Re: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread Asmo Koskinen
RoLo kirjoitti:
> 2. Can somebody explain me what is jack and how to use it.

Maybe this helps, I just found it.

"JACK Sync: A Primer For Linux Users"

http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1004080

Dave Philips's articles are always good to read and learn.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/user/800764/track

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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Cory K. kirjoitti:
> So, discuss. :D
>
>   

Here are few examples, especially KarmaPod:

http://www.ai.sri.com/ajh/audio/hd-recorder-project/
http://dto.freeshell.org/notebook/KarmaPod.html

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Re: Please realize...

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.
D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it.
>> 
>
> Whiner.  WE WANT EVERYTHING FIXED PERFECTLY AND WE WANT IT WORKING IN 32.75 
> SECONDS AND NOT A MOMENT LONGER OR WE ARE ALL GOING BACK TO 
> WINDOWS
>
> WE ALSO WANT YOU TO PORT ARDOUR AND THE GIMP TO KDE IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE 
> GOING BACK TO WINDOWS
>
> DON'T MAKE US GO BACK TO WINDOWS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY PILE OF MONKEY 
> DUNG11  
> AND DON'T USE A DAY JOB AS AN EXCUSE, BECASE U R ALL JST 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB 
> CORRECT1  MUCH TO 
> LAZY!!1
>   

Oh yeah!? ***_MMA_ packs his toys and goes home. :(

> I decided to jump in and start a "Music Notation" page on the wiki, but I got 
> stumped immediately.  I'm not sure how to flesh it out, since Gutsy doesn't 
> actually include two of the things I'd like to talk about, and I don't want 
> to come off as a Rosegarden fanboy.  Even though I really am.
>   

What are you looking for? Maybe we can get it in? And talk about
Rosegarden. :) It's better than nothing. :D Or hell. Just point us to
Rosegarden documentation. Actually I'm gonna make a page for links to
upstream documentation.


-Cory \m/

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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Matthew Polashek
The 1010s are fine, but the RME is more stable and more highly  
regarded, plus you can upgrade the pre and the converter as you go.   
The only way to get a signal into the 1010 is via an unbalanced 1/4"  
plug which is potentially noisy, especially for recording in on- 
location spaces where discrete power sources are not a priority.   
Chances are, however, you could get really great results with the  
1010s.  It's just a risk I wouldn't take.  I'd rather have Adat I/O  
and put whatever converter I want on there.

I think M-audio makes decent stuff, but their best stuff is firewire  
and not easily linux-able.

RME makes the nicest linux-able stuff.

Echo Audio makes some decent things as well and some are Linux-able.


I'd suggest getting a great pair of closed back headphones to mix  
with.  (Like the Sonys)  You can always patch into a rehearsal room PA  
for play back and you definitely don't want to feed what you are  
recording back through the air onto an audio track.  The de-facto best  
speaker for monitoring is the Yamaha NS10.  These are no longer made  
so you'll have to find a pair used.  Typically these are driven with a  
hafler amplifier.  That's the setup you'll find in almost every major  
studio anywhere in the world.  I've listened to the Event PS8XLs and I  
like them.  I think they're pretty accurate.  I've also heard the  
Mackie 824s and I think they're great, but you can't beat the Yamahas  
for accuracy and consistency.



On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Cory K. wrote:

> Matthew Polashek wrote:
>> I use this rack for mobile recording of my R&B band.  16 tracks at a
>> time.  That is a 19" calzone 20-space rack case with shockmount.
>>
>
> Cool. :)
>
>> I like the 1604 VLZ Pro but I had one with my band and it died.
>> Warranty was out.  We bought an allen and Heath Mixwizard 3 16-2 and
>> it sounds so much better and has 16 direct outs as well as  
>> inserts.
>>
>> Unless you're running sound as well as recording, you don't need a
>> mixer.  Just get some pres or A/D converters to put in front of your
>> interface.  Something like an RME 9652 and 3 behringer ADA8000 s will
>> give you 24 channels.
>>
>
> Not the 1010s? Other links?
>
>> Many 16 channel mixers are rackmountable so you an get ears and get
>> one of those racks with a slant rack top.
>
> One thing I forgot was a pair of speakers. :\
>
> My whole plan for this is to do demo recordings in bands practice  
> spaces
> or maybe more.
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Re: Please realize...

2007-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Sunday 25 November 2007, Cory K. wrote:
> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it.

Whiner.  WE WANT EVERYTHING FIXED PERFECTLY AND WE WANT IT WORKING IN 32.75 
SECONDS AND NOT A MOMENT LONGER OR WE ARE ALL GOING BACK TO 
WINDOWS

WE ALSO WANT YOU TO PORT ARDOUR AND THE GIMP TO KDE IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE 
GOING BACK TO WINDOWS

DON'T MAKE US GO BACK TO WINDOWS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY PILE OF MONKEY 
DUNG11  
AND DON'T USE A DAY JOB AS AN EXCUSE, BECASE U R ALL JST 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB 
CORRECT1  MUCH TO 
LAZY!!1

I decided to jump in and start a "Music Notation" page on the wiki, but I got 
stumped immediately.  I'm not sure how to flesh it out, since Gutsy doesn't 
actually include two of the things I'd like to talk about, and I don't want 
to come off as a Rosegarden fanboy.  Even though I really am.
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Re: ardour - recording while playing a loop

2007-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Sunday 25 November 2007, Kim Burgess wrote:

> What you are explaining would involve multiple independent time lines. This
> is a feature I have not seen on any audio editor on any platform. The way
> this is normally done is to duplicate the loop along one track for however
> long you want it to loop and then record linearly.

Why would it involve multiple independent timelines?

I don't know Ardour very well, but I've done this sort of thing all the 
time in Rosegarden.  (When you suck as a player as much as I do, it's really 
convenient to be able to loop the one iteration of something where you didn't 
make any really horrible mistakes.)

Record a four-bar riff on a guitar, shrink the segment so it starts and ends 
exactly at a barline (if necessary,) toggle the Repeat checkbox in Segment 
Parameters, and then you can move 73.25 measure ahead, hit play, and you'll 
hear the right audio.  You can record over this all day long.

