Re: Re: Laptop and sound card for ubuntu studio

2009-09-02 Thread aj
Thanks All! This thread has just the kind of info I need and will help me make a short list.I plan to use Pure Data to do effects on my guitar (in particular a kind of live granulation patch I'm quite pleased with) which is why low latency would be good. At some stage I'll be recording that using about 4 tracks simultaneously so the lappy will need some power (plus in Windows I need to do some heavy lifting for work). I've got a Zalman laptop cooler which I'd recommend if anyone has overheating problems. Keeps it quieter as well. Cheers!
On Sep 1, 2009, Kiernan Holland roftho...@gmail.com wrote:

My Dell Dimension 9150 has APIC, but only 23 interrupts.. I suppose with the 750i there will be more since it is quality hardware, but someone I talked to was unsure whether it would have good linux support. Anyhow.. It seems to be that the best choice is not to get the Core 2 Duo's but the i7, as it supports hyper-threading, evidently according to the wikipedia article on the i7, the Core Duo doesn't support hyper-threading.. Maybe that's just the core duo and not the core 2 duo, nope the core 2 duo doesn't, says it is a descendent of the Pentium 3 architecture. The Pentium Extreme is the one I'm building, is overclockable to 4.2 Ghz. Also said the Pentium Extreme has 31 stages in it's execution pipeline, but that the branch prediction penalty is greater with this many stages, but that the internal ALU's run twice as fast as the clock cycle to make up for it. All I know, from my discussions with my brother who's done work in things like fault tollerant systems, you need a high degree of branch prediction for linux because of the greater amount of indirection. I also read that part of the problem with the netburst is that it makes other operations go slower, and references to bit-shifting operations were given. If it has hardwired floating and integer operations, I don't know how much better it would be to have bit shifting operations since they are only going to improve multiplications and divisions by multiples of 2. I think a shared cache would be better than a divided cache, but it's a cheap chip, cost me 99 dollars at tiger direct. A Core 2 Duo would probably run me more and i7's that compare to the Pentium Extreme in having hyper threading, go from 200 to 1000 dollars. I'd rather get the best of the last line, than wait for the best of the next.  On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Kiernan Holland roftho...@gmail.com wrote:




 I would not compare this interrupts file with a more modern machine. A lot has changed in the years since the P4, and for the better. Netburst is dead, hurray. The PIC has been replaced by the APIC. If you care look them up in wikipedia, the point is that a modern machine will not look like the above, and this is not only to be expected, but is a good thing. 




 

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Usb Fast Track Maudio

2009-09-02 Thread teza
Hi everyone,I've just a M audio fast Track usb soud card which is well
detected by the system but but no sound is coming out my speakers. Maybe
users of this card cann to me how they set it up.
Thanks for your help.
Teza




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Re: Stability problems with 9.04 64bit quad core

2009-09-02 Thread Kiernan Holland
Did you get the 64-bit kernel? Cause I'm not sure the 32-bit kernel can
address more than 4 gigs.


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Tommy yeah allornothin.to...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 I've been trying to run Ardour 2.7.1 with jackd 0.116.1 with a Mackie Onyx
 1640 with the firewire expansion. I have a Dell Studio desktop, Core 2 quad
 2.33, 6gigs DDR2. I was running the same setup on 8.10 with only minor
 problems. I get xruns, jackd crashes, ardour crashes with the vanila kernel,
 and most recently my entire computer becomes unresponsive with the real time
 kernel. Also system monitor says I only have 3.1Gib of ram and 3.1Gib of
 swap.


Also your swap needs to be at least 1.5 times your real memory. So you have
6 gigs of ram, you need a swap of 9 or 10 gigs. It probably scaled your
memory down because you didn't allocate enough swap, the swap is part of the
virtual memory, and the more swap you have, the more virtual memory you will
have. Like if you have 10 gigs, you will have 6 gigs real, and 4 gigs
virtual. That's what permits you to work on large images in GIMP and juggle
bunches of programs. It's not so good for audio applications though. You
probably can turn it off.

There is also a way to make it so that swapping of pages out to the storage,
happenbs less frequently. But I forget where that information is in the
configuration files.
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Re: Stability problems with 9.04 64bit quad core

2009-09-02 Thread Kiernan Holland
Also I heard 8.10 is the version of Ubuntu that had the multi-core realtime
kernel issues.. I've heard the best are 8.04 or 9.04.. Skip 8.10.. 8.04 for
Ubuntu Studio is said to be more stable, but it works fine in 9.04 .. You
might want to check your /proc/interrupts to see if you have multiple
things sharing the same interrupt, like if your hard drive is sharing an
interrupt with your sound card, that's probably what is causing a conflict,
the swap is inadequate and so the hard drive is busy swapping memory and
jack is unable to manage the sound card.  I'm just guessing..



instability problems? Do I need to go back to 8.10? I  haven't been able to
 duplicate the crashes as they seem unpredictable. I can sometimes get it to
 crash by scrolling/resizing. Maybe its the video chipset, I have the intel
 GMA 4500HD chipset.


