Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Chris Wenn wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 00:43 -0800, Eric Hedekar wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Cory K. wrote: >> We've done minor changes to the list of audio applications >> since Feisty. >> But over 2 years things can pop up that we miss. >> >> So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or >> replacements for old >> stand-bys out there? >> >> And this is just a chat about the current applications being >> included in >> -audio. (we're aware of the underlying technical issues) >> >> >> -Cory K. > > Pd-extended definitely has to be included, if it's not already. It's a > version of PureData with most of the additional libraries and externals > included. > > Chris > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > I'll second Pd-extended over the vanilla Pd and the small number of externals that are currently included. cheers, ernie -- Ernie Dulanowsky www.pulsewidth.ca oblique: Decorate, decorate -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Good to know - is there anything tricky you have found about running PPC Linux (or whatever its called) on your G3 machine? Mine I think is a 400Mz with about 700M of RAM. ld On Feb 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sean Edwards wrote: > I have a G3 Blue and White running Debian because I don't have the > time to tweak a real-time kernel for it right now. Sometimes I use > ecasound on the command line for mastering from my analog mixer. > > -=Sean Edwards=- > > > > - Original Message > From: Larry David > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion us...@lists.ubuntu.com> > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:51:43 PM > Subject: Re: Learning Linux > > Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will > probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I > assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to > learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. > > ld > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Karoliina Salminen wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David >> wrote: >>> I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a >>> book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable >>> installing and troubleshooting UBS? >> >> Well, just download the Ubuntu CD and try it out. >> It is so easy to use and install, that you don't need a book to do >> that. >> I would bet that these days one needs more mouse clicks and trouble >> shooting >> in installing Windows. The only thing that beats Ubuntu installation >> in easiness is >> installing the MacOSX. But the difference is quite thin nowadays. >> Ubuntu is really easy >> to install and work on. You don't need to compile kernels and do >> programming yourself to use >> the Ubuntu. Linux used to be like that a long time ago, but those >> times are long gone. >> There was long a discussion if Linux is ready for desktop use, and >> the >> time it has >> been ready has been now already couple of years and Ubuntu is getting >> on each release better and better. >> The 6 month release cycle is very rapid and things change for better >> at amazing rate. >> >> Best Regards, >> Karoliina Salminen >> (running couple of Ubuntu computers) >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ >> listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
On Feb 3, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Sean Edwards wrote: > When I first started with Linux in 1994, the only documentation > available was a readme file. And before I became proficient with > the fips utility, I did trash a few 20MB and 40MB hard drives. > Kernel compile time on a 386SX was measured in DAYS and getting a > serial modem to work involved duct tape, bailing wire and a rubber > chicken! I can't see how a rubber chicken would be useful in getting a modem running; I just can't. :-P > > When it was easy to hack on to the internet (mostly human > engineering a phone number userid and password from a university), > I stumbled upon The Linux Documentation Project. For a noob, there > is still a lot of good information therel. Some if it is a little > dated, but sit down at that site with some coffee and read. A > whole world of understanding will open up to you: http://tldp.org/ Sweet, thanks for the link - reminds me of A Beginners Guide To HTML that I found in 1995 when I was appointed the "webmaster" of my group at GM - though I was just a glorified tube jockey (aka CAD operator), not an admin. "Hey Larry, figure this 'web' thing out and make us a 'home page' - with a cool picture of a Sunfire on it..." ld > > -=Sean Edwards=- > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Questions for a new configuration
