Re: 44K vs 96K and so on

[joe atanacio]

I think I can hear the difference too but to be honest I've never been put
threw a double blind test to see if I really am right.

at the end of the day the point I was hoping to make is for the many of our
projects, 44K works fine.

In the spirit of cost effective solutions like Ubuntu Studio, 44K is less
demanding on the systems.  So we should be able to get less powerful and
less expensive systems to work well.

For those of us who want to use a higher sampling ratego for it!  But
for those of us who wont, no worries.

Joe


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Andrew Oikle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I clearly hear the difference when I record my music at 48khz vs. 44.1khz.
> Another extremely important thing to know about sampling rates and
> multitrack recording and effect plug-in chains (a mastering engineer told
> me), is data bits get mangled in the process, so the higher the sampling
> rate the more accurate interpolation you get.  He basically told me, I
> should have recorded my project at least at 48khz but ideally 96khz.  It
> sounds like the article only applies to two track final mixdowns.  I still
> hear a difference.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Pietro Bergamo <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting!
>> Do you have the article by Moran/Meyer?
>>
>> - Mensagem original 
>> De: joe atanacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Para: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion <
>> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2008 1:49:42
>> Assunto: 44K vs 96K and so on
>>
>>
>> Hey folks for all of the fretting we do recording at various sampling
>> rates with all kinds of hardware I thought the group would appreciate this
>> article. It may help us make some decisions as we buy stuff to do stuff.
>>
>> http://mixonline.com/recording/mixing/audio_emperors_new_sampling/
>>
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Res: 44K vs 96K and so on

[Pietro Bergamo]

- Mensagem original 
De: Andrew Oikle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>I clearly hear the difference when I record my music at 48khz vs. 44.1khz.  


The article is not about recording, but playback. What the guys say is that 
there is no audible difference in the playback of a SACD or DVD-A if you pass 
the signal through the CD "bottleneck". They even state that "The usefulness of 
the increased dynamic range afforded by longer word lengths for mixdown has 
never been in question".

cheers,
Pietro


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Re: 44K vs 96K and so on

[jeremija]

i agree on that one
plugins and all internal processing, recordin, editing and so on... IS 
better 2 do as high as possible (today 24-96) - it is more precise and 
higher freqs are nicer.
but for the "end-user" cd quality i really ok.
in the article people tested end-products (mastered cds and dvds), and i 
agree there too. - mastered cd sounds really good.
my oppinion on it
nikola
p.s. dont we all hear mp3s today?

Andrew Oikle wrote:
> I clearly hear the difference when I record my music at 48khz vs. 
> 44.1khz.  Another extremely important thing to know about sampling 
> rates and multitrack recording and effect plug-in chains (a mastering 
> engineer told me), is data bits get mangled in the process, so the 
> higher the sampling rate the more accurate interpolation you get.  He 
> basically told me, I should have recorded my project at least at 48khz 
> but ideally 96khz.  It sounds like the article only applies to two 
> track final mixdowns.  I still hear a difference.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Pietro Bergamo 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Very interesting!
> Do you have the article by Moran/Meyer?
>
> - Mensagem original 
> De: joe atanacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> Para: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
>  >
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2008 1:49:42
> Assunto: 44K vs 96K and so on
>
>
> Hey folks for all of the fretting we do recording at various
> sampling rates with all kinds of hardware I thought the group
> would appreciate this article.
> It may help us make some decisions as we buy stuff to do stuff.
>
> http://mixonline.com/recording/mixing/audio_emperors_new_sampling/
>
> -- 
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Re: 44K vs 96K and so on

[Andrew Oikle]

I clearly hear the difference when I record my music at 48khz vs. 44.1khz.
Another extremely important thing to know about sampling rates and
multitrack recording and effect plug-in chains (a mastering engineer told
me), is data bits get mangled in the process, so the higher the sampling
rate the more accurate interpolation you get.  He basically told me, I
should have recorded my project at least at 48khz but ideally 96khz.  It
sounds like the article only applies to two track final mixdowns.  I still
hear a difference.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Pietro Bergamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Very interesting!
> Do you have the article by Moran/Meyer?
>
> - Mensagem original 
> De: joe atanacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion <
> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2008 1:49:42
> Assunto: 44K vs 96K and so on
>
>
> Hey folks for all of the fretting we do recording at various sampling rates
> with all kinds of hardware I thought the group would appreciate this
> article.It may help us make some decisions as we buy stuff to do stuff.
>
> http://mixonline.com/recording/mixing/audio_emperors_new_sampling/
>
> --
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>
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Res: 44K vs 96K and so on

[Pietro Bergamo]

Very interesting!
Do you have the article by Moran/Meyer?


- Mensagem original 
De: joe atanacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 

Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2008 1:49:42
Assunto: 44K vs 96K and so on

Hey folks for all of the fretting we do recording at various sampling rates 
with all kinds of hardware I thought the group would appreciate this article.
It may help us make some decisions as we buy stuff to do stuff.


http://mixonline.com/recording/mixing/audio_emperors_new_sampling/

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