tracking down xruns

2009-04-08 Thread sue...@empire.net
Sorry, for double post, added Subject:

Hi,

Since discovering that the nvidia drivers do a horrible job of managing the
on board laptop screen and a VGA outboard monitor I've been testing with
only the laptop screen.

I've been slowly removing things that suck up resources. For instance I was
getting an xrun or ffado/jack crash each time the network did an update
(not a dhcp lease update, I use static IP, but apparently the net drivers
do some check periodically). So, I unloaded the net during recording.

At this point, virtually every test, records for approximately 10 minutes
gets an xrun or crash. If it gets just a xrun, it will then continue to
record xrun free for as long as I run the test, so far up to an 1.5 hours.

The xrun is coincident with activities that show up in the system logs.

Software involved is Ubuntu 8.04, Ardour/jack/ffado.
hardware: Dell dual core latop, dual Audiofire12's

Any experience or ideas about what I might adjust to address this would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Mac


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Audio Apps as Root?

2009-04-08 Thread Christopher Stamper
I noticed this posted on the list:

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, laurent.bellegarde 
laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote:

 in a terminal, launch qjackctl with a sudo qjackctl to be root, the RT
 kernel is fine until 2,9 ms with the both sound card !!! What a big
 suprise !!!


 Are you supposed to launch qjackctl as root?

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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:28:37AM EST, laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 Under jaunty with rt, i get a error when i tried to tick RT check box,

Try adding yourself to the audio group, and see if you can use jack realtime.

Luke

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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread sue...@empire.net
Is there a web page the shows what versions of Ardour and jack are in
UBStudio 9 beta iso?

Is ffado included? If so what version?

Mac


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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread asmo . koskinen
 Is there a web page the shows what versions of Ardour and jack are in
 UBStudio 9 beta iso? Is ffado included? If so what version?

I used Ubuntu Studio Beta last sunday, over one hour recording - it went
just fine.

Acer Travelmate 6592
Echo Audiofire 4
TSM MT87 S

ffado 2.0~rc1 - http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libffado0
jackd 0.116.1 - http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/jackd
ardour2 2.7.1 - http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ardour

Search for packages:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.


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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread laurent.bellegarde
Cory K. a écrit :
 laurent.bellegarde wrote:
   
 So packagers have to correct this problem of right to allow simple user 
 (here it's laurent) to launch qjackctl with RT kernel as in hardy, and 
 everythnig is ok.
 

 This should already be done by default with the -audio package /or/ it's
 done with Ubuntu Studio Controls.


 -Cory K.

   
Hi again,

i've done a new reboot, compared hardy's limits.conf to jaunty'one, and so

hardy'one working :


@audio  -   rtprio  99

@audio - memlock 999844

jaunty'one working but if i launch with sudo

@audio - memlock 770240
@audio - rtprio 99
@audio - nice -10

so I check ubuntustudio controls, everything is ok, the limits.conf is 
like the controls in GUI.

then i have a look to laurent un user, and see that in groups, there was 
no audio group. I add one, and tick laurent and root as members of this 
group, i've done a new reboot, and now i can launch qjackctl + ardour on 
RT without any xruns at 2,9ms latency !!!

what is surprising is that in hardy, i check audio group presence, 
there's none !!! but qjackctl is available as none root ???
But now, I understand why in hardy, changing the size of allowed memory 
change nothing face to the ardour message which was telling me there was 
a limit in my system...that's normal, because laurent is not in an audio 
group, so limits.conf can't work...

So I can't explain why in same condition hardy settings are working and 
why jaunty not, but after adding an audio group, and tick your account 
user in it, a reboot, it works perfectly...

RT kernel is ok for stable release the 23 of april...

Laurent

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Re: Jaunty package versions?

2009-04-08 Thread Cory K.
asmo.koski...@arkki.info wrote:
 Search for packages:

 http://packages.ubuntu.com

There's also a Ubuntu package search drop-down in Firefox.


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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread Cory K.
laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 Hi again,

 i've done a new reboot, compared hardy's limits.conf to jaunty'one, and so

 hardy'one working :


 @audio  -   rtprio  99

 @audio - memlock 999844

 jaunty'one working but if i launch with sudo

 @audio - memlock 770240
 @audio - rtprio 99
 @audio - nice -10

 so I check ubuntustudio controls, everything is ok, the limits.conf is 
 like the controls in GUI.

 then i have a look to laurent un user, and see that in groups, there was 
 no audio group. I add one, and tick laurent and root as members of this 
 group, i've done a new reboot, and now i can launch qjackctl + ardour on 
 RT without any xruns at 2,9ms latency !!!

 what is surprising is that in hardy, i check audio group presence, 
 there's none !!! but qjackctl is available as none root ???
 But now, I understand why in hardy, changing the size of allowed memory 
 change nothing face to the ardour message which was telling me there was 
 a limit in my system...that's normal, because laurent is not in an audio 
 group, so limits.conf can't work...

