Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
Cory K. wrote: laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. ... The reasoning for us not creating a live disk is 2-fold. Live disks do not preform well for audio. (our core audience) 2 more disks to test where our testing is already very poor. And a 3rd one, resources. ie: diskspace on Canonical servers. I will also say I'm generally against this. But if it happens after the LTS and is what people really want, I won't be a roadblock. ** I'm still lost as to what the whole point of this is. I mean, Ubuntu Studio is targeted towards Audio, Video and Graphic Professionals. And any professional who uses US for their work and takes their work seriously is not going to run US from a live dvd/cd or any live mode as a matter of fact. Why? Because the performance os a live installation simply doesn't and will never compare to that of a raw install running directly from a hard disk. Cheers. -- Chris Jones linuxdyna...@comcen.com.au Founder Linux Dynamix Foundation http://linuxdynamixfoundation.freehostia.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
Cory K. wrote: laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. ... The reasoning for us not creating a live disk is 2-fold. Live disks do not preform well for audio. (our core audience) 2 more disks to test where our testing is already very poor. And a 3rd one, resources. ie: diskspace on Canonical servers. I will also say I'm generally against this. But if it happens after the LTS and is what people really want, I won't be a roadblock. As an alternative to the creation of a liveDVD, perhaps we could document a procedure by which users could install to USB, to create a portable distribution. Yes this requires a fairly high-capacity USB device, and yes, performance will be lower than with a proper installation, but it would address many of the use cases for a liveDVD (demos, quick-reboot software availability comparison, hardware support chedk, using preferred tools on borrowed machines, etc.) without quite as much overhead for runtime (no unionised filesystem, no casper session, etc.), development (no ubiquity support, no base-installer tweaking, no increased testing requirements, no livecd-rootfs work, etc.), or hosting (no new images on the servers, no additional load on livefs builders, etc.). Additionally, such a mechanism would impose only a small additional support effort (how to install to USB, how to wipe an installation off a flash device and return to convential FAT16), which may allow it to be completed for the LTS. I'm not sure if it is current, but I know there was once similar documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki regarding how to do that for Ubuntu Desktop (which I can't find right now), so this might be a burden that can be shared generally with the Documentation team. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: Hi all. With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a trouble. The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but live, without all forbidden packages to allow everyone to download it ? Is it allowed to create it ? If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable. Thank's for answers. Laurent, lprod.org -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Hi Laurent, This is wonderful news, this is a feature request that we get on a regular basis from our users but the dev team is not experienced in the creation of LiveDVDs. It'd be great if this effort could be moved into the Ubuntu Studio development process so that future releases have live capabilities. I'm CCing the dev list on this and I hope that the discussion continues there. Please consider joining that list to facilitate the discussion there. To answer your question regarding packages, the full list of packages (including dependencies) can be seen at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=defaultsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=ubuntustudio - Eric Hedekar -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
On 12/07/2009 02:50 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: Hi all. With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a trouble. The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but live, without all forbidden packages to allow everyone to download it ? Is it allowed to create it ? If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable Hi Laurent, This is wonderful news, this is a feature request that we get on a regular basis from our users but the dev team is not experienced in the creation of LiveDVDs. It'd be great if this effort could be moved into the Ubuntu Studio development process so that future releases have live capabilities. I'm CCing the dev list on this and I hope that the discussion continues there. Please consider joining that list to facilitate the discussion there. To answer your question regarding packages, the full list of packages (including dependencies) can be seen at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=defaultsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=ubuntustudio I would say I'm not for this on a LTS release. The reasoning for us not creating a live disk is 2-fold. * Live disks do not preform well for audio. (our core audience) * 2 more disks to test where our testing is already very poor. * And a 3rd one, resources. ie: diskspace on Canonical servers. I will also say I'm generally against this. But if it happens after the LTS and is what people really want, I won't be a roadblock. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