Maurizio De Cecco schrieb: > I am thinking about upgrading my studio, and this time i would move > from a Windows only environment to a mixed Linux/Windows one (sorry, > i cannot drop windows, i have 15 years of music stored in proprietary, > undocumented format, sigh :-<). > > So, i have a couple of question: > > 1) Would Ubuntu Studio (or any Ubuntu, actually) works on a Core i7 processor > ? I am specifically thinking to a noisy Dell Studio XPS. > > 2) Is there any reasonably priced internal or USB or Firewire sound interface > with at least 8 analogues input that works with Ubuntu Studio > without too much troubles ? > > Thanks, > Maurizio De Cecco > > > Ad 2): Edirol FA 101, ~ 400 Euro(GE), for me no troubles in U-Studio 32&64bit (stationary pc with firewire pci card and a notebook with fw onboard). Best regards Gerhard -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Jack patchbay
Hi, I understand the connection window in Jack just fine...I think. But, I don't grock the patchbay. Can't seem to get it to show connections except between system node and ardour node. Doesn't show connections between in & outs. Add new and select snapshot and doesn't restore what I've wired in connections. What am I missing? Regards, Mac mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
RE: Questions for a new configuration
> > >Original Message: >- >From: Maurizio De Cecco j...@dececco.name >Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:32:41 +0100 >To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: Questions for a new configuration > > >I am thinking about upgrading my studio, and this time i would move >from a Windows only environment to a mixed Linux/Windows one (sorry, >i cannot drop windows, i have 15 years of music stored in proprietary, >undocumented format, sigh :-<). > >So, i have a couple of question: > >1) Would Ubuntu Studio (or any Ubuntu, actually) works on a Core i7 processor ? I am specifically thinking to a noisy Dell Studio XPS. > >2) Is there any reasonably priced internal or USB or Firewire sound interface with at least 8 analogues input that works with Ubuntu Studio >without too much troubles ? > Maurizio, I have Del XPS1530 laptop and I use it with an FP10. In general it has always worked. Seems to work even better with Hardy 64bit and the latest versions of Jack and ffado. Mac mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trolls/humans
Ok, ok, ok. This has run it's course. Let's *try* to get back to some more of the more important topics. Like some of the one's that actually shape future Studio releases. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trolls/humans
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Peter Geirnaert wrote: > > Luther wrote: >> > Yes it was worth posting. I've been a member of this list for barely 2 >> > months and I'm ashamed to say that your exchange with Kim is one of the >> > worst I've ever seen in over 5 years of forum/email list posting. I am >> > a member of 7 different list subject areas with most having multiple >> > sublists. As a leader, you lead by example, *either bad or good.* >> >> Exactly. >> >> I'm human just like everyone else and will not put myself above others. >> If you think I should be put on some pedestal, so be it. To be any other >> way is fake to me. I ain't that guy. >> >> The second people start to think they are somehow better than each other >> is when worse issues arise IMO. >> >> >> -Cory K. >> > > Thanks Cory, for your example of true leadership. > This is *so* immature. Face the facts: people get upset, angry, irritated, whatever else - and say things they shouldn't say. It's an imperfect world. To those who are still upset with Cory: I'm sure you've made a post somewhere on the web that was way worse. Shall I dig it up? Sure, he's supposed to be a leader - but doesn't that mean you should be a little more forgiving? Grow up already. -- Christopher Stamper Email: christopherstam...@gmail.com Web: http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg gTalk: http://tinyurl.com/6e359r Skype: cdstamper -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
When I first started with Linux in 1994, the only documentation available was a readme file. And before I became proficient with the fips utility, I did trash a few 20MB and 40MB hard drives. Kernel compile time on a 386SX was measured in DAYS and getting a serial modem to work involved duct tape, bailing wire and a rubber chicken! When it was easy to hack on to the internet (mostly human engineering a phone number userid and password from a university), I stumbled upon The Linux Documentation Project. For a noob, there is still a lot of good information therel. Some if it is a little dated, but sit down at that site with some coffee and read. A whole world of understanding will open up to you: http://tldp.org/ -=Sean Edwards=- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Work/workflow examples?
