Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 12:14 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme The wallpapers are ok :). Perhaps they are sexist :D? FWIW I tried to edit a XFCE theme myself, until now without success. I also tried to include some new icons, with limited success. Editing XFCE seems to be limited, even when editing files directly. I want to adjust some light seems to my taste and I want to make a dark theme that does work with all applications. I couldn't find a dark XFCE theme that does work with all GNOME apps, there always is something invisible for dark themes. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:14:06 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: = Art Contributors Needed = This is on a very short notice, since we're only about a month away from release (all though, we don't actually know yet if there will be a 13.04 release right now). We need to at least change the wallpaper. So, any contributions or suggestions are welcome. = Carbon Theme = While I was looking through what we had, I got inspired by a background made by Cory, and started working on one of my own. It started out as a wallpaper, but grew on to become a beginning for a theme. Not being a graphic artist, there are limitations to what I can do, but I was rather pleased with the results, so I would like to propose my (still in development) carbon theme for proposal. Any feedback would be appreciated. So far I've created a wallpaper, and a cover suitable for our G+ page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme There's an icon there, which could potentially be used for other things too. = Rock Theme = The Carbon pattern wallpapers need much more work. They don't fit well on a desktop currently. I tried out other patterns, and found this one to work better (egg shell). I've made two variants that I think work well. Now the light should be much better balanced as well. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/RockTheme -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
BTW do we want to make the theme plymouth-ized too? smartboyhw 2013/3/10 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:14:06 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: = Art Contributors Needed = This is on a very short notice, since we're only about a month away from release (all though, we don't actually know yet if there will be a 13.04 release right now). We need to at least change the wallpaper. So, any contributions or suggestions are welcome. = Carbon Theme = While I was looking through what we had, I got inspired by a background made by Cory, and started working on one of my own. It started out as a wallpaper, but grew on to become a beginning for a theme. Not being a graphic artist, there are limitations to what I can do, but I was rather pleased with the results, so I would like to propose my (still in development) carbon theme for proposal. Any feedback would be appreciated. So far I've created a wallpaper, and a cover suitable for our G+ page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UbuntuStudio/Artwork/**CarbonThemehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme There's an icon there, which could potentially be used for other things too. = Rock Theme = The Carbon pattern wallpapers need much more work. They don't fit well on a desktop currently. I tried out other patterns, and found this one to work better (egg shell). I've made two variants that I think work well. Now the light should be much better balanced as well. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UbuntuStudio/Artwork/RockThemehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/RockTheme -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-develhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:22:15 +0100, Ho Wan Chan smartbo...@gmail.com wrote:BTW do we want to make the theme plymouth-ized too?smartboyhwI'm fine with the current one-- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:20:46 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: = Rock Theme = The Carbon pattern wallpapers need much more work. They don't fit well on a desktop currently. I tried out other patterns, and found this one to work better (egg shell). I've made two variants that I think work well. Now the light should be much better balanced as well. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/RockTheme I've been looking for other alternatives, but haven't found anything I liked. I would rather have something better than what I did, but if we can't find anything else, I'll want us to go with one of the above. To be clear, I just want to change the wallpaper for the coming release, nothing else. We can discuss changing other things, but the work that goes into that is more than we can handle before release, I think. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Sun, March 10, 2013 6:37 am, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:22:15 +0100, Ho Wan Chan smartbo...@gmail.com wrote: BTW do we want to make the theme plymouth-ized too? smartboyhw I'm fine with the current one-- I'm fine with that too. Maybe next LTS, but plymouth is becoming less of a concern as things are booting so fast on modern machines. The only time we see it is when booting from ISO. Also if MIR shows up by then it is a whole new struggle. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
