Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a Delta 1010lt. Okay, but I tried to get an Output with Audacious, with mp123, with mpg123-alsa... Nothing, everytime the same result: The level-meters show a signal, but nothing is coming out of speakers... Does anyone have an idea? Background: I can send back the soundcard if it does not work. So already now the second question: If the M-Audio 66 is not the only card you would suggest, what else may I buy and works under Linux? I know that you certainly will support me here to get this working, but from my point of view, it does not really help me nor do all of you have the time to look what's wrong on my system... I'd prefer to et it working, yes, but if there is another card for recording that works out of the box on ubuntu studio, well, then the solution is quite near! Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
In envy24control you need to make sure that the ADC's and DAC's are turned up, that the signal is being routed to pcm outs, that your clock is set to a reasonable setting. (I once accidentally set my clock to sync to spdif and couldn't change the clock settings till I plugged in a digital source), and that you don't have any of the channels muted in the mixer. Also go to the command line and type in alsa-mixer and check that your levels are turned up there as well. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, dennism...@gmx.net wrote: I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a Delta 1010lt. Okay, but I tried to get an Output with Audacious, with mp123, with mpg123-alsa... Nothing, everytime the same result: The level-meters show a signal, but nothing is coming out of speakers... Does anyone have an idea? Background: I can send back the soundcard if it does not work. So already now the second question: If the M-Audio 66 is not the only card you would suggest, what else may I buy and works under Linux? I know that you certainly will support me here to get this working, but from my point of view, it does not really help me nor do all of you have the time to look what's wrong on my system... I'd prefer to et it working, yes, but if there is another card for recording that works out of the box on ubuntu studio, well, then the solution is quite near! Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Dennis, Personally, i wouldn't send back your card. The M-audio hardware has stable and reliable drivers (modules) in linux, and there's plenty of users who have much success with them, me included. (Mine's a Delta 44, but the Ice1712 module is still the same) The fact you're getting a signal in Envy24 is a good sign. So follow the signal. Up to Envy24, you have success, as the meters show. Daniel quite rightly suggested you check your ADCs and DACs. Do so, and put them up to a reasonable level. Next, if you're getting a signal in the digital mixer strip, that's good too, it means the signal is getting that far. In the patchbay/router tab of Envy 24, make sure you have ticked: PCM Out 1, PCM Out 2, etc.. And in the Analog Volume tab, lift the levels to something reasonable that won't be too soft to hear, or conversly, frighten the neighbours. 90 would probably do here to begin with. Try your sound again. If successful, excellent. If not, read on.. So to a test app. Audacity is't a good choice. If you're on UBStudio (and i assume this from the list heading), then i suggest you download through synpatic, a simple synth to test with. When i first started figuring out how to use Linux Audio, i used an app call Hexter. It's a simple DX7 emulator, and possesses single audio out and midi in, and importantly, gives you an immediate response, be it success or temporary failure, because it's a synth, and doesn't require extra sound libraries or soundfonts. So how do you hook your midi keyboard into Hexter? At kernel level, you'll find Alsa, and your ice1712 module is inserted there. But a level above that is the mighty Jack, a powerful 'Hub' that enables you have several apps, or 'clients' working together at the same time. Jack intereacts with Alsa using a 'backend', which is the software sound device of your choice, be it Alsa, oss, Ffado, Freebob, or dummy. So the next step is to install, from Synaptic, Jackd, and Qjackctl. This will give you not only the Jack Hub, or Server, as it's called, but a user interface in the form of Qjackctl (Also known as Jack Control). Once you've done this, open Qjackctl, and go to setup. In the setup window, you'll find some settings on the right, starting from near the top, which is the driver selection. As you've already had success with an Alsa/Envy signal response, choose Alsa. Next, you'll see a drop down box marked Interface. You can leave this as default for now, provided you selected Alsa as the sound weapon of choice. Then go down to Audio. Here you 'll see three dropdown options, Duplex, Capture, and Playback. For now, leave this on duplex. Next, you'll see input device, and output device, These are, by