Surely Ardour could do exactly the same thing (and maybe it already does, and 
I'm too stupid to figure out how to work it.)

I don't see how the original poster is asking for magic here.
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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.
Matthew Polashek wrote:
> I use this rack for mobile recording of my R&B band.  16 tracks at a  
> time.  That is a 19" calzone 20-space rack case with shockmount.
>   

Cool. :)

> I like the 1604 VLZ Pro but I had one with my band and it died.   
> Warranty was out.  We bought an allen and Heath Mixwizard 3 16-2 and  
> it sounds so much better and has 16 direct outs as well as inserts.
>
> Unless you're running sound as well as recording, you don't need a  
> mixer.  Just get some pres or A/D converters to put in front of your  
> interface.  Something like an RME 9652 and 3 behringer ADA8000 s will  
> give you 24 channels.
>   

Not the 1010s? Other links?

> Many 16 channel mixers are rackmountable so you an get ears and get  
> one of those racks with a slant rack top.

One thing I forgot was a pair of speakers. :\

My whole plan for this is to do demo recordings in bands practice spaces
or maybe more.

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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Kim Burgess
I'm currently running a setup basically the same as what you described. It
currently consists of an AMD x2 3800+, 2gb ram, 1T of raid space, RME 9652,
Focusrite Octapre LE, behringer ADA8000 (when clocked to the RME the
converters aren't to bad, just crap pres) and a behringer ultramatch pro
(once again, clocked to the RME its great for samplerate conversion on
digital sources and has another 2 A/D D/A's it it). All mounted in a 10U
flight case.

As Matthew said you're not going to need a mixer unless you are wanting to
submix on the input chain. So far this setup has proved extremely usable and
having the RME gives me plently of headroom on my ins so I can simply hire
more converters when needed.

Price wise you'll find that if you look around you can pick up a lot of the
gear you need for pretty decent second hand / special prices. For example.
the RME set me back AU$465 inc postage of ebay, and there are still places
where it retails for round the AU$1600 mark. If you want advice on any
specific gear or your setup in general check out www.gearslutz.com, 'low end
theory' is useful, 'hi end' is great for a drool.

Kim Burgess

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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Matthew Polashek
I use this rack for mobile recording of my R&B band.  16 tracks at a  
time.  That is a 19" calzone 20-space rack case with shockmount.

I like the 1604 VLZ Pro but I had one with my band and it died.   
Warranty was out.  We bought an allen and Heath Mixwizard 3 16-2 and  
it sounds so much better and has 16 direct outs as well as inserts.

Unless you're running sound as well as recording, you don't need a  
mixer.  Just get some pres or A/D converters to put in front of your  
interface.  Something like an RME 9652 and 3 behringer ADA8000 s will  
give you 24 channels.

Many 16 channel mixers are rackmountable so you an get ears and get  
one of those racks with a slant rack top.


On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Cory K. wrote:

> Matthew Polashek wrote:
>> Ardour works great for this.  You have to consider portability.   I
>> built one like this, but it's OSX.
>>
>> http://tinysongs.com/RackBitch/RackBitch-Pages/Image1.html
>>
>
> Cool! What do you use it for? Is that a 19" case?
>
> What do you guys think about this mixer?
> http://www.mackie.com/products/1604vlzpro
>
> A big thing I have to look at is whether I can fit it all in 1 case.  
> I'm
> really liking something like: http://www.cases.tv/poptopracks.jpg  
> but I
> have to make sure a mixer (like that Mackie) would fit on top.
>
> -Cory \m/
>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi kids.
>>>
>>> Something that got me involved in Ubuntu Studio was the hope that  
>>> one
>>> day I could build a 16-track, portable (in a road case), Ardour- 
>>> based
>>> recording setup.
>>>
>>> I do think it's been sad that I haven't had time to actually _use_
>>> what
>>> I'm helping to create. (though $ is a factor as well. isn't it
>>> always) ;)
>>>
>>> So here's a fun little topic. I'm looking at putting together
>>> something
>>> I can wheel around in a road-case.
>>>
>>> I *think* I need:
>>>
>>>   * 16-track capable recording.  (maybe 2 Delta 1010s or LTs?)
>>>   * Mixer
>>>   * Road case (maybe something from http://www.cases.tv)
>>>   * 3U rackmount PC case (maybe
>>> http://www.rackmountmaster.com/rm-4170-4u-ipc-rack-mount-case.html)
>>>   * Mics (normal list containing SM57/58s to start)
>>>
>>>
>>> I _know_ I'm missing a couple of things like the PC guts. I pretty
>>> much
>>> have that covered. From the screen on down.
>>>
>>> I'm looking to record _real_ instruments. ;) So keep that in mind as
>>> well as money. I'm not looking to be cheap here but I know Ill be
>>> spending money here. Upwards of 5k or more I guess?
>>>
>>> So, discuss. :D
>>>
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Re: ardour - recording while playing a loop

2007-11-25 Thread Kim Burgess
What you are explaining would involve multiple independent time lines. This
is a feature I have not seen on any audio editor on any platform. The way
this is normally done is to duplicate the loop along one track for however
long you want it to loop and then record linearly.


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Re: anyone used a mackie firewire ?

2007-11-25 Thread Kim Burgess
If you are tracking in a decent room you'll find that you can get an awesome
drum sound from 3 mics (some good tips here if you haven't done this before
at http://www.mercenary.com/3micdrumstuf.html). If you are going for a multi
mic setup chances are you are wanting to have more flexibility when it comes
to the mix, however, keep in mind that for every mic you add and every time
you tweak an EQ you run the chance of introducing more phase issues, so you
will find you are much better off ensuring the kit is tuned to a t, deadened
where necessary and sounding its best before you even consider putting a mic
near it. If this method works for you you are going to end up with a much
better product by investing that hire money in a few decent mics and pres
that are going to compliment the kit to its full potential. You'll probably
find that the comment about the drum's not being 'wide' enough is due to a
lack of early reflections and natural verb in the tracking, as this is what
creates the sense of space. When you close mic everything you eliminate /
attenuate spill, but you also loose this feeling of space.

