audio hardware selection?

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All,

Forgive me if I've posted a similar question here before...I've been asking
in so many Ubuntu forums I've forgotten.

I'm new to Ubuntu Studio and I'd like to be able to record 8 to 12 channels
of audio via usb or firewire.

I'd also like to get it working with the least amount of hassle and under
$1000 USD (under $500 USD would be nice)

To that end, does anyone have any recommendations on hardware that just
works, or nearly so?

Thanks,
Mac


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realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread sandie
Hi

I just joined this list, so please bear with me if this has been asked a 
thousand times before :-)
Is there any word about a realtime kernel in Ubustu-Ipex ? and if not... 
is there a beginners guide to building it yourself ?

Sandie

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread Cory K.
sandie wrote:
 Hi

 I just joined this list, so please bear with me if this has been asked a 
 thousand times before :-)
 Is there any word about a realtime kernel in Ubustu-Ipex ? and if not... 
 is there a beginners guide to building it yourself ?
   

Intrepid will not be *shipping* with -rt. We intend to make every effort
to get it in after release but many things will have to fall into place.
Preliminary tests show that the current Hardy -rt kernel works minus
some issues with non-free drivers but installing -generic *before*
upgrading might be a good idea. We're looking at things to make this
easier atm. Users are encouraged to stick with Hardy on production
machines. Efforts will be made to backport packages like Ardour.

As far as building -rt from scratch, I'm sure others can chime in. Note
that upstream -rt currently does not support 2.6.27. (2.6.26.5-rt9 is
latest patch) This is a part of the reason for no -rt in Intrepid.

-Cory K.

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,

i would say: wait for ubuntu-studio 8.10.

am i wrong?




sandie wrote:
 Hi

 I just joined this list, so please bear with me if this has been asked a 
 thousand times before :-)
 Is there any word about a realtime kernel in Ubustu-Ipex ? and if not... 
 is there a beginners guide to building it yourself ?

 Sandie

   


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RE: I'm gonna be a Dad!

2008-10-01 Thread Jonathan Miller
From all of us at OfferForge, CONGRATULATIONS Norio!

 

We wish you only the best for what's going to be a life changing
experience ;-)  Trust me - I know - been there twice!

Keep us updated.

 

Jon and the OfferForge.com team

 

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Sales. Results. 135,000 South African, US, Canadian, European and Pan
Asian affiliates choose OfferForge.

 

 

Hey everyone!

I don't want to miss anyone, so I've gone ahead and added everyone in my
contacts to this email.  Sorry if you don't know me very well :P

I'm gonna be a DADDY in about 9 months.

WOOHOO!

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread Steven Davies-Morris
Cory K. wrote:
 sandie wrote:
 Hi
 
 I just joined this list, so please bear with me if this has been
 asked a thousand times before :-) Is there any word about a
 realtime kernel in Ubustu-Ipex ? and if not... is there a
 beginners guide to building it yourself ?
 
 
 Intrepid will not be *shipping* with -rt. We intend to make every
 effort to get it in after release but many things will have to fall
 into place. Preliminary tests show that the current Hardy -rt
 kernel works minus some issues with non-free drivers but installing
 -generic *before* upgrading might be a good idea. We're looking at
 things to make this easier atm. Users are encouraged to stick with
 Hardy on production machines. Efforts will be made to backport
 packages like Ardour.
 
 As far as building -rt from scratch, I'm sure others can chime in.
 Note that upstream -rt currently does not support 2.6.27.
 (2.6.26.5-rt9 is latest patch) This is a part of the reason for no
 -rt in Intrepid.
 
 -Cory K.

FWIW I've tried Intrepid with the 2.2.26 rt for AMD64 for about 10
days. In one word don't. There's a laundry-list of things that cause
the system to lock up and go braindead -- many of them video and audio
driver related. But many apps appear to work on the generic kernel
(performance issues aside). And many of them appear to work in the
latest (Intrepid alpha 6) versions using the 2.2.19 rt kernel that is
available for Hardy.

I have to agree with Cory that for now Ubuntu Studio users should
stick with Hardy because the 2.2.26 rt kernel is not ready to go as
part of Intrepid, let alone as part of Ubuntu Studio Intrepid. That
may change in the next 30 days, but I suggest letting Cory et al pull
their hair out and swear at their computers dealing with the problems
of 2.2.26 rt. YMMV.
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Re: I'm gonna be a Dad!

2008-10-01 Thread David Stephens
Norio

Yes Congratulations

from: David
Long Island New York USA




  From all of us at OfferForge, CONGRATULATIONS Norio!



 We wish you only the best for what's going to be a life changing experience
 ;-)  Trust me – I know – been there twice!

 Keep us updated.



 Jon and the OfferForge.com team



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 South African, US, Canadian, European and Pan Asian affiliates 
 choose*OfferForge.
 *





 Hey everyone!