default, set on, erm, default. With the arrow to the right of each box check the device. Mine has Delta 44 as hw:0, and Ice1712 as hw:0.0. If this is the case with you, then leave these as default, for now. Now go to the middle of the setup window, and find Frames/Period (leave the priority selection alone for now.) We'll try a relaxed setting first of 1024. Then sample rate. Check in the Envy24 hardware settings tab, for which sample rate you have ticked. (Mine is 44100, but many users run with 48000, so if you hav either of these, it's ok) Back to the Qjackctl setup window. Set the samplerate to that which matches your Envy hardware setting. (In my case it's 44100) Next, Periods/Buffer. Set this to a safe 3. Next settings are Port Maximum, and Timeout. You can leave the Port Max as is, but change the Timeout to 2000, as this will give your system some 'slack' to work with. Then go to Start Delay, and make this 2secs, if it isn't already. Lastly, go to the bottom left corner of the setup window, and choose a midi
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Hi all, Personally, i wouldn't send back your card. The M-audio hardware has stable and reliable drivers (modules) in linux, and there's plenty of users who have much success with them, me included. (Mine's a Delta 44, but the Ice1712 module is still the same) So sounds good... I keep on hoping, but right now, I am close to give up... The fact you're getting a signal in Envy24 is a good sign. So follow the signal. Up to Envy24, you have success, as the meters show. Daniel quite rightly suggested you check your ADCs and DACs. Do so, and put them up to a reasonable level. Next, if you're getting a signal in the digital mixer strip, that's good too, it means the signal is getting that far. In the patchbay/router tab of Envy 24, make sure you have ticked: PCM Out 1, PCM Out 2, etc.. I checked this, all options on the top are activated. And in the Analog Volume tab, lift the levels to something reasonable that won't be too soft to hear, or conversly, frighten the neighbours. 90 would probably do here to begin with. Try your sound again. I did this, too... If successful, excellent. No, unfortunately, not. Here a few questions: What are your settings in the system setup (where you can select standard devices for playback of sound, videos etc)? Additionally, I tried to use alsamixer, but no matter what I did - no output. So to a test app. Audacity is't a good choice. What I did is to play the mp3-file with both mpg123 and mpg123-alsa. No sound... :( If you're on UBStudio (and i assume this from the list heading), then i suggest you download through synpatic, a simple synth to test with. When i first started figuring out how to use Linux Audio, i used an app call Hexter. It's a simple DX7 emulator, and possesses single audio out and midi in, and importantly, gives you an immediate response, be it success or temporary failure, because it's a synth, and doesn't require extra sound libraries or soundfonts. Well, I guess if I don't even get an mp3 file to play, I shouldn't start with any recording or playback software delivered with ubuntu studio... So how do you hook your midi keyboard into Hexter? Not at all - because I do not own a midi keyboard till now. I only want to record my bass guitar. And, btw, I don't get any signal on the inputs as well shown in envy At kernel level, you'll find Alsa, and your ice1712 module is inserted there. $ lsmod | grep 1712 snd_ice171274336 2 snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 5888 1 snd_ice1712 snd_ak4xxx_adda10880 2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx snd_cs8427 11904 1 snd_ice1712 snd_ac97_codec123992 1 snd_ice1712 snd_pcm93320 4 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss snd_i2c 7936 2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427 snd_mpu401_uart11392 1 snd_ice1712 snd71880 26 snd_rtctimer,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device So I guess this sould work?!? But a level above that is the mighty Jack, a powerful 'Hub' that enables you have several apps, or 'clients' working together at the same time. Jack intereacts with Alsa using a 'backend', which is the software sound device of your choice, be it Alsa, oss, Ffado, Freebob, or dummy. So the next step is to install, from Synaptic, Jackd, and Qjackctl. This will give you not only the Jack Hub, or Server, as it's called, but a user interface in the form of Qjackctl (Also known as Jack Control). Well, jack comes afterwards. If I don't get any output right now, I won be successful with jack in any way, or? That's why I believe we first have to get sound output working at all and then go to jack - or am I wrong? p.s. Setting up audio/midi in linux in general isn't as difficult as it looks. It's just different, and requires a little thought and patience on the part of the user. And we've all been where you are now. :) I really want to believe you - but if you see that all people owning the same soundcard as you do and they do get output through speakers while I don't... Well, I beginn to get crazy a little bit now. But perhaps we find the cause? I really hope so. Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
