Re: live video switching (was: Linux Tools for Serious Photographers)

2012-08-07 Thread Len Ovens

On Tue, August 7, 2012 7:13 am, Emmet Hikory wrote:
 Len Ovens wrote:
 I don't find SW to handle 3 or
 more input streams and do on the fly switching. (I think we used closer
 to
 7 or 8 streams... though our switchers had more.. they had access to
 every
 stream in the building)

 Assuming one is either willing to play with *lots* of gstreamer
 pipelines,
 or can pre-cache streams in one way or another, freemix can handle this
 sort
 of thing: I've stood behind someone using it to select video at a club,
 and
 they had multiple streams/previews running locally, switching which was on
 the main screen regularly.

Took a while to find any docs for it... in the doc directory of the src
package. freemix is designed to do live showing switching of videos stored
as file on the computer like a VJ. I don't know if it can connect to a
gstream opened by another app or not. But it is not designed for it. It is
only available as a src package right now.

However, I tried looking up VJ in synaptic and that spit out LiVES,
already in the repos. In it's features page it says Support for live
firewire cameras and TV cards. I don't know that we should ship it by
default, but extra sw yes.

Comments?

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Re: live video switching (was: Linux Tools for Serious Photographers)

2012-08-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 15:13 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
 Comments?

Since Linux suffers of no or no serious NLE video cut, there shouldn't
be too much video packages included to an install media.

Regarding to soundtracks, resp. audio productions for videos, I would
welcome http://rg42.org/wiki/a3vtl as a package.


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Re: live video switching (was: Linux Tools for Serious Photographers)

2012-08-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Regarding to a German post Lives seems not to run with 12.04 and there
are packages for

Packages are available for the following releases:
Ubuntu 10.04: 1.4.6-1~getdeb1
Ubuntu 10.10: 1.4.2-1~getdeb1
Ubuntu 9.04: 1.1.5-1~getdeb1
Ubuntu 9.10: 1.2.1-1~getdeb1
Ubuntu 11.04: 1.4.6-1~getdeb1

at http://www.getdeb.net/app/lives

I suspect Cinelerra is uninteresting regarding to IIRC no live streams
and of course license issues?


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Re: live video switching (was: Linux Tools for Serious Photographers)

2012-08-07 Thread Emmet Hikory
Len Ovens wrote:
 Took a while to find any docs for it... in the doc directory of the src
 package. freemix is designed to do live showing switching of videos stored
 as file on the computer like a VJ. I don't know if it can connect to a
 gstream opened by another app or not. But it is not designed for it. It is
 only available as a src package right now.

   Ah, indeed: the demo I saw must have either used named pipes or been
a derivative of the sources currently on launchpad (engine.py would need
extension to directly access non-file sources, although it's all gstreamer).
Packaging this source is fairly trivial, if it's considered particularly
useful: it's a clean setup.py and fairly sensibly licensed.

 However, I tried looking up VJ in synaptic and that spit out LiVES,
 already in the repos. In it's features page it says Support for live
 firewire cameras and TV cards. I don't know that we should ship it by
 default, but extra sw yes.

Unless someone can document a sensible video processing workflow
(VJ, broadcasting, etc.) which is known to be well-done with it, I'm
not sure it ought get any more or less attention than any of the other
audio/video tools in the archive that aren't part of known workflows:
while there's *lots* of software in the archive, and all of it is
presumably useful and used by some folk, the more that we attempt to
call supported (even as extra sw), the less I would expect we could
refine the experience to be ideal for accomplishing real tasks.

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