Plymouth is also seen and for a much longer period by those booting encrypted systems. Are there enough people combining ubuntustudio and encryption to worry about that, or not? On 03/10/2013 at 11:36 AM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: On Sun, March 10, 2013 6:37 am, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:22:15 +0100, Ho Wan Chan smartbo...@gmail.com wrote: BTW do we want to make the theme plymouth-ized too? smartboyhw I'm fine with the current one-- I'm fine with that too. Maybe next LTS, but plymouth is becoming less of a concern as things are booting so fast on modern machines. The only time we see it is when booting from ISO. Also if MIR shows up by then it is a whole new struggle. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Rock Theme, Was. Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Sun, March 10, 2013 10:57 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Plymouth is also seen and for a much longer period by those booting encrypted systems. Are there enough people combining ubuntustudio and encryption to worry about that, or not? No worries, plymouth is not going away. We are merely not spending the time to make any changes to it for 13.04 -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 12:14 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme The wallpapers are ok :). Perhaps they are sexist :D? FWIW I tried to edit a XFCE theme myself, until now without success. I also tried to include some new icons, with limited success. Editing XFCE seems to be limited, even when editing files directly. I want to adjust some light seems to my taste and I want to make a dark theme that does work with all applications. I couldn't find a dark XFCE theme that does work with all GNOME apps, there always is something invisible for dark themes. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:28:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 12:14 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme The wallpapers are ok :). Perhaps they are sexist :D? There's always that danger :), but I'm feeling pretty safe. The background is too dark though. I'll fix that. FWIW I tried to edit a XFCE theme myself, until now without success. I also tried to include some new icons, with limited success. Editing XFCE seems to be limited, even when editing files directly. I want to adjust some light seems to my taste and I want to make a dark theme that does work with all applications. I couldn't find a dark XFCE theme that does work with all GNOME apps, there always is something invisible for dark themes. Len has been working on our icons for the menu, so he should know how that stuff works. When working on the wallpapers, I started thinking about all the art we've had in the past. I think I'd like to work at creating some sort of unified theme for whatever will be the next release after 13.04, and base that theming on much of the stuff we already have. A simple way to achieve that would be to follow the same recipe Ubuntu uses for its artwork. * symbol (we have our own) * logo (using the Ubuntu font, as all flavors are doing) * background pattern (Ubuntu has their own, we have one for our website background, and the carbon wallpaper also uses one) My ambition would be to create a unified look for the release after 13.04, using those three components. A great plus with that setup is that you can easily update the look, and still keep consistency. Would be nice to get some artists to help us with that, if that is something we'd like to achieve. Additionally, it would be interesting to look at the XFCE theming, to see what Ubuntu Studio users prefers, and usually there are two ideals: a light theme and a dark theme. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
Simple, clean, beautiful. Could you put some screenshot of the carbon theme you are working on ? Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2013/3/8 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me = Art Contributors Needed = This is on a very short notice, since we're only about a month away from release (all though, we don't actually know yet if there will be a 13.04 release right now). We need to at least change the wallpaper. So, any contributions or suggestions are welcome. = Carbon Theme = While I was looking through what we had, I got inspired by a background made by Cory, and started working on one of my own. It started out as a wallpaper, but grew on to become a beginning for a theme. Not being a graphic artist, there are limitations to what I can do, but I was rather pleased with the results, so I would like to propose my (still in development) carbon theme for proposal. Any feedback would be appreciated. So far I've created a wallpaper, and a cover suitable for our G+ page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UbuntuStudio/Artwork/**CarbonThemehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme There's an icon there, which could potentially be used for other things too. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-develhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:52:42 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote:Simple, clean, beautiful.Could you put some screenshot of the carbon theme you are working on ?The two drafts I have I put up on this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme-- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
I was speaking about menus, windows borders, etc. Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2013/3/8 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me ** On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:52:42 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote: Simple, clean, beautiful. Could you put some screenshot of the carbon theme you are working on ? The two drafts I have I put up on this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CarbonTheme -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 15:42 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Additionally, it would be interesting to look at the XFCE theming, to see what Ubuntu Studio users prefers, and usually there are two ideals: a light theme and a dark theme. I agree. I would use both themes, at day a light theme to avoid reflections on the screen and in the night a dark theme to get rid of the screen's glare. On Ubuntu Studio I'm using the default themes or something very similar and on Arch I switched to a light theme, that is a little bit darker than other light themes. I linked /usr/share/themes/ with /home/rocketmouse/.customization/themes and edited a theme in /home..., but this didn't work. I experienced something similar for icons, with a link they couldn't be used, but without link, they could be used for some things, but not for everything. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:32:40 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote:I was speaking about menus, windows borders, etc.Ah, no. I've only been working on the background, logo and icon. I think the current theme is quite ok, and functional, which is most important of all, so I'm personally not in any hurry to change it.I guess the only criticism I could think of against our current XFCE theme is the fact that it's not our own theme, which in the gnome days was a nice tradition to have. So, I would definitely want to look at creating one, just for Ubuntu Studio.-- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
