Re: Two Questions?
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:19:15 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:55:03 -0400 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ming wrote: I think it's very appropriate... ;) I'm also wondering about that and why doesn't ubuntu studio have a graphical installer bootloader (as in JAD - Jack Audio Distribution)? No graphical installer. Bootloader? Like a picture behind GRUB? Otherwise Usplash might fit this bill. On 3/29/08, *Adrian Wells* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may not be an appropriate to ask here….but why doesn't Ubuntu Studio have a liveCD? Because we don't intend for Ubuntu Studio t be run as a live system. It also means it's another disk we have to maintain. We have enough work already. Especially with the fact that nobody besides the team really tests the current one. -Cory \m/ Cory, do you know if there will be a release candidate or something like that in the near future? With my luck at downloading the beta the earliest time to test it is tomorrow. My updated thing from alpha4 is pretty much unusable for testing since quite some stuff got messed up during the updates and due to my experiments. Also, please tell me where the focus of testing should be. Everything is quite a lot and includes all the general ubuntu stuff. Best Regards, Philipp Thanks for guidance... don't complain if the report is not to your liking. Bugs and issues, Ubuntu Studio related: The colour set still causes problems, klick any of the 'unlock' buttons and on 'advanced' or whatever it was, and you will see a dark-blue link on dark-grey background, unreadable. Also, there happen to be websites where drop-down menus (I mean something like a font combo box) are dark-grey in background with black letters, the same old unreadable stuff. I noticed that the ubuntu studio theme has the black background as default, not one of the custom made ones. jackd could have saner default settings, for example the rt-option could be set as default, periods to 3, .. whatever. By default, the alsa-pcm level is set to 80%, does that make sense or serve a certain purpose? Some menu items don't have a 'tool tip', example: pure data. Rants and stuff for Intrepid: IMHO the colours aren't any good, they cause problems in readability, have low contrast and don't serve a purpose besides 'being cool', and that is up to debate. I don't like the menu structure, I'd love to see it more geared towards fast access. I'd like more categories in a flatter hierarchy. After using ubuntu studio since it's there I'd really like to have an official abbreviation, a two-or-so letter acronym. Writing Ubuntu Studio as a whole all the time sucks. It would be somehow nice to have Information on the applications available. Documentation? How's the status? Some other bugs I encountered and haven't reported yet: 'Clock Preferences' - 'Time Settings' - 'Set System Time' just gave me an authentication dialogue that wasn't in the foreground and therefore invisible, which rendered everything unusable until one blindly enters the password. It didn't do anything thereafter. 'About me' doesn't come up. 'There was an error while trying to get the addressbook information Evolution Data Server can't handle the protocol' General Rant: The now easy x-server configuration makes my life harder, since 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't include monitor options (and I think keyboard settings) anymore. Which means that I have to hand-edit xorg.conf to get a higher resolution than 1024x768. Also, the keyboard settings during install appear to have been stripped down, so I couldn't select my language-sub-layout. In case you're still reading that: Thank you, nice work, it's good to have this distro. Best Regards, Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
Ok. So I have no clue what's going on now. Look's like any QT4 app can do it *if* they added support. Maybe a update triggered this. I didn't see one hit that would give me a clue. http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Screenshot.png Unfortunately, there's gray text. We can be responsible for what this looks like because if we change one thing here another breaks. Damn people using GTK in non-standard ways. We'll try to do what we can. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Two Questions?
