Re: New seeds
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 01:15:22PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:43:37PM EST, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:49:11PM -0800, Len Ovens wrote: > > > Took a look at the need seed files. Looks good. > > > > > > A few notable miss > > > - cdrdao (this may get pulled in by basero but is important enough to > > > get listed outright) > > > > It does: > > > > $ apt-cache show brasero > > ... > > Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.2.0-0ubuntu6) [...] > > > > $ apt-cache rdepends cdrdao > > cdrdao > > Reverse Depends: > > ... > > libbrasero-media3-1 [...] > > Yes, but if you look at the full output of apt-cache show libbrasero-media3-1 > | grep cdrdao, you get: > > Suggests: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, cdrdao > > So no, cdrdao is not on the studio images. Interesting. Am I using the tools wrong, or is the output misleading? -- Jaska signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New seeds
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:43:37PM EST, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:49:11PM -0800, Len Ovens wrote: > > Took a look at the need seed files. Looks good. > > > > A few notable miss > > - cdrdao (this may get pulled in by basero but is important enough to > > get listed outright) > > It does: > > $ apt-cache show brasero > ... > Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.2.0-0ubuntu6) [...] > > $ apt-cache rdepends cdrdao > cdrdao > Reverse Depends: > ... > libbrasero-media3-1 [...] Yes, but if you look at the full output of apt-cache show libbrasero-media3-1 | grep cdrdao, you get: Suggests: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, cdrdao So no, cdrdao is not on the studio images. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New seeds
On Wed, January 18, 2012 11:43 pm, Janne Jokitalo wrote: >> A few notable miss >> - cdrdao (this may get pulled in by basero but is important enough to >> get listed outright) > > It does: > > $ apt-cache show brasero > ... > Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.2.0-0ubuntu6) [...] > > $ apt-cache rdepends cdrdao > cdrdao > Reverse Depends: > ... > libbrasero-media3-1 [...] I thought so, and the K3b we are talking to replace it probably does too. My thought is that cdrdao is important enough that it should be part of our spec. Gcdmaster is old and hasn't been updated for a long time. We have at least for now, lost it because of that. Cdrdao is in the same boat as it hasn't been updated for over two years now either... it needs to be in front of us as a requirement so that it has a chance of being maintained in the long run. Otherwise two years down the road we may not have it. Hopefully brasero and k3b will keep it alive. >> - a2jmidid (I thought this was included, but it looks like it is >> something I unwittingly added with jack-keyboard) This becomes a must as >> there are midi applications that talk only alsa and some only jackd. A2j >> (alsa to jackd bridge) allows them all to work together. Without it >> vkeybd can't control yoshimi, for example. [...] > > Ok, good call. I'll add it to the audio seed. > >> I assume this is a transition setup. Thunar, gvfs-fuse, gigolo, >> ristretto, >> etc. will go away? > > I don't understand this. Why should they go away? Thunar is the default > file > manager in Xubuntu. We're basing our DE on Xubuntu. Nautilus has been added, why have both? We are using Xfce as session manager but I got the idea we were not stuck with using all the xfce apps. I could be wrong though... if that is the case and thunar is going to be our file manager then we are missing gvfs-backends still, making thunar and gigolo broken. >> New kernel can't be added till in repos. > > What's this about? Scott just uploaded the -low-latency package (kindly Sorry, I wasn't clear. I should have said that I expect the new kernel to show up soon but realize it was not ready just yet which would explain why generic is still there. So not having the new kernel is not a bug, but in progress. > There will be big changes soon, so keep watching the development. Alpha-2 > is > looming, and we want lots of stuff done by that. There is an editor (+1) and a calendar (+1) and other things are showing too. Basically I'm happy with the progress I see. I'll download the changes when they come out and try it. even if not finished I may find something missing. > Thanks for the update, though! We need to generate some weight on the > lists as > well, so people not on IRC get informed too. I try... I am thinking it would be nice to have a set of test files to try out these apps on. some wavs some pictures, some videos. and some things to try and do with them as tests. Then add one newly recorded item as well... Should I have so much time. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: New seeds
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:49:11PM -0800, Len Ovens wrote: > Took a look at the need seed files. Looks good. > > A few notable miss > - cdrdao (this may get pulled in by basero but is important enough to > get listed outright) It does: $ apt-cache show brasero ... Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.2.0-0ubuntu6) [...] $ apt-cache rdepends cdrdao cdrdao Reverse Depends: ... libbrasero-media3-1 [...] > - a2jmidid (I thought this was included, but it looks like it is > something I unwittingly added with jack-keyboard) This becomes a must as > there are midi applications that talk only alsa and some only jackd. A2j > (alsa to jackd bridge) allows them all to work together. Without it > vkeybd can't control yoshimi, for example. [...] Ok, good call. I'll add it to the audio seed. > I assume this is a transition setup. Thunar, gvfs-fuse, gigolo, ristretto, > etc. will go away? I don't understand this. Why should they go away? Thunar is the default file manager in Xubuntu. We're basing our DE on Xubuntu. If you wanna talk about app selection, please do add an agenda item in one of the future meetings (the next one is this Sunday, 22nd of January). > New kernel can't be added till in repos. What's this about? Scott just uploaded the -low-latency package (kindly provided by abogani) to REVU, and while it hadn't appeared at the time of writing this message, there's no reason for it to not make it in time for the release. > Looks good otherwise. I will try to test it and see if anything is broken. There will be big changes soon, so keep watching the development. Alpha-2 is looming, and we want lots of stuff done by that. Thanks for the update, though! We need to generate some weight on the lists as well, so people not on IRC get informed too. -- Jaska (aka astraljava @ irc.freenode.net) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
New seeds
Took a look at the need seed files. Looks good. A few notable miss - cdrdao (this may get pulled in by basero but is important enough to get listed outright) - a2jmidid (I thought this was included, but it looks like it is something I unwittingly added with jack-keyboard) This becomes a must as there are midi applications that talk only alsa and some only jackd. A2j (alsa to jackd bridge) allows them all to work together. Without it vkeybd can't control yoshimi, for example. The seq option in jackd does this but is very hard to use because on the jack side they are only numbered not named. A2j has names. It would also make sense to have this started when ever jackd is. Or at least create a (well named) desktop file for the user to do so. Ardour3 may not make 12.04, but comes out soon enough after that people will use it. Ardour3 uses jackd midi and will not be able to drive some of the sound generators without bridging. - note to self add a midi section to docs. I assume this is a transition setup. Thunar, gvfs-fuse, gigolo, ristretto, etc. will go away? New kernel can't be added till in repos. Looks good otherwise. I will try to test it and see if anything is broken. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