One other thing. Is pulseaudio running. You might try typing 'killall pulseaudio' in a terminal and then test again. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
One other thing. Is pulseaudio running. You might try typing 'killall pulseaudio' in a terminal and then test again. The idea was good: $ ps aux | grep pulse michael 5904 0.0 0.4 140344 8552 ?Sl 18:15 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --log-target=syslog michael 5912 0.0 0.1 55680 2632 ?S18:15 0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper michael 6585 0.0 0.0 5176 864 pts/2S+ 18:53 0:00 grep pulse $ killall -9 pulseaudio $ ps aux | grep pulse michael 6595 0.0 0.0 5172 852 pts/2S+ 18:53 0:00 grep pulse But... still no sound output... :( Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Dennis, i'm trying to think through what might be happening that we're not seeing. A quick question. Have you increased the volume on the control in the desktop panel? (Grasping for fruitful straws here.) Alex. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Dennis, i'm trying to think through what might be happening that we're not seeing. A quick question. Have you increased the volume on the control in the desktop panel? Well, I know that this is some of the most ridiculous things that may happen, so yes: I did that before trying to play something. What I still didn't get is all this connection between all the programs I am using here: Generally, I thought that programs like alsamixer and envy24control are controlling the same thing. And if I change a level of a fader in alsamixer, I see the same fader moving in envy. What concerns the control in the desktop panel: This one generally also does that, or? Did I misunderstood here something completely? Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Can you check in Envy24 to see if your monitor inputs are unmuted? They seem to be unmunted: They are light grey, not dark grey. But this leads us to another point: Should I see any level moving here? I don't think so, because on the monitor inputs I can control the 4 hardware inputs of the break out box plus the 2 spdif inputs, as far as I see. Or am I wrong? Anyway, for today, I think I should switch my PC off, because I'm really getting desperate. I was thinking about what can be done about this and I just wanted to propose that if any of you would like to check this on my PC, I would be willing to give ssh access to it. Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Dennis Herber kirjoitti: Did I misunderstood here something completely? Today I have four Ubuntu (two stable versions and two Jaunty Alpha) in my main computer, even LTSP (ltsp.org) works on KVM with Pulseaudio. To me Delta 66 has always been real Plug 'n' Play soundcard - you remember time when everything was Plug 'n' Pray... There is very old (2002) howto for Delta 66: http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/wer/batke/Download/delta66howto.pdf Today you just put this soundcard it in and it works. Let's do something with that old howto. Do same in your computer. 1. cat /proc/asound/cards - OK to me. 0 [M66]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 66 M Audio Delta 66 at 0x1040, irq 22 1 [U0x46d0x990]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x990 USB Device 0x46d:0x990 at usb-:00:1d.7-1.2, high speed #1 is webcam with built-in microphone. 2. alsamixer -D hw:0 - OK to me. 3. aplay *.wav - OK to me. mpg123 -w 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.wav 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3. Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Title : Drive My CarArtist: The Beatles Album : Rubber Soul Year : 1965 Comment: Genre : Playing MPEG stream from 01 - Drive My Car.mp3 ... MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo [2:30] Decoding of 01 - Drive My Car.mp3 finished. aplay 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.wav Toistetaan WAVE '01 - Drive My Car.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Taajuus 44100 Hz, Stereo If you are OK in every three point, then I really do not understand why you can't hear anything. Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/wer/batke/Download/delta66howto.pdf I have my sound card I have my sound card working!! I set a diferent model for my Delta66 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. I put “options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt”. I had recently installed Ubuntu Studio 8.04 Kernel 2.6.24-16-rt All seems to be equal till I raise up DAC4 and DAC5 volumes in AnalogVolume tab on Envy24Control. Move DAC6 and DAC7 to. http://ardour.org/node/1198 Dennis, I do not need that, but who knows, maybe that option works for you. Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users