstein wrote:


On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:
  Off-topic, but a topic of uproar and hypocrisy.


The off topic stuff mostly deleted, though interesting.


  However, is there some PDF software to issue a PDF application?


All Linux software that can print, can also print to a pdf. This is a part 
of CUPS rather than the application itself. Some applications can also 
export to PDF directly.


However, I am wondering if you are talking about PDFs with forms? My wife 
has had a few of those and as she uses Kubuntu, She used Ocular (I think) 
to fill them out before printing them or emailing them.



  add a photo to the personal data sheet etc., without the need to


I don't recall any of those forms needing a photo, but if you are 
attaching it to your CV made in a word processor, the print to pdf should 
render the photo just fine. I have used the print to pdf feature for web 
pages I have some interest in that may dissapear (I learned that web sites 
do vanish in time). They have included various graphics that show in the 
pdf also. I do not knknow if evince will allow editing of a pdf form as 
well becasue I don't remember trying. pdf forms have been around a while 
though.



  user manuals for hours? PDFs are requirements for applications


As I said, just select print, then when selecting the printer select, 
select print to file.


Mobile phone means "I am willing to be bugged no matter what I am doing." 
That is the kind of worker they are looking for.



you can export pdf from most applications. the issue is, when one wants to
edit, easily, that pdf, when, we are not promised that with the pdf format,


There are pdf forms (see above) that Canadian gov sites and others make 
downloadable. They can still be printed and hand filled, but also computer 
filled and resaved and emailed or printed.


And Also above, Any Linux App that can print can also save to pdf.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Mike Holstein
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> Off-topic, but a topic of uproar and hypocrisy.
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> >I was planning to do that this weekend (but ended up creating
> >web site and wiki for a refugee initiative instead).
>
> That's good and more important then another Linux website.
>
> A banker, a yellow press reader and a refugee have to portion 20
> cookies. The banker captures 19 cookies and says to the yellow press
> reader that he should take care, the refugee might want to steel the
> remaining cookie.
>
> I need to vent, it's off-topic, but I don't care, I'll include a
> software request ;). I'm writing applications for jobs to help refugees.
> Those jobs aren't full jobs, they are badly paid, impermanent,
> insecure, since there's no social protection. Such work be held in low
> esteem and a lot of people, including me, aren't allowed to upgrade
> one's education. Since I'm an atheist it's even hard to get such a job,
> requirement usually is to believe in God. Church tax in Germany is not
> used for social work, for this work church gets additional money,
> church tax is just to increase wealth of the church that isn't shared
> with people in need. Weapons dealers and bankers from our European
> countries OTOH be held in high esteem, are rolling in money, have
> nothing to worry, since they are living in social security, although
> they are responsible for the circumstances. If the weapon dealer and
> bankers do bad jobs, they get money from the folk to rescue them. Those
> who beliefe in a god should consider what kind of idiot this god must
> be. European politician btw. can do what they want, they get money and
> social security for their whole life, if they "worked" as politician
> for a short time. The "work" often is just to sign some attendance
> register from time to time.
>
> However, is there some PDF software to issue a PDF application? IOW to
> add a photo to the personal data sheet etc., without the need to read
> user manuals for hours? PDFs are requirements for applications and most
> of the times a mobile phone number is another requirement, landline
> (that's what I've got) often isn't accepted. Too funny, since many
> Germans dislike poor people who own mobile phones. It's a status
> symbol, a very strange status symbole, since it's easy to get it. For
> many Germans it's really a problem if refugees own mobile phones. That's
> strange since this is one of the few things everybody, even the poorest
> human easily can own in Germany. I don't have one because I dislike
> mobile phones, they aren't expensive, but they are an evil sign of the
> times.
>


you can export pdf from most applications. the issue is, when one wants to
edit, easily, that pdf, when, we are not promised that with the pdf format,
since, it is not open, and not providing an easily editable document for
anyone to edit so, what do i do? i create the item in something i prefer,
like libreoffice, and save the open document there, so, i can open, edit,
share, import, export.. whatever i need to do. then, when i need a pdf, i
export the item, from within libreoffice, to pdf. if i need to edit the
pdf, i dont.. i go back to my saved original in the open format, and export
to pdf again.

since, im assuming these sheets are short? 1 page or 2? i would probably
just copy paste the text into libreoffice, and start reformatting from
scratch, saving the open format, and being able to export any revision to
pdf, and edit the item as needed, in the future.

there is also http://askubuntu.com/questions/162037/how-to-edit-pdfs , but,
i have found, in the past, it can depend on how the original item was
created, as to what can be edited. i find it much easier, on smaller items,
such as a page or 2, to just reformat, and then i have it in the open
format i prefer. i can also request a more open format from the document
creator.


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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Off-topic: Elementary OS

2015-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Off-topic, but a topic of uproar and hypocrisy.

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>I was planning to do that this weekend (but ended up creating
>web site and wiki for a refugee initiative instead).

That's good and more important then another Linux website.

A banker, a yellow press reader and a refugee have to portion 20
cookies. The banker captures 19 cookies and says to the yellow press
reader that he should take care, the refugee might want to steel the
remaining cookie.

I need to vent, it's off-topic, but I don't care, I'll include a
software request ;). I'm writing applications for jobs to help refugees.
Those jobs aren't full jobs, they are badly paid, impermanent,
insecure, since there's no social protection. Such work be held in low
esteem and a lot of people, including me, aren't allowed to upgrade
one's education. Since I'm an atheist it's even hard to get such a job,
requirement usually is to believe in God. Church tax in Germany is not
used for social work, for this work church gets additional money,
church tax is just to increase wealth of the church that isn't shared
with people in need. Weapons dealers and bankers from our European
countries OTOH be held in high esteem, are rolling in money, have
nothing to worry, since they are living in social security, although
they are responsible for the circumstances. If the weapon dealer and
bankers do bad jobs, they get money from the folk to rescue them. Those
who beliefe in a god should consider what kind of idiot this god must
be. European politician btw. can do what they want, they get money and
social security for their whole life, if they "worked" as politician
for a short time. The "work" often is just to sign some attendance
register from time to time.

However, is there some PDF software to issue a PDF application? IOW to
add a photo to the personal data sheet etc., without the need to read
user manuals for hours? PDFs are requirements for applications and most
of the times a mobile phone number is another requirement, landline
(that's what I've got) often isn't accepted. Too funny, since many
Germans dislike poor people who own mobile phones. It's a status
symbol, a very strange status symbole, since it's easy to get it. For
many Germans it's really a problem if refugees own mobile phones. That's
strange since this is one of the few things everybody, even the poorest
human easily can own in Germany. I don't have one because I dislike
mobile phones, they aren't expensive, but they are an evil sign of the
times.

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