Sorry to go on such a rant but I always used to get as close to the source
on everything then try to re-create coherent space artificially in the mix
but I saw the light and have learned that it is better to spend that extra
time tuning the room, experimenting with positioning (of both the mics and
the source within the recording space) and tweaking everything in the 'real'
world before entering edit and mix land. Basically just remember, you can't
polish a turd.


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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.
Matthew Polashek wrote:
> Ardour works great for this.  You have to consider portability.   I  
> built one like this, but it's OSX.
>
> http://tinysongs.com/RackBitch/RackBitch-Pages/Image1.html
>   

Cool! What do you use it for? Is that a 19" case?

What do you guys think about this mixer?
http://www.mackie.com/products/1604vlzpro

A big thing I have to look at is whether I can fit it all in 1 case. I'm
really liking something like: http://www.cases.tv/poptopracks.jpg but I
have to make sure a mixer (like that Mackie) would fit on top.

-Cory \m/

>
> On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> Hi kids.
>>
>> Something that got me involved in Ubuntu Studio was the hope that one
>> day I could build a 16-track, portable (in a road case), Ardour-based
>> recording setup.
>>
>> I do think it's been sad that I haven't had time to actually _use_  
>> what
>> I'm helping to create. (though $ is a factor as well. isn't it  
>> always) ;)
>>
>> So here's a fun little topic. I'm looking at putting together  
>> something
>> I can wheel around in a road-case.
>>
>> I *think* I need:
>>
>>* 16-track capable recording.  (maybe 2 Delta 1010s or LTs?)
>>* Mixer
>>* Road case (maybe something from http://www.cases.tv)
>>* 3U rackmount PC case (maybe
>>  http://www.rackmountmaster.com/rm-4170-4u-ipc-rack-mount-case.html)
>>* Mics (normal list containing SM57/58s to start)
>>
>>
>> I _know_ I'm missing a couple of things like the PC guts. I pretty  
>> much
>> have that covered. From the screen on down.
>>
>> I'm looking to record _real_ instruments. ;) So keep that in mind as
>> well as money. I'm not looking to be cheap here but I know Ill be
>> spending money here. Upwards of 5k or more I guess?
>>
>> So, discuss. :D
>>
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Re: *Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Matthew Polashek
Ardour works great for this.  You have to consider portability.   I  
built one like this, but it's OSX.

http://tinysongs.com/RackBitch/RackBitch-Pages/Image1.html


On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Cory K. wrote:

> Hi kids.
>
> Something that got me involved in Ubuntu Studio was the hope that one
> day I could build a 16-track, portable (in a road case), Ardour-based
> recording setup.
>
> I do think it's been sad that I haven't had time to actually _use_  
> what
> I'm helping to create. (though $ is a factor as well. isn't it  
> always) ;)
>
> So here's a fun little topic. I'm looking at putting together  
> something
> I can wheel around in a road-case.
>
> I *think* I need:
>
>* 16-track capable recording.  (maybe 2 Delta 1010s or LTs?)
>* Mixer
>* Road case (maybe something from http://www.cases.tv)
>* 3U rackmount PC case (maybe
>  http://www.rackmountmaster.com/rm-4170-4u-ipc-rack-mount-case.html)
>* Mics (normal list containing SM57/58s to start)
>
>
> I _know_ I'm missing a couple of things like the PC guts. I pretty  
> much
> have that covered. From the screen on down.
>
> I'm looking to record _real_ instruments. ;) So keep that in mind as
> well as money. I'm not looking to be cheap here but I know Ill be
> spending money here. Upwards of 5k or more I guess?
>
> So, discuss. :D
>
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*Something Fun* Help me build a mobile recording box.

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.
Hi kids.

Something that got me involved in Ubuntu Studio was the hope that one
day I could build a 16-track, portable (in a road case), Ardour-based
recording setup.

I do think it's been sad that I haven't had time to actually _use_ what
I'm helping to create. (though $ is a factor as well. isn't it always) ;)

So here's a fun little topic. I'm looking at putting together something
I can wheel around in a road-case.

I *think* I need:

* 16-track capable recording.  (maybe 2 Delta 1010s or LTs?)
* Mixer
* Road case (maybe something from http://www.cases.tv)
* 3U rackmount PC case (maybe
  http://www.rackmountmaster.com/rm-4170-4u-ipc-rack-mount-case.html)
* Mics (normal list containing SM57/58s to start)


I _know_ I'm missing a couple of things like the PC guts. I pretty much
have that covered. From the screen on down.

I'm looking to record _real_ instruments. ;) So keep that in mind as
well as money. I'm not looking to be cheap here but I know Ill be
spending money here. Upwards of 5k or more I guess?

So, discuss. :D

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Re: Notation Software

2007-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Thursday 22 November 2007, Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
> Please, by all means, look at all the good software out there and let
> me know what are your findings and opinions. You are far more
> experienced in this field so I trust your word.

I had hoped to do some big formal review, but I have been surprisingly busy 
the last few days, catching up with all the stuff I never have time for now 
that I'm working so many hours at my day job.

Quick impressions will have to do.

Between NoteEdit and Canorus, NoteEdit is really the only usable choice at 
this time, but Canorus looks very promising as an eventual replacement.  They 
seem to be addressing all the reasons why I always felt NoteEdit was a 
project that had more promise than practical use, but at this time I don't 
think I would be doing their project any favors by giving it a thorough 
review.  They probably know most of what I would point out.  They are only at 
0.4, and it shows, but I see very promising and encouraging things coming out 
of that project so far, and it's one to watch.

mScore certainly makes a better first impression as a notation editor than 
Rosegarden.  Out of the box, you get a nice looking composition that actually 
makes noise.  One thing that leaps out at me is they apparently have hard 
line breaks, if that's what the glowing green Enter key symbols represent.  
Everything about this application seems to be oriented toward drawing music 
on a page in a visual way, with a high degree of control over the 
presentation, and almost no control over playback reproduction.

They have come a long way since 0.2.x, and this project looks like it might be 
our best hope as a GIMP or OpenOffice.org in this category, though I have to 
admit that I just don't enjoy using it very much, and I don't think I will be 
abandoning Rosegarden anytime soon.  It feels too heavy for someone like me, 
just like Ardour is too heavy for my taste for audio work.