Today some stupid welcome screen wouldn't load, and I have been reduced to a prompt same problem, solved installing kdm...or better reading this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gdm-themes/+bug/210538 from there: the right answer for me Commenting the HumanList gtkrc gtk_color_scheme = line workaround the issue, does anybody knows why this theme is not using the same gtkrc as Human and if the line can be commented? the theme seems to not change when it's commented just to put a # before gtk_color_scheme i changed this file sudo gedit /usr/share/gdm/themes/UbuntuStudio/gtk-2.0/gtkrc hello On gio, 2008-04-03 at 07:41 -0400, Susan Cragin wrote: I wish it had a SafeMode. Hardy Heron has lots of problems with video drivers including mine, and I have to manually load the vesa driver and the command Option MonitorLayout LVDS,Auto Today some stupid welcome screen wouldn't load, and I have been reduced to a prompt. I have an ASUS and the video driver problems are well-known on the Ubuntu bug list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 3, 2008 7:02 AM To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Two Questions? On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:19:15 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:55:03 -0400 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ming wrote: I think it's very appropriate... ;) I'm also wondering about that and why doesn't ubuntu studio have a graphical installer bootloader (as in JAD - Jack Audio Distribution)? No graphical installer. Bootloader? Like a picture behind GRUB? Otherwise Usplash might fit this bill. On 3/29/08, *Adrian Wells* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may not be an appropriate to ask here….but why doesn't Ubuntu Studio have a liveCD? Because we don't intend for Ubuntu Studio t be run as a live system. It also means it's another disk we have to maintain. We have enough work already. Especially with the fact that nobody besides the team really tests the current one. -Cory \m/ Cory, do you know if there will be a release candidate or something like that in the near future? With my luck at downloading the beta the earliest time to test it is tomorrow. My updated thing from alpha4 is pretty much unusable for testing since quite some stuff got messed up during the updates and due to my experiments. Also, please tell me where the focus of testing should be. Everything is quite a lot and includes all the general ubuntu stuff. Best Regards, Philipp Thanks for guidance... don't complain if the report is not to your liking. Bugs and issues, Ubuntu Studio related: The colour set still causes problems, klick any of the 'unlock' buttons and on 'advanced' or whatever it was, and you will see a dark-blue link on dark-grey background, unreadable. Also, there happen to be websites where drop-down menus (I mean something like a font combo box) are dark-grey in background with black letters, the same old unreadable stuff. I noticed that the ubuntu studio theme has the black background as default, not one of the custom made ones. jackd could have saner default settings, for example the rt-option could be set as default, periods to 3, .. whatever. By default, the alsa-pcm level is set to 80%, does that make sense or serve a certain purpose? Some menu items don't have a 'tool tip', example: pure data. Rants and stuff for Intrepid: IMHO the colours aren't any good, they cause problems in readability, have low contrast and don't serve a purpose besides 'being cool', and that is up to debate. I don't like the menu structure, I'd love to see it more geared towards fast access. I'd like more categories in a flatter hierarchy. After using ubuntu studio since it's there I'd really like to have an official abbreviation, a two-or-so letter acronym. Writing Ubuntu Studio as a whole all the time sucks. It would be somehow nice to have Information on the applications available. Documentation? How's the status? Some other bugs I encountered and haven't reported yet: 'Clock Preferences' - 'Time Settings' - 'Set System Time' just gave me an authentication dialogue that wasn't in the foreground and therefore invisible, which rendered everything unusable until one blindly enters the password. It didn't do anything thereafter. 'About me' doesn't come up. 'There was an error while trying to get the addressbook information Evolution Data Server can't handle the protocol' General Rant: The now easy x-server configuration makes my life harder, since 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't include monitor options (and I think keyboard settings) anymore. Which means that I have to hand-edit xorg.conf to get a higher resolution than 1024x768. Also, the keyboard settings during install appear to have been stripped down, so I
Re: Two Questions?
sonamusica wrote: Today some stupid welcome screen wouldn't load, and I have been reduced to a prompt same problem, solved installing kdm...or better reading this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gdm-themes/+bug/210538 from there: the right answer for me Commenting the HumanList gtkrc gtk_color_scheme = line workaround the issue, does anybody knows why this theme is not using the same gtkrc as Human and if the line can be commented? the theme seems to not change when it's commented just to put a # before gtk_color_scheme i changed this file sudo gedit /usr/share/gdm/themes/UbuntuStudio/gtk-2.0/gtkrc hello I wrestled the entire day with this. The above fix *didn't* work because we have no such line. At one point I removed the GDM themes gtkrc and things worked again. (along with alot of other tinkering) But, haha, I put it back and never had the issue. Go figure. This is a tricky one that not everyone is getting or really know exactly what is the issue. We will be removing the gtkrc from the theme in the end because it's not really needed as it will just use the systems theme. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Two Questions?
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:45:57 -0400 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sonamusica wrote: Today some stupid welcome screen wouldn't load, and I have been reduced to a prompt same problem, solved installing kdm...or better reading this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gdm-themes/+bug/210538 from there: the right answer for me Commenting the HumanList gtkrc gtk_color_scheme = line workaround the issue, does anybody knows why this theme is not using the same gtkrc as Human and if the line can be commented? the theme seems to not change when it's commented just to put a # before gtk_color_scheme i changed this file sudo gedit /usr/share/gdm/themes/UbuntuStudio/gtk-2.0/gtkrc hello I wrestled the entire day with this. The above fix *didn't* work because we have no such line. At one point I removed the GDM themes gtkrc and things worked again. (along with alot of other tinkering) But, haha, I put it back and never had the issue. Go figure. This is a tricky one that not everyone is getting or really know exactly what is the issue. We will be removing the gtkrc from the theme in the end because it's not really needed as it will just use the systems theme. -Cory \m/ Is this the same problem or related to the one I have? I have serious trouble logging in graphically, because gdmgreeter crashes all the time and I have trouble reporting that (automatic way doesn't really work with that problem for whatever reason). It could also be a hardware-related problem of some sort tough, looks like my box is dying.. Well, let's give it another try.. Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
GDM issues?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same problem or related to the one I have? I have serious trouble logging in graphically, because gdmgreeter crashes all the time and I have trouble reporting that (automatic way doesn't really work with that problem for whatever reason). It could also be a hardware-related problem of some sort tough, looks like my box is dying.. Well, let's give it another try.. Philipp Might be. I got to a prompt and removed GDM to get in. Try removing the gtkrc for the GDM theme the installing ubuntustudio-desktop again. Then re-enable the theme. Reboot. I know personally do a fresh install for final. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: GDM issues?