 I don't want to miss anyone, so I've gone ahead and added everyone in my
 contacts to this email.  Sorry if you don't know me very well :P

 I'm gonna be a DADDY in about 9 months.

 WOOHOO!

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Linux Day - UbuntuStudio showcase

2008-10-01 Thread Sergio Bello
Hi all.

October 25th here in Cremona (Italy) there will be a Linux Day at the
local engineering university and, 
as a member of the local Linux User Group, I will showcase UbuntuStudio
as a DAW.

I'm planning my speech (in an early stage, at the moment), and I'm
calling for
ideas/(sonic)material/suggestions/etc.

To give you an idea of what I have in mind, my target is to illustrate
audio routing via
Jack and then - as a demonstration - record 'on the fly'  an 8/16-bar
song with Ardour using:

 I. Hydrogen with a pre-built drum track
II. Rosegarden + (hw|sw) synth with a pre-built bass line
   III. Rosegarden + guitar synth to capture and then play via MIDI the
harmonic progression 
IV. my lovin' Gibson H. Roberts Fusion + JackRack for soloing


My gear:

 I. M-Audio 1010
II. Behringer patch panel
   III. Various rack/pedal effects (but I think they're unnecessary in
this context)
IV. Roland DS-5 studio monitors
 V. Electric/synth guitars
VI. Roland JV 1010 + GR 50 synth rack modules
   VII. A fast, full of memory PC with UbuntuStudio 8.04
  VIII. Everything else if available at the local music store and in
line with my pocket ;)


As I said before, any suggestion to better introduce UbuntuStudio to the
audience is welcome. 
Much more useful would be pointers to, for example, good Hydrogen
tracks/MIDI tracks/JackRack suites/SoundFonts
available on the net, so to cut my effort: I'm really busy with my work
as a developer, so I'm not 
currently 100% on this task (and I need to stretch my fingers on the
guitar, too...). 

Thanks in advance,

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gustin Johnson wrote:
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 hi,

 i would say: wait for ubuntu-studio 8.10.

 am i wrong?

 
 Or perhaps 8.10.1, I don't think that 8.10 will have an RT kernel by the
 release date.  For production machines it seems the advice is to stick
 with Hardy.
   
thats a pity. i was looking forward to ubuntu 8.10.

is it possible to get Ardour 2.5 with Ubuntu Studio 8.10(.1)?

Ardour 2 is not very stable on my system. dont know why.

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread Gustin Johnson
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or perhaps 8.10.1, I don't think that 8.10 will have an RT kernel by the
 release date.  For production machines it seems the advice is to stick
 with Hardy.
   
 thats a pity. i was looking forward to ubuntu 8.10.

It is what it is.
 
 is it possible to get Ardour 2.5 with Ubuntu Studio 8.10(.1)?
 
You can always download and compile the newest version.

 Ardour 2 is not very stable on my system. dont know why.
 
Probably you have jack set too aggressively for your hardware.  Of
course without more information this is just a shot in the dark.
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Ardour on Intrepid [was: Re: realtime?]

2008-10-01 Thread Janne Jokitalo
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 01:15:16PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
  is it possible to get Ardour 2.5 with Ubuntu Studio 8.10(.1)?
  
 You can always download and compile the newest version.

Package ardour

* intrepid (sound): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface)
* [universe]
  1:2.5-0ubuntu4: i386
  1:2.5-0ubuntu3: amd64
   also provided by: ardour-i686


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Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread Pietro Bergamo
Em Qua, 2008-10-01 às 07:42 -0700, Steven Davies-Morris escreveu:

 FWIW I've tried Intrepid with the 2.2.26 rt...
 ...aling with the problems of 2.2.26 rt. YMMV.

Hi all. 
As a non-native english speaker, I'd like to ask you, if possible, to
avoid the use of acrostics such as the ones above, because it is
sometimes hard to figure out what they mean. 
Since this is an international list, I think standard English suits it
better. IMHO. :^)
Best regards,
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Re: Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread Sean Edwards
FWIW - For what it's worth.
Meaning: You may or may not assign value to this statement.

YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary
Meaning: This is an automobile industry term, which means your results may be 
different from my results.

-=Sean Edwards=-



- Original Message 
From: Pietro Bergamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Idiom acrostics

Em Qua, 2008-10-01 às 07:42 -0700, Steven Davies-Morris escreveu:

 FWIW I've tried Intrepid with the 2.2.26 rt...
 ...aling with the problems of 2.2.26 rt. YMMV.

Hi all. 
As a non-native english speaker, I'd like to ask you, if possible, to
avoid the use of acrostics such as the ones above, because it is
sometimes hard to figure out what they mean. 
Since this is an international list, I think standard English suits it
better. IMHO. :^)
Best regards,
Pietro


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Re: Ardour on Intrepid [was: Re: realtime?]