Kaj, Maybe you should have a look at http://xfce-look.org/ and choose a nice theme. It will save time, and yours is precious ;-) Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2013/3/8 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I guess the only criticism I could think of against our current XFCE theme is Blue and grey is very neutral, but I can't stand it anymore, because it's the most used colour combination for light themes. From time to time I'm switching to another colour, at the moment I prefer a darker light theme, it's yellow, green and grey. The white isn't white, it's a dark white. Even while it's darker, it's anyway friendlier, regarding to the colour combinations. The theme is Zen-verda, but I'm using dark yellow panels #E1BD3E. The Zen themes aren't supra-neutral, but still ok for art productions, I just wish to make them fit a little bit more to my taste. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
In the Hardy days most of the Ubuntustudio theme would carry over to XFCE if you installed it in an existing Ubuntustudio Hardy machine. I did just that in an Athlon 500MHZ audio and photo editing machine because GNOME was too fat for it, and almost all of the Ubuntustudio theme, icons, etc worked just fine. I think it was sometime last Spring I again tested XFCE, again with my themes, desktop background, etc. Main issue was not being able to get rid of ugly gray ovals around filenames on the desktop-and the multimonitor mess, screwing up something that worked fine in every other DE I tested. This was using my private GTK3 supporting port/fork of the theme with the then current XFCE. That version supports GTK2 and GTK3, has a few bugs but is fine for my purposes. The old icon theme had one serious issue: the filesize of some of the high-resolution icons was much too large, causing large directories full of mp3s to load and scroll very slowly in file windows of programs like Audacity. I fixed that by rescaling the mp3 icon, the one I had trouble with, to a lower resolution. On 03/08/2013 at 10:47 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:32:40 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote: I was speaking about menus, windows borders, etc. Ah, no. I've only been working on the background, logo and icon. I think the current theme is quite ok, and functional, which is most important of all, so I'm personally not in any hurry to change it. I guess the only criticism I could think of against our current XFCE theme is the fact that it's not our own theme, which in the gnome days was a nice tradition to have. So, I would definitely want to look at creating one, just for Ubuntu Studio. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:35:37 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote:Kaj,Maybe you should have a look athttp://xfce-look.org/ and choose a nice theme. It will save time, and yours is precious ;-) Absolutely. It would be a good way to find someone who is already doing something we like, and suggest we use a theme specifically for Ubuntu Studio.But, again, and I can only talk for myself, I'm not in a hurry to change the XFCE theme. I do think it's important we find wallpapers for this particular release.Actually, many Ubuntu Studio wallpapers already exist out there, if one wants to find them. And i shall try looking some up.-- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 22:08 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:35:37 +0100, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote: Kaj, Maybe you should have a look at http://xfce-look.org/ and choose a nice theme. It will save time, and yours is precious ;-) Absolutely. It would be a good way to find someone who is already doing something we like, and suggest we use a theme specifically for Ubuntu Studio. But, again, and I can only talk for myself, I'm not in a hurry to change the XFCE theme. I do think it's important we find wallpapers for this particular release. Actually, many Ubuntu Studio wallpapers already exist out there, if one wants to find them. And i shall try looking some up. One or two weeks ago I couldn't find something really new. There are a lot of themes that are already good, just need some changes to fit to my taste. As a basic I like the Zen themes, but e.g. Zen-nigra and Zen-nokto make Evolution's unread/total field unreadable. The bad with selecting themes for XFCE is, that if we switch between different themes, we get broken results, e.g. something that should be white by the theme, could become black, e.g. if you switch between light and dark Zen themes. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, March 8, 2013 7:45 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I linked /usr/share/themes/ with /home/rocketmouse/.customization/themes and edited a theme in /home..., but this didn't work. I experienced something similar for icons, with a link they couldn't be used, but without link, they could be used for some things, but not for everything. In theory, you would just add ~/.local/share/icons/theme_name -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork for next release - wallpapers, and Carbon Theme
On Fri, March 8, 2013 9:35 am, ttoine wrote: Kaj, Maybe you should have a look at http://xfce-look.org/ and choose a nice theme. It will save time, and yours is precious ;-) I would leave that for new help... I agree. To be honest, BG is obvious, widget theme, not really so long as it is not out of place. (in other words, Len should not be chosen to create a new theme... never know what you will get) -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