Hey I thought my box was dying too. I regressed back to regular Ubuntu Gutsy and everything worked like before. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same problem or related to the one I have? I have serious trouble logging in graphically, because gdmgreeter crashes all the time and I have trouble reporting that (automatic way doesn't really work with that problem for whatever reason). It could also be a hardware-related problem of some sort tough, looks like my box is dying.. Well, let's give it another try.. Philipp Might be. I got to a prompt and removed GDM to get in. Try removing the gtkrc for the GDM theme the installing ubuntustudio-desktop again. Then re-enable the theme. Reboot. I know personally do a fresh install for final. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: GDM issues?
Andrew Oikle wrote: Hey I thought my box was dying too. I regressed back to regular Ubuntu Gutsy and everything worked like before. The issue was coming up with select themes. Human-List also was borked. After updates things should be in working order. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: GDM issues?
Everything worked ok for me until I used the nvidia restricted drivers -or- tried to modify xorg.conf to get 1024x768 from 800x600. Is this the same issue? On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Oikle wrote: Hey I thought my box was dying too. I regressed back to regular Ubuntu Gutsy and everything worked like before. The issue was coming up with select themes. Human-List also was borked. After updates things should be in working order. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu Studio report
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I wasn't clear enough on some points, here it comes. The colour set still causes problems, klick any of the 'unlock' buttons and on 'advanced' or whatever it was, and you will see a dark-blue link on dark-grey background, unreadable. I'm not sure what you mean. Steps to reproduce? Try: main menu - system - administration - network Press the 'Unlock' Button and then on 'Details'. You should see something unreadable next to 'Action:' Yeah. I see it. org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set Plenty readable for me. :) But yeah, this is yet another example of apps that use hard-coded values that do not respect the theme. I have a running list of apps that do this. I noticed that the ubuntu studio theme has the black background as default, not one of the custom made ones. I'm not seeing this at all. Could you be more specific? I was talking about the 'Appearance' dialogue. Fun thing is that it is gone now, the default is the mixing console now. jackd could have saner default settings, for example the rt-option could be set as default, periods to 3, .. whatever. Might be something we could do foe Intrepid *but* this is such an opinion kinda thing I would be reluctant. Well, since UbStu already ships only an rt-kernel and does about everything else, why not do this as well? It would need lots of discussion as to what would be sane defaults. This would also *not* make Hardy. By default, the alsa-pcm level is set to 80%, does that make sense or serve a certain purpose? I'm not sure. I'll leave this for others. I guess it is default in ubuntu but I'm not sure about the reason. Some menu items don't have a 'tool tip', example: pure data. That's an upstream bug. Please file. By 'tool tip' I meant the tool tip in the main menu. The thing that gives a short description on the application. I noticed the lack of such a tool tip for: Jack time machine puredata sooperlooper Sure. All things that should go in the upstreams .desktop file. File a bug where you see fit. Rants and stuff for Intrepid: IMHO the colours aren't any good, they cause problems in readability, have low contrast and don't serve a purpose besides 'being cool', and that is up to debate. It does serve a purpose. The theme has come from the fact that Pro multimedia apps often use like colors. Our theme is under constant work and we do what we can. It will not change from the dark, Pro look. ;) Fixes that don't break other apps are welcome. Well, the dark makes the apps a lot more pro for sure... I don't like the menu structure, I'd love to see it more geared towards fast access. I'd like more categories in a flatter hierarchy. The current structure was the best effort from long ML chats. You're free to make a proposal. What form would be best for that? The -devel ML would be best. After using ubuntu studio since it's there I'd really like to have an official abbreviation, a two-or-so letter acronym. Writing Ubuntu Studio as a whole all the time sucks. Officially it's Ubuntu Studio or ubuntustudio in packages. Never hyphenated. But in the end, do what ya like. :P Yeah, I'll try to come up with some that are even more stupid than UbStu and use them at random to further confusion. For general stuff, I'm fine with UbuStu. :P It would be somehow nice to have Information on the applications available. Documentation? How's the status? This is on the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio I thought there was someone leading a documentation team, I wonder about the status of that. Yes. We have a lead but he has had one hell of a month or so. Can't go into details as it's personal but hopefully we can get that effort up and running soon. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