At this time, mScore wouldn't solve any of the problems I have getting things 
done with Rosegarden, but the framework they have in place is very solid, and 
well-conceived.  Once it is fully fleshed out, this will probably become the 
killer free, cross-platform graphical notation app for serious composers who 
want a high degree of control.

Though I must admit the more I look at this, I'm not sure if I would ever use 
this to solve a problem or not.  I can't see switching to mScore for my 
notation needs at this time.  What it's going to come down to is some future 
project that I can't do with Rosegarden, for which mScore saves my day.

Currently the project I have languishing on my desk is sitting there because 
our grace notes are broken.  On the other hand, mScore doesn't even have 
grace notes yet that I can see.  So for now, I'm still frustrated.

I also come away with a feeling of warm satisfaction.  I think all three of 
these are going to be useful in their own way, though I can't imagine myself 
using any of these other applications for more than the occasional project 
that thwarts me with Rosegarden.  I have the speed advantage on my home 
territory, because I'm better at most people in the world at pushing 
Rosegarden to its notation limits, and getting things done without false 
starts.  Still, I wonder how that might change once mScore or Canorus are 
further along, and deliver on their promises.  There are many things that can 
be done in Rosegarden, but they are prettier to do in an application 
dedicated entirely to notation.

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quick terminology question.

2007-11-25 Thread adam faranda
I was looking through the bug fix thread for the intel hda chipset --
specifically for the ALC883 sound card:

3stack-dig 3-jack with SPDIF I/O
6stack-dig 6-jack digital with SPDIF I/O
3stack-6ch 3-jack 6-channel
3stack-6ch-dig 3-jack 6-channel with SPDIF I/O
6stack-dig-demo 6-jack digital for Intel demo board

What does 3stack 3jack mean ? is this referring to the number of
physical jacks into and out of the sound card, or to the number of
channels which the sound card can route? Also, are these parameters
which I need to manually edit within the main alsa configuration file?
Thanks in advance for any info.
-Adam

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RE: Discussion from RoLo - my Point of view

2007-11-25 Thread greg emond

I am pretty much in the same situation...playing for 15 years, home studio..ect 
ect.  and I agree with dennis. on almost everything
 
but where I differ is on the ease of use of commercial DAWs. ANY remotely 
decent recording tool  has a steep learning curve.  The first time you look at 
pro tools or cubase, you only see knobs and lines.  took me almost 2 years to 
be comfy with pro tools.   What is easyer though, is to switch from one DAW to 
an other. Understanding Ardour after being comfy on something else was much 
less a hassle.  There is just one  way to be 100% comfy with a DAW and that to 
use it, and use it  again, and use it even more.
 
Ardour is not harder to learn than pro tools, its justdifferently laid.  
And quite frankly, the Jack system is MUCH more flexible than anything on  
windows.  
 
Again, I would compare recording to driving... it takes years to drive 
properly, but only months to go from automatic to standard transmission.
 
although, if something goes wrong under the hood, im clueless!  Thank god, 
ubuntu studio is nice and stable... caus Unix and me are 2 different beasts 
that will never communicate!
 
cheers! greg> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Discussion from RoLo - my Point 
of view> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:21:00 +0100> > Hello list,> > I just read 
some of the points from RoLos Mail "so frustrating" and I simply > want to says 
some words about this.> > First of all, I want you to know who am I. I am 
living in germany and I play > bass guitar for nearly 10 years, but although 
music is a central point in my > life, I never thought about going professional 
- so music is "just" a hobby > for me. Musically, I am into Hard Rock, Metal 
and Prog Rock.> > Now, what concerns the mail from RoLo, I think we should all 
relax a little > bit and gain access to the issue from another point of view. I 
guess that > everyone making music comes to the point, where he/she wants to 
record it in > some way. Here arises the question: Where to go to record? Sure, 
in a pro > studio would be the first idea about it, but as far as I know, 
millionaires > among us are quite rare, so there are not many bands who can 
really afford a > pro studio.> > Next idea: Home recording. Okay, this is 
realisable. But how? I do not want to > use commercial products such as Cubase 
and Pro Tools because of the amount of > money I waste. So Linux and Ardour is 
quite the next step. But to tell you > the truth: It's not easy for beginners 
to use this (and, btw, which soundcard > one should buy is another central 
question...) because of all the things you > have to know about jack...> > So 
is there any alternative? Yes, I found myself one in the Boss BR-600 > digital 
recorder. It's a 8-Track-recorder, smaller than a notebook and as > easy as a 
CD-Player. But is there any negative side of it (and that's what I > what you 
to think about)? Yes. Making music is a creative process and at some > point 
you're limited by the options the device you're using is giving you. > Although 
the BR-600 has even a (very good) mastering tool in it, you may face > the 
problem that at some point, you can't create the sound you want.> > My own 
point of view can now be explained. If you don't want to learn all > about jack 
etc, you may use such a device as the BR 600 (320 Euros in > germany), so you 
spend a certain amount of money, but don't have spend time > learning stuff. 
But if you want to make sounds in the direction Mike Oldfield > or Jordan 
Rudess (on the keyboards of Dream Theater), such a device is not > enough so 
you have to learn deeper about home-recording technology.> > Whichever of these 
both ways you may go - it's up to you!> > Regards,> Dennis> > -- > 
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Re: ardour - recording while playing a loop

2007-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Sunday 25 November 2007, verymeta wrote:

> Hi all. Does anyone know if it's possible in Ardour to play a loop in
> one track, while recording another track?

I don't know if it's possible, but I can't figure out how to do it either.

This job is really easy in Rosegarden.  Any segment of any type can be set to 
repeat until it bumps into something else.

I want to state for the record that I'm not trying to suggest Rosegarden as an 
all-around alternative to Ardour.  It really depends on what you need to do.  
This particular job is easier, if it's even possible to do in Ardour at all, 
but they have a lot of high end functionality we don't even imagine trying to 
duplicate.
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Re: Please realize...

2007-11-25 Thread Luis de Bethencourt
Amen!