 So I can't explain why in same condition hardy settings are working and 
 why jaunty not, but after adding an audio group, and tick your account 
 user in it, a reboot, it works perfectly...

 RT kernel is ok for stable release the 23 of april...

Ok. Thanx for the info. Maybe something can be done before Jaunty
releases. Luke can say definitively.


-Cory K.


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Re: Jaunty beta + RT + Jackd + Ardour, it works ;-D

2009-04-08 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:24:03AM EST, laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 then i have a look to laurent un user, and see that in groups, there was 
 no audio group. I add one, and tick laurent and root as members of this 
 group, i've done a new reboot, and now i can launch qjackctl + ardour on 
 RT without any xruns at 2,9ms latency !!!

Yes I've just confirmed this. This should be fixed as of the next daily CD 
images for fresh installs.

Luke


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Re: Jaunty package versions?

2009-04-08 Thread sue...@empire.net
asmo.koski...@arkki.info wrote:
 Search for packages:

 http://packages.ubuntu.com

There's also a Ubuntu package search drop-down in Firefox.

Thanks.

I guess it's time to jaunty a try.


If one installs the beta, will Synaptic show an update available when when
it releases?




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Re: Jaunty package versions?

2009-04-08 Thread Cory K.
sue...@empire.net wrote:
 If one installs the beta, will Synaptic show an update available when when
 it releases?
   

Don't grab the beta. Use a daily.
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily Maybe even wait for Luke's
changes to hit. So, a day or so.

Updates will come as they occur.


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Kernel-rt

2009-04-08 Thread Loop Dundee
Hi there,

today I have made some experience with the actual kernel-rt on my
notebook hd-dv6000, intel, ICH8. (ubuntu-9-04-beta).

Like the other tests with the kernel-rt, the acpi-subsystem can not
control the fanspeed. The fancontrol doesnt't work. The rest works nice,
also the shutdown works now correct. And certainly the sound.

The generic kernel works very fine and makes a stable system impression.

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Re: Jaunty package versions?

2009-04-08 Thread sue...@empire.net


Original Message:
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From: Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:46:30 -0400
To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Jaunty package versions?


Cory K. wrote:
Don't grab the beta. Use a daily.
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily Maybe even wait for Luke's
changes to hit. So, a day or so.

Updates will come as they occur.

What is the difference between:

20090408/

and

current/





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Re: Audio Apps as Root?

2009-04-08 Thread David Hughes
yeah, it helps.  and then run all audio you want to jack as root as well.
pulse audio doesn't require the root, and lets you cast across the server.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Christopher Stamper 
christopherstam...@gmail.com wrote:

 I noticed this posted on the list:

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, laurent.bellegarde 
 laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote:

 in a terminal, launch qjackctl with a sudo qjackctl to be root, the RT
 kernel is fine until 2,9 ms with the both sound card !!! What a big
 suprise !!!


  Are you supposed to launch qjackctl as root?

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Re: Audio Apps as Root?

2009-04-08 Thread Gustin Johnson
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Christopher Stamper wrote:
 I noticed this posted on the list:
 
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, laurent.bellegarde
 laurent.bellega...@free.fr mailto:laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote:
 
 in a terminal, launch qjackctl with a sudo qjackctl to be root, the RT
 kernel is fine until 2,9 ms with the both sound card !!! What a big
 suprise !!!
 
 
  Are you supposed to launch qjackctl as root?
 
No, that is what the audio group and /etc/security/limits.conf are for.

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Re: Audio Apps as Root?

2009-04-08 Thread laurent.bellegarde
Gustin Johnson a écrit :
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 Christopher Stamper wrote:
   
 I noticed this posted on the list:

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, laurent.bellegarde
 laurent.bellega...@free.fr mailto:laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote:

 in a terminal, launch qjackctl with a sudo qjackctl to be root, the RT
 kernel is fine until 2,9 ms with the both sound card !!! What a big
 suprise !!!


  Are you supposed to launch qjackctl as root?

 
 No, that is what the audio group and /etc/security/limits.conf are for.
I'm agree with this, launching an apps or a daemon in root excepted for 
administration is not normal. Usuals programs should be launched as 
simple user.

Laurent

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