I don't know about UBS specifically, but I do know Jazz guitarist and composer Carols Pino uses a lot of the same Linux audio utilities for his tracks. He uses a Knoppix based distro called Musix. -=Sean Edwards=- - Original Message From: sandie To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:01:36 PM Subject: Re: Work/workflow examples? Larry David wrote: > I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are > doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks. > Audio examples/clips would be great. Or just basic descriptions. > > You can hear a few of my songs on my website : http://www.sandgreen.dk/index.php?side=musik_sandsound And I have posted my setup here : http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=558 /Sandie -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
I have a G3 Blue and White running Debian because I don't have the time to tweak a real-time kernel for it right now. Sometimes I use ecasound on the command line for mastering from my analog mixer. -=Sean Edwards=- - Original Message From: Larry David To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:51:43 PM Subject: Re: Learning Linux Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. ld On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Karoliina Salminen wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David > wrote: >> I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a >> book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable >> installing and troubleshooting UBS? > > Well, just download the Ubuntu CD and try it out. > It is so easy to use and install, that you don't need a book to do > that. > I would bet that these days one needs more mouse clicks and trouble > shooting > in installing Windows. The only thing that beats Ubuntu installation > in easiness is > installing the MacOSX. But the difference is quite thin nowadays. > Ubuntu is really easy > to install and work on. You don't need to compile kernels and do > programming yourself to use > the Ubuntu. Linux used to be like that a long time ago, but those > times are long gone. > There was long a discussion if Linux is ready for desktop use, and the > time it has > been ready has been now already couple of years and Ubuntu is getting > on each release better and better. > The 6 month release cycle is very rapid and things change for better > at amazing rate. > > Best Regards, > Karoliina Salminen > (running couple of Ubuntu computers) > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Questions for a new configuration
I am thinking about upgrading my studio, and this time i would move from a Windows only environment to a mixed Linux/Windows one (sorry, i cannot drop windows, i have 15 years of music stored in proprietary, undocumented format, sigh :-<). So, i have a couple of question: 1) Would Ubuntu Studio (or any Ubuntu, actually) works on a Core i7 processor ? I am specifically thinking to a noisy Dell Studio XPS. 2) Is there any reasonably priced internal or USB or Firewire sound interface with at least 8 analogues input that works with Ubuntu Studio without too much troubles ? Thanks, Maurizio De Cecco -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Work/workflow examples?
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:36:25 -0500 Larry David wrote: > First let me say thank you to everyone who has replied so helpfully > to my questioning posts so far. In looking back at them I notice > that I tend to put lots of questions or comments in a single post, > and that (not surprisingly) some of them go by without any > response. So I will try to be more specific and brief. :^) > > I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are > doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks. > Audio examples/clips would be great. Or just basic descriptions. > > For example right now I use Digital Performer to do multitrack > recording in a variety of styles - rock, classical, folk, electronic > - using digital and analog synths, electric bass/gtr, and a variety > of acoustic instruments. My system can't handle softsynths and > multitracking simultaneously, but I would like to get into them. I > use a modest amount of FX plugins, but would like to use them more > too. > > I'd love to hear similar descriptions of people's work/workflow in > UBS - the more details the better, but even a brief summary would be > helpful. > > Thanks, > ld Hi Larry, I agree that workflow examples would be great and very helpful. Audio in Linux is different in some ways, starting with jack and ending probably somewhere out there.. Workflow examples could lead a lot of people by example and at the same time serve as basic tutorials for the applications involved. Those workflows could be demonstrated in various ways, via text, pictures, audio or video. Something like that could serve not only the ubuntu studio community really well but the Linux Audio community as a whole. All we need is someone to take this on, start it, and lead by example ;) Best, Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry David schrieb: > On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote: > > Cory K. schrieb: > manager, has been removed. :) "Specimen" the sampler, I *think* > >> Can it load popular formats, or only samples recorded in Specimen? >> "Loaded WAV files" suggests it can read any WAV file, It can -not more not less. It organizes plain WAV-files in Banks based on XML-files and handles SR-conversion. So it is a handy tool for anyone, who is used to use simple WAV-files in Samplers, for others, who prefer Sondfonts or GIG-files it is not the perfec choice... > > best regs > > HZN >> - -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIMokACgkQ1Aecwva1SWMn9ACdFOthGgFgANzOlv+rPer+qj22 GlUAoIUYdFwUu+rxf5HSwNFaQyW/fOOS =w/lT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trolls/humans