On Nov 25, 2007 6:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There have been a couple of posts from presumably new-to-linux users
> making assumptions about how things work in Ubuntu Studio/Linux.
>
> Now, while I will _never_ say there isn't a myriad of things that need
> attention in linux in general "please realize" that linux is so
> volunteer driven its crazy.
>
> Specific to Ubuntu Studio:
>
> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it.
> * 1 of which can be even remotely considered "full-time".
> * The rest are students with various other demands on their schedule.
>
> So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are
> repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see
> the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only
> have so much time.
>
> So we will try to address things that we can handle and direct you to
> places where either people can find the needed info or places where they
> can get involved to help.
>
> -Cory \m/
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Discussion from RoLo - my Point of view

2007-11-25 Thread Dennis Neumeier
Hello list,

I just read some of the points from RoLos Mail "so frustrating" and I simply 
want to says some words about this.

First of all, I want you to know who am I. I am living in germany and I play 
bass guitar for nearly 10 years, but although music is a central point in my 
life, I never thought about going professional - so music is "just" a hobby 
for me. Musically, I am into Hard Rock, Metal and Prog Rock.

Now, what concerns the mail from RoLo, I think we should all relax a little 
bit and gain access to the issue from another point of view. I guess that 
everyone making music comes to the point, where he/she wants to record it in 
some way. Here arises the question: Where to go to record? Sure, in a pro 
studio would be the first idea about it, but as far as I know, millionaires 
among us are quite rare, so there are not many bands who can really afford a 
pro studio.

Next idea: Home recording. Okay, this is realisable. But how? I do not want to 
use commercial products such as Cubase and Pro Tools because of the amount of 
money I waste. So Linux and Ardour is quite the next step. But to tell you 
the truth: It's not easy for beginners to use this (and, btw, which soundcard 
one should buy is another central question...) because of all the things you 
have to know about jack...

So is there any alternative? Yes, I found myself one in the Boss BR-600 
digital recorder. It's a 8-Track-recorder, smaller than a notebook and as 
easy as a CD-Player. But is there any negative side of it (and that's what I 
what you to think about)? Yes. Making music is a creative process and at some 
point you're limited by the options the device you're using is giving you. 
Although the BR-600 has even a (very good) mastering tool in it, you may face 
the problem that at some point, you can't create the sound you want.

My own point of view can now be explained. If you don't want to learn all 
about jack etc, you may use such a device as the BR 600 (320 Euros in 
germany), so you spend a certain amount of money, but don't have spend time 
learning stuff. But if you want to make sounds in the direction Mike Oldfield 
or Jordan Rudess (on the keyboards of Dream Theater), such a device is not 
enough so you have to learn deeper about home-recording technology.

Whichever of these both ways you may go - it's up to you!

Regards,
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Re: Please realize...

2007-11-25 Thread Edward Dunagin
Hello Cory, Thanks for you note to the list.

On Nov 25, 2007 10:25 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There have been a couple of posts from presumably new-to-linux users
> making assumptions about how things work in Ubuntu Studio/Linux.
>
> Now, while I will _never_ say there isn't a myriad of things that need
> attention in linux in general "please realize" that linux is so
> volunteer driven its crazy.
>
> Specific to Ubuntu Studio:
>
> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it.
> * 1 of which can be even remotely considered "full-time".
> * The rest are students with various other demands on their schedule.
>
> So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are
> repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see
> the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only
> have so much time.
>
> So we will try to address things that we can handle and direct you to
> places where either people can find the needed info or places where they
> can get involved to help.
>

I have used Linux since the early '90s but have only been using
UbuntuStudio since it came out.
I will help where I can, but some of the stuff I have forgotten with
age. I always read list mail to see if I can help or learn something.
I have learned a lot from this list and I thank you.

Peaceed

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anyone used a mackie firewire ?

2007-11-25 Thread greg emond

hi all, im going to record a band next weekend, and since the drummer wants to 
use 8 mics for his drums, I will be forced to rent a firewire mixer for the 
drum recordings.  I contacted my favorite toy rental shop, and the one that 
would do the job is a mackie.
 
is anyone using this type of setup with ubuntu studio?   is there known issues?
 
I have a delta44 in there, would it be wise to remove it to avoid conflicts?  
can I use both the mixer and the delta without creating havoc?
 
last time, I used the delta 44 only, but the drummer felt the drum was not 
"wide" enough. I feel it was more a mistake from my part (mic placement) but 
hey, hes the one with the money.
 
any better suggestions?
 
I wish I just could rent a delta 1010, but its not available for rental. -sigh-
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Re: Problems with Qsampler

2007-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I used the deb found here, which worked marvelously:

http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/linuxsampler/

~h

On 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:31:50 +0100
> "Fabio Buda [mbutUbuntu]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello folks, i've just upgraded my ubuntustudio to gutsy and I
> > discovered that Qsampler is automaticallu installed...
> >
> > On feisty I installed Qsampler but there was an error, also on gutsy I
> > have the same problem...
> >
> >
> > The complete Message is:
> >
> > Could not connect to server as client, Sorry
> > lscp_client_create: cmd: connect: Connection refused
> >
> >
> This is a common problem.
> Qsampler uses linuxsampler as backend but linuxsampler can't be
> included due to license issues.
> You need to install linuxsampler if you want to use qsampler.
> It is not in any official repository but I read (on this list or lau I
> think) that there are working packages around.
>
> regards
> Philipp
>
>
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RE: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread greg emond