2008-10-01 Thread Gustin Johnson
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Janne Jokitalo wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 01:15:16PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
 is it possible to get Ardour 2.5 with Ubuntu Studio 8.10(.1)?

 You can always download and compile the newest version.
 
 Package ardour
 
 * intrepid (sound): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface)
 * [universe]
   1:2.5-0ubuntu4: i386
 1:2.5-0ubuntu3: amd64
  also provided by: ardour-i686
 

To be clear, I meant that he could download and install ardour on 8.04
(or any version that meets the dependencies).

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Re: Ardour on Intrepid [was: Re: realtime?]

2008-10-01 Thread Janne Jokitalo
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 01:44:12PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
 To be clear, I meant that he could download and install ardour on 8.04
 (or any version that meets the dependencies).

Yes, I understood completely. However, at this time the question was very
specific, so I wanted to clear that confusion. :)


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Re: Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread hollunder
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:45:36 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah... now i've got it ;-)
 
 
 Sean Edwards wrote:
  FWIW - For what it's worth.
  Meaning: You may or may not assign value to this statement.
 
  YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary
  Meaning: This is an automobile industry term, which means your
  results may be different from my results.
 
  -=Sean Edwards=-
 
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Pietro Bergamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
  ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, October 1,
  2008 2:32:54 PM Subject: Idiom acrostics
 
  Em Qua, 2008-10-01 às 07:42 -0700, Steven Davies-Morris escreveu:
 

  FWIW I've tried Intrepid with the 2.2.26 rt...
  ...aling with the problems of 2.2.26 rt. YMMV.
  
 
  Hi all. 
  As a non-native english speaker, I'd like to ask you, if possible,
  to avoid the use of acrostics such as the ones above, because it is
  sometimes hard to figure out what they mean. 
  Since this is an international list, I think standard English suits
  it better. IMHO. :^)
  Best regards,
  Pietro

There's a small program on your machine that can be useful in those
cases, it's called wtf.

$ wtf ymmv
YMMV: your mileage may vary

$ wtf wtf
WTF: {what,where,who,why} the fuck

It doesn't explain the meaning but it's still helpful in most cases
(YMMV may be one of the exceptions).

Regards,
Philipp

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Re: Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread Pietro Bergamo

Em Qua, 2008-10-01 às 12:40 -0700, Sean Edwards escreveu:
 FWIW - For what it's worth.
 Meaning: You may or may not assign value to this statement.
 
 YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary
 Meaning: This is an automobile industry term, which means your results may be 
 different from my results.
 

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Re: Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread Pietro Bergamo

Em Qua, 2008-10-01 às 23:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 There's a small program on your machine that can be useful in those
 cases, it's called wtf.
 
 $ wtf ymmv
 YMMV: your mileage may vary
 
 $ wtf wtf
 WTF: {what,where,who,why} the fuck
 
 It doesn't explain the meaning but it's still helpful in most cases
 (YMMV may be one of the exceptions).
 
 Regards,
   Philipp
 

Thank you too!


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Re: Idiom acrostics

2008-10-01 Thread sandie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's a small program on your machine that can be useful in those
 cases, it's called wtf.

   
Thanks :-)

Cool little app

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Re: realtime?

2008-10-01 Thread sandie
Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
 FWIW I've tried Intrepid with the 2.2.26 rt for AMD64 for about 10
 days. In one word don't. There's a laundry-list of things that cause
 the system to lock up and go braindead -- many of them video and audio
 driver related. But many apps appear to work on the generic kernel
 (performance issues aside). And many of them appear to work in the
 latest (Intrepid alpha 6) versions using the 2.2.19 rt kernel that is
 available for Hardy.

 I have to agree with Cory that for now Ubuntu Studio users should
 stick with Hardy because the 2.2.26 rt kernel is not ready to go as
 part of Intrepid, let alone as part of Ubuntu Studio Intrepid. That
 may change in the next 30 days, but I suggest letting Cory et al pull
 their hair out and swear at their computers dealing with the problems
 of 2.2.26 rt. YMMV.
   
A non-rt kernel is realy not an option for me, I can't run any of my 
apps :-( at least not with the preformance I'm used to.

I managed to install the rt-kernel (32bit) from the repros, a 173 Nvidia 
driver (the 177 didnt work for me), Wine and Wineasio, and have been 
trying to crash the system for an hour now, without any luck :-)
I use EnergyXT2 with (win)vsti's for drums, bass and keyboards, and then 
record guitar, vocals and other analog thingies.

But lets say (for the sake of the argument) that I don't know anything 
about kernels ;-)
Will I still be using all the new stuff in 8.10, xorg, qt ?
And will the kernel be updated automaticly when the new one arrive ?

Kind regards
Sandie

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