> Luther wrote: > > Yes it was worth posting. I've been a member of this list for barely 2 > > months and I'm ashamed to say that your exchange with Kim is one of the > > worst I've ever seen in over 5 years of forum/email list posting. I am > > a member of 7 different list subject areas with most having multiple > > sublists. As a leader, you lead by example, *either bad or good.* > > Exactly. > > I'm human just like everyone else and will not put myself above others. > If you think I should be put on some pedestal, so be it. To be any other > way is fake to me. I ain't that guy. > > The second people start to think they are somehow better than each other > is when worse issues arise IMO. > > > -Cory K. > Thanks Cory, for your example of true leadership. I can't imagine a world with FOSS with people who didn't free their ass from that mony-see-monkey-do mentality of following the leaders like a bunch of brainwashed slaves. Thanks also to remind us all that besides "good or bad" , there's also "the ugly", a part that is kept secret by the world's leaders. As this is all of-topic for this list, where can we go to talk about freedom in a society, to build a society that is compatible with FOSS ? I'm not interested in running "free" software in a prison society ... Thanks again Cory, and thanks to all people who give me a little hope in life by providing Free Open Source Software. In Freedom, Peter Geirnaert. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 00:43 -0800, Eric Hedekar wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Cory K. wrote: > We've done minor changes to the list of audio applications > since Feisty. > But over 2 years things can pop up that we miss. > > So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or > replacements for old > stand-bys out there? > > And this is just a chat about the current applications being > included in > -audio. (we're aware of the underlying technical issues) > > > -Cory K. Pd-extended definitely has to be included, if it's not already. It's a version of PureData with most of the additional libraries and externals included. Chris -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Cory K. wrote: > We've done minor changes to the list of audio applications since Feisty. > But over 2 years things can pop up that we miss. > > So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or replacements for old > stand-bys out there? > > And this is just a chat about the current applications being included in > -audio. (we're aware of the underlying technical issues) > > > -Cory K. > I have to vote for Rezound. It's a very feature-rich and stable audio editor, I know Audacity is included already, but I find it to be buggy at the best of times. I'd like to advocate for inclusion of Rezound but not the exclusion of Audacity - if that could be considered. My other feelings include (but are not limited to - and yes I know this deviates from the thread topic of already packaged apps): LMMS - should be updated from 0.3.2 to 0.4.2 and included (I've begun looking into this package update). 0.3.2 is too buggy to include. Denemo - should be updated to 0.8.2 or dropped (musescore is up to date and is included) though I don't use either (prefer lilypond) so maybe I'm misguided. LV2 - this standard needs to be pushed into UbuntuStudio (I'll try to help). -Eric -- ___ http://greyrockstudio.blogspot.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
Cory K. wrote: > Gustin Johnson wrote: >> Hartmut Noack wrote: >> >>> At the other hand I would drop Bristol - I never saw this synth working >>> OK anywhere (ist the same on Fedora and Suse) so I dont think, that it >>> should be included for it only casts frustration upon beginners - it >>> should be available in universe though... >> I am a big fan of Bristol. I do build it by hand since the packaged >> version is getting stale. > > Oh wow. Right. There's an open bug about it. I'll try to poke the guy > who said he'd update it. > > Normally I don't care about being a *little* behind, but this is quite old. > Later this year I should have some more time to properly maintain a couple of packages. Right now our CLUG (of which I am currently an exec) has a few irons in the fire so I would hate to commit to something that I was unable to deliver for. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