im pretty new to ubuntu studio, but I gotta say, the tools it offers are of 
pretty good quality once you get past the learning curve.  Took me about a 
month  of trial-error before recording, editind and mastering my first song.  
What convinced me to keep on going was  was Jamin.   The only other 
"affordable" mastering tool that beats what jamin offers is the Waves suite, 
and its still worth thousands.Ardour is pretty complex, but if youre familiar 
with pro tools, you wont take too long to get it..Ive fiddled with it for 2 
months or so now, and once you get how everything communicates together, you 
will be impressed.  Take jack as a virtual patch bay that makes every music app 
comunicate together.. like "real" cables.  just take it as virtual patch 
cables. Say you want to want to link your drum machine to your mixer, your 
mixer to your recorder, and your recorder back in your mixer for 
monitoringin the real world, you would have a spaghetti behind your desk 
right? jack is exactly that, but virtually.  So heres a few tips.. I hope it 
helps. keep in mind im like most car drivers out there... i know how to drive, 
but if something goes wrong mechanically, I am at a loss.  Make sure Jack is 
seeing your sound card, and that its buffer settings are set to accomodate your 
sound card.there is  a nice setup tutorial at 
http://www.ubustu.com/globe/2007/05/29/how-to-configure-jack-in-ubuntu-studio/(the
 fact that the tutorial uses my sound card as an example helps a lot though :)  
 Keep in mind  that ubuntu is much lighter than windows, so dont be shy  to use 
pretty high frames/period settings(buffers).  Even past 1500 the latency is 
still not a hindrance, and I have very little xruns.   This high buffer allows 
me to record at 24 bit 96 khz without major issues.   remember, always let jack 
run in the background and keep an eye on xruns :)  just select your inputs and 
outputs from your respective programs and jack does the rest. ill give you a 
quck example of how I use ardour and jamin... hope it helps. say I have a 16 
track mix in ardour that sounds kool enough to be worth mastering.  First of 
all, I create a 17th stereo track that I mute as soon as I create it and arm it 
for recording.  then i start jamin   then, in ardours mixer window I right 
click in the master out.  (the black box at the bottom of every track.)  click 
edit  and remove your main ALSA outs  (your sound cards output) to avoid loop 
feedback.   then I switch  to jamin, and in the input menu, I select the master 
outs from ardour. Then I select jamins output menu and select the main ALSA 
outs.  You should have sound from jamin now if you press play in ardour.  there 
is a nice tutorial on jamins tools at 
http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/uibasics.html  check the whole site, its worth 
it! once youre happy with he mastering, select the 17th track (the one thats 
muted) as an output in jamin. Giving it a name when you created it wil make it 
easyer to spot. just play and record ath the same time, and that 17th track 
will be your master...just right click it and export it in the format you want. 
 hope this helps a bit, and feel free to ask the commuity if stomped.  > Date: 
Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:00:44 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: So Frustrating> > Hello, been 
working with Ubuntu Studio, and have some question for you.> > 1. Can somebody 
explain in simple words how do you do your musical > process overflow on Ubuntu 
studio??> 2. Can somebody explain me what is jack and how to use it. I use some 
> programs, cause I dream about a day where I can produce all my music > with 
Open Source, but to be honest It's been so hard because of the > documentation. 
I still join everything with cubase 'cause is faster for > me and don't really 
understand how to connect programs on Linux using > jack, so I export 
everything to wav and mix it up on Cubase, yeah I'm > not proud of it but I 
haven't been able to use JAMin, so> 3. Do you know any guide for Audio on 
Linux for newbies? For a standard > Windows/Mac user is FRUSTRATING not to 
found a nice guide on > ubuntustudio site. Don't wan't to be annoying but ¿How 
exactly do you > guys plan on making people adopt this new software/apps with 
out a GOOD > tutorials for newbies? And being said so, Is anybody out here 
interested > on doing that? I'll join to that initiative.> 4. This mailing list 
is a really good method for helping users but I > think that maybe is time to 
wonder about a really nice, cool user > friendly way to teach new users this 
exciting distro.> > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list> 
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PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: So 
Frustrating> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:18:21 -0500> > On Sunday 25 November 
2007, RoLo wrote:> 

Please realize...

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.
There have been a couple of posts from presumably new-to-linux users
making assumptions about how things work in Ubuntu Studio/Linux.

Now, while I will _never_ say there isn't a myriad of things that need
attention in linux in general "please realize" that linux is so
volunteer driven its crazy.

Specific to Ubuntu Studio:

* There are only 6 or so people that really work on it.
* 1 of which can be even remotely considered "full-time".
* The rest are students with various other demands on their schedule.

So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are
repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see
the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only
have so much time.

So we will try to address things that we can handle and direct you to
places where either people can find the needed info or places where they
can get involved to help.

-Cory \m/

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Re: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Sunday 25 November 2007, RoLo wrote:
> 1. Can somebody explain in simple words how do you do your musical
> process overflow on Ubuntu studio??

I can think of two representative examples from recent memory.  One involved 
notation, while the other did not.

First, Zynfidel started life when I was playing with ZynAddSubFX one day.  I 
had started ZynAddSubFX, and routed its JACK audio outputs to alsa_pcm in 
order to hear it, using the Connect button and Audio tab in QJackCtl. I had 
my keyboard's MIDI output routed to ZynAddSubFX by way of the Connect button 
and MIDI tab also in QJackCtl, which an indispensable application for 
managing JACK audio and ALSA MIDI connections, as well as starting the JACK 
server itself, and monitoring its status.

I found one particular patch that sounded really cool when I played one note, 
let it ring a bit, and then played another one.  It was a seed of 
inspiration.

So I fired up Rosegarden, routed Rosegarden's first MIDI output device to 
ZynAddSubFX via its Manage MIDI Devices button, and recorded this little two 
note motif.  I looped it.

Then I went back to ZynAddSubFX, configured it to receive input on more than 
one MIDI channel, found a drum patch that also sounded cool, set that up to 
play on channel 2, and went back to Rosegarden to do something with the 
drums, which I also looped.

I wound up using five different patches in ZynAddSubFX, along with a live 
recording of me playing two arpeggiated chords on acoustic guitar.  This all 
formed the endlessly repeating and unchanging backbone of a long and 
rambling "ambiance" piece.  It went on for something like 8-9 minutes before 
I finally came in with a long off the cuff acoustic guitar solo noodling 
around on top of the tapestry of other sounds, including some 
random "whacking on something" noises I also produced with ZynAddSubFX.  The 
whole thing wound up being all Zyn and live guitar, with nothing else 
included, which I thought was rather cool of Zyn to be functional enough to 
be pushed to what I thought was an impressive limit.

Then I probably used Time Machine to record a mixdown of all the tracks into 
one file, probably by routing alsa_pcm directly to Time Machine.  These days 
I've taken to recording the mix directly inside Rosegarden, so I don't have 
to load a gigantic file into an editor to cut off the first two minutes.

As I said, that example didn't include any notation.  For another recent 
project, I went back to a MIDI file I composed with Cakewalk in 1996 or so as 
a pure MIDI piece, imported it into Rosegarden, and then I worked on a "live 
instrument remix" version from there.

I ditched the lame MIDI acoustic guitar, and replaced it with a live 
recording.  To do this, I turned my external speakers off, and listened to my 
Sound Canvas on headphones, so I wouldn't record the MIDI parts along with my 
acoustic guitar.  (This didn't completely work, and I can still hear the 
synth instruments in the guitar recording a little, but it's close enough for 
my low standards anyway.)

After I had replaced the worst part, I decided to use Hydrogen's superior drum 
sounds to replace the lame drum kit on my aging Sound Canvas.  I started 
Hydrogen, found an appropriate kit, then went to the drum track in 
Rosegarden, and assigned it to a MIDI playback instrument that was part of 
the device connected to Hydrogen.  Then I had to use various Rosegarden 
features to remap the part to find the correct drums in Hydrogen, which has 
different and all non-standard mappings for each one of its kits.  After all 
of that was said and done, I went ahead and recorded the drum track into an 
audio segment.

Once I had that going, I replaced the MIDI pipe organ part with Aeolus, and 
recorded that into an audio segment too.

Then I moved into the melody lines.  One of them was written for "pan flute" 
and the other for "trombone."  I took each of these parts to convert for live 
brass.  I started with the "pan flute" part, transposed its playback -2 and 
opened the segment in a notation view.  I double clicked the key signature 
and re-inserted the same key, directing Rosegarden to transpose relative to 
the segment level transpose, which moved the notation +2 automatically, and 
wrote the right key for me.  Then I cleaned up the notation a little, 
smoothed out some weird rests, moved pitches around to avoid anything too 
high or too low for my own trumpet chops on a real instrument, and printed it 
via LilyPond.  I repeated the process for the "trombone" segment, moving it 
around to fit my "Alto horn in Eb," and printing that as well.

As it happened, my alto horn chops are not good enough, and I was under a time 
crunch to get this track onto a CD for an old friend, so I wound up using a 
lame fake MIDI instrument on that part, but it does include a live trumpet.

Then I had considerable trouble mixing this one down.  I was recording several 
live tracks from my Sound Canvas mixed with several cann

Re: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.


Chris Dawson wrote:
> Rolo,
>
> I think you are dead on correct in your criticism of the current state
> of UbuntuStudio and your thoughts point to issues with the Linux and
> Open-Source communities at large.
>   

The latter part of this is actually the more correct point.

> However, this is an incredible opportunity to create a new type of
> community because of this exact issue.  One of the things that Ubuntu
> (and Canonical the company that "owns" Ubuntu) has done that is unlike
> any other Linux community in history is to expand the user community
> outside of traditional Linux users.  This is the first Linux community
> in history where I would estimate the majority of new users are not
> users coming from another Linux community but are coming from outside,
> most likely Windows or even sometimes Macintosh OSX.  This is a world
> changing community.
>
> This community is going to be different because of the sharing that
> occurs.  I would not say that, for example, the Windows development
> community is good at "sharing."  Windows developers hide their
> solutions (so they can get paid for consulting) whereas Linux
> developers offer their solutions to the world at large for free
> (price) and freely (licensing).
>
> This is the same opportunity we have with Ubuntu Studio.  We as a
> community have to find the ways to share information about this
> project.  I'm using it particularly as I learn piano, and so I use
> JackD via QJack, Rosegarden, Qsynth.  But, I've never shared how I use
> it.  I'll commit to doing this.
>
> A friend of mine made a great little multimedia capture program called
> "Screen-cast-o-matic."  It is purely browser based, you just go to the
> site and click a button to do screen captures with Java software in
> the browser.  Would anyone on this list be interested in documenting
> their processes using something like this?  I'll commit to using this
> to document one or two of my processes; first step for me would be to
> organize and figure out which two processes are interesting and
> helpful.  One problem I see with his software immediately is that SCOM
> cannot capture using a java applet running inside of Firefox as the
> sound card will be blocked by the Jackd process and Firefox cannot
> connect to jackd.  I've been trying to find a solution to this for a
> long while.  Perhaps there is another screen capture program, or would
> people care if these were video only?  I suppose it does not make a
> lot of sense that audio creation demonstrations are without audio...
>
> Any thoughts?  Could we create a user generated site full of
> UbuntuStudio audio application usage?
>   

We have a place. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio

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Re: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread Cory K.


RoLo wrote:
> Hello, been working with Ubuntu Studio, and have some question for you.
>
> 1. Can somebody explain in simple words how do you do your musical 
> process overflow on Ubuntu studio??
> 2. Can somebody explain me what is jack and how to use it. I use some 
> programs, cause I dream about a day where I can produce all my music 
> with Open Source, but to be honest It's been so hard because of the 
> documentation. I still join everything with cubase 'cause is faster for 
> me and don't really understand how to connect programs on Linux using 
> jack, so I export everything to wav and mix it up on Cubase, yeah I'm 
> not proud of it but I haven't been able to use JAMin, so
>   

I'll leave this for others.

> 3. Do you know any guide for Audio on Linux for newbies? For a standard 
> Windows/Mac user is FRUSTRATING not to found a nice guide on 
> ubuntustudio site. Don't wan't to be annoying but ¿How exactly do you 
> guys plan on making people adopt this new software/apps with out a GOOD 
> tutorials for newbies?And being said so, Is anybody out here interested 
> on doing that? I'll join to that initiative.
>   

We do and have had a place for just this.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio That is the place to
generate info/help/guides specific to Ubuntu Studio.

Murat Günes, has recently been appointed our documentation lead. Over
the coming months he hopes to address some of the issues here. Realize
that this is a community and it takes YOU (directed at everyone reading)
also to improve this.

> 4. This mailing list is a really good method for helping users but I 
> think that maybe is time to wonder about a really nice, cool user 
> friendly way to teach new users this exciting distro.
>   

This mailing list and wiki will remain the "official" places for
documentation though it would be nice to output to a printable format.


Everyone has to also remember that windows nor Mac (since the comparison
was made) does this. Documentation is generated by upstream. So I'm
against doing *major* documentation for a app within Ubuntu Studio. If
one starts to write documentation than realizes that most of the writing
is about the app specifically than I would encourage that person to look
at getting the info to upstream.

One thing we can do and should/can be a fairly easy task is have a wiki
page with links to upstream documentation.

-Cory \m/

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Re: So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread Chris Dawson
Rolo,

I think you are dead on correct in your criticism of the current state
of UbuntuStudio and your thoughts point to issues with the Linux and
Open-Source communities at large.

However, this is an incredible opportunity to create a new type of
community because of this exact issue.  One of the things that Ubuntu
(and Canonical the company that "owns" Ubuntu) has done that is unlike
any other Linux community in history is to expand the user community
outside of traditional Linux users.  This is the first Linux community
in history where I would estimate the majority of new users are not
users coming from another Linux community but are coming from outside,
most likely Windows or even sometimes Macintosh OSX.  This is a world
changing community.

This community is going to be different because of the sharing that
occurs.  I would not say that, for example, the Windows development
community is good at "sharing."  Windows developers hide their
solutions (so they can get paid for consulting) whereas Linux
developers offer their solutions to the world at large for free
(price) and freely (licensing).

This is the same opportunity we have with Ubuntu Studio.  We as a
community have to find the ways to share information about this
project.  I'm using it particularly as I learn piano, and so I use
JackD via QJack, Rosegarden, Qsynth.  But, I've never shared how I use
it.  I'll commit to doing this.

A friend of mine made a great little multimedia capture program called
"Screen-cast-o-matic."  It is purely browser based, you just go to the
site and click a button to do screen captures with Java software in
the browser.  Would anyone on this list be interested in documenting
their processes using something like this?  I'll commit to using this
to document one or two of my processes; first step for me would be to
organize and figure out which two processes are interesting and
helpful.  One problem I see with his software immediately is that SCOM
cannot capture using a java applet running inside of Firefox as the
sound card will be blocked by the Jackd process and Firefox cannot
connect to jackd.  I've been trying to find a solution to this for a
long while.  Perhaps there is another screen capture program, or would
people care if these were video only?  I suppose it does not make a
lot of sense that audio creation demonstrations are without audio...

Any thoughts?  Could we create a user generated site full of
UbuntuStudio audio application usage?

Chris

On Nov 25, 2007 1:00 PM, RoLo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, been working with Ubuntu Studio, and have some question for you.
>
> 1. Can somebody explain in simple words how do you do your musical
> process overflow on Ubuntu studio??
> 2. Can somebody explain me what is jack and how to use it. I use some
> programs, cause I dream about a day where I can produce all my music
> with Open Source, but to be honest It's been so hard because of the
> documentation. I still join everything with cubase 'cause is faster for
> me and don't really understand how to connect programs on Linux using
> jack, so I export everything to wav and mix it up on Cubase, yeah I'm
> not proud of it but I haven't been able to use JAMin, so
> 3. Do you know any guide for Audio on Linux for newbies? For a standard
> Windows/Mac user is FRUSTRATING not to found a nice guide on
> ubuntustudio site. Don't wan't to be annoying but ¿How exactly do you
> guys plan on making people adopt this new software/apps with out a GOOD
> tutorials for newbies? And being said so, Is anybody out here interested
> on doing that? I'll join to that initiative.
> 4. This mailing list is a really good method for helping users but I
> think that maybe is time to wonder about a really nice, cool user
> friendly way to teach new users this exciting distro.
>
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So Frustrating

2007-11-25 Thread RoLo
Hello, been working with Ubuntu Studio, and have some question for you.

1. Can somebody explain in simple words how do you do your musical 
process overflow on Ubuntu studio??
2. Can somebody explain me what is jack and how to use it. I use some 
programs, cause I dream about a day where I can produce all my music 
with Open Source, but to be honest It's been so hard because of the 
documentation. I still join everything with cubase 'cause is faster for 
me and don't really understand how to connect programs on Linux using 
jack, so I export everything to wav and mix it up on Cubase, yeah I'm 
not proud of it but I haven't been able to use JAMin, so
3. Do you know any guide for Audio on Linux for newbies? For a standard 
Windows/Mac user is FRUSTRATING not to found a nice guide on 
ubuntustudio site. Don't wan't to be annoying but ¿How exactly do you 
guys plan on making people adopt this new software/apps with out a GOOD 
tutorials for newbies? And being said so, Is anybody out here interested 
on doing that? I'll join to that initiative.
4. This mailing list is a really good method for helping users but I 
think that maybe is time to wonder about a really nice, cool user 
friendly way to teach new users this exciting distro.

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Re: Problems with Qsampler

2007-11-25 Thread hollunder
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:31:50 +0100
"Fabio Buda [mbutUbuntu]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello folks, i've just upgraded my ubuntustudio to gutsy and I
> discovered that Qsampler is automaticallu installed...
> 
> On feisty I installed Qsampler but there was an error, also on gutsy I
> have the same problem...
> 
> 
> The complete Message is:
> 
> Could not connect to server as client, Sorry
> lscp_client_create: cmd: connect: Connection refused
> 
> 
This is a common problem.
Qsampler uses linuxsampler as backend but linuxsampler can't be
included due to license issues.
You need to install linuxsampler if you want to use qsampler.
It is not in any official repository but I read (on this list or lau I
think) that there are working packages around.

regards
Philipp

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Problems with Qsampler

2007-11-25 Thread Fabio Buda [mbutUbuntu]
Hello folks, i've just upgraded my ubuntustudio to gutsy and I
discovered that Qsampler is automaticallu installed...

On feisty I installed Qsampler but there was an error, also on gutsy I
have the same problem...


The complete Message is:

Could not connect to server as client, Sorry
lscp_client_create: cmd: connect: Connection refused


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ardour - recording while playing a loop

2007-11-25 Thread verymeta
Hi all. Does anyone know if it's possible in Ardour to play a loop in 
one track, while recording another track? Obviously, I would want the 
recording track to move forward linearly - at the moment, I can get 
Ardour to loop all the tracks or none of them, but I can't get it to 
loop one track but not another.

Cheers,
Katie


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