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Re: Stability problems with 9.04 64bit quad core

2009-09-02 Thread Kiernan Holland
If it is an interrupt problem, you'll have to move your sound card to
another slot.. Or if the sound is on your motherboard, buy another card and
use that instead of the motherboard. Also I think the 64-bit kernel is the
other problem. I think I read somewhere that Linux doesn't permit you to use
the full 4 gigs of ram, that you get something less than 4 gigs cause the
rest of the address space is used for addressing devices.
I had to disable my onboard sound card and put a soundblaster card where my
firewire card was cause the firewire card had it's own interrupt, and my
NVidia card was sharing an interrupt with my motherboard's sound.
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Re: Stability problems with 9.04 64bit quad core

2009-09-02 Thread Kiernan Holland
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Kiernan Holland roftho...@gmail.com wrote:



 If it is an interrupt problem, you'll have to move your sound card to
 another slot.. Or if the sound is on your motherboard, buy another card and
 use that instead of the motherboard. Also I think the 64-bit kernel is the
 other problem. I think I read


I mean to say that the 64-bit kernel is the solution to your memory
addressing. If your swap is adequate for the amount of real memory you have,
then it's likely the kernel is not a 64-bit kernel, and that's why it's not
addressing enough of the memory. And the size of the memory could be less
than 4 gigs due to some sort of addressing needs outside of memory
addressibility. If it is that your swap is 3.1 gigs, then that's the
problem. But make sure you have the 64-bit kernel and enough swap.
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Re: Usb Fast Track Maudio

2009-09-02 Thread teza
Hi, thanks for your help, but doen't help much. I don't understand why
it do not work because it's there.


t...@ubuntustudio:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Track  ]: USB-Audio - Fast Track
  M-Audio Fast Track at usb-:00:02.0-6, full
speed
 1 [AudioPCI   ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
  Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xe880, irq 11
t...@ubuntustudio:~$ 


..
Le mercredi 02 septembre 2009 à 11:46 +0300, Asmo Koskinen a écrit :
 teza kirjoitti:
 
  Hi everyone,I've just a M audio fast Track usb soud card which is well
  detected by the system but but no sound is coming out my speakers. Maybe
  users of this card cann to me how they set it up.
 
 I'm not Fast Track user, but this page tells not so good news...
 
 Buoyed by our success with the KeyStudio, we set up Fast Track USB, but 
 this time we didn't get far.
 [--]
 There is an open source driver for M-Audio USB interfaces, but 
 unsurprisingly it hasn't been updated for the recently released Fast 
 Track yet. Until it is, it doesn't look like we'll be using Fast Track 
 on Linux.
 
 http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/126408
 http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/
 
 Maybe there is some progress with that device, I really do not know.
 
 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.
 




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Re: Stability problems with 9.04 64bit quad core

2009-09-02 Thread Tommy yeah
Yes, I am running the 32bit flavour, I'm downloading 64bit right now. Does
anyone have any experience setting up the Mackie onyx?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Gustin Johnson gus...@echostar.ca wrote:

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  If it is an interrupt problem, you'll have to move your sound card to
  another slot.. Or if the sound is on your motherboard, buy another card
  and use that instead of the motherboard. Also I think the 64-bit kernel
  is the other problem. I think I read somewhere that Linux doesn't permit
  you to use the full 4 gigs of ram, that you get something less than 4

 All 32 bit OSs have this limitation.  Specifically the total addressable
 about of memory is 4 GiB, but this includes memory that may be on your
 GPU (which on some machines gets counted twice), as well as CPU cache.
 There are ways around this, but the best method is to simply use the 64
 bit variant.

 I can also say that the RT kernel in 9.04 works just fine with my dual
 core machine.


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Re: Usb Fast Track Maudio

2009-09-02 Thread Asmo Koskinen
V Gabriele De Palo kirjoitti:

 I have a fasttrack ULTRA 
 http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackUltra.html,
 but, still does not work in GNU/Linux,
  I tried everything, it's depends on the  M-Audio DFU runtime or 
 something like this.
 I continue to try, but the card still does not work via USB in Linux.
 any help is much appreciated

Maybe this is true?

It is a USB 1, that's why it does work out of the box, the newer Fast 
Track Pro Ultra is a USB 2 and does not work under linux AFAIK.

https://ardour.org/node/2868

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

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Re: Usb Fast Track Maudio

2009-09-02 Thread nathalie
Hello,
If your system see it,  it should work !
I am pretty sure you have checked but anyway:
I also use the M- audio Fast Track usb  with Ubuntu and the Gnome 
desktop ( not ubuntu studio but i am sure it makes no difference).
So did you change  the sound properties and select the  usb device for 
playing  and recording sounds ?
It works perfect on my computer. I use this card for quite a long time 
because the computer native sound card is awfull when i want to play 
music...

Cheers
nat

ps: sorry for my english, but I am speaking french.


teza a écrit :
 Hi, thanks for your help, but doen't help much. I don't understand why
 it do not work because it's there.


 t...@ubuntustudio:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [Track  ]: USB-Audio - Fast Track
   M-Audio Fast Track at usb-:00:02.0-6, full
 speed
  1 [AudioPCI   ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
   Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xe880, irq 11
 t...@ubuntustudio:~$ 


 ..
 Le mercredi 02 septembre 2009 à 11:46 +0300, Asmo Koskinen a écrit :
   
 teza kirjoitti:

 
 Hi everyone,I've just a M audio fast Track usb soud card which is well
 detected by the system but but no sound is coming out my speakers. Maybe
 users of this card cann to me how they set it up.
   
 I'm not Fast Track user, but this page tells not so good news...

 Buoyed by our success with the KeyStudio, we set up Fast Track USB, but 
 this time we didn't get far.
 [--]
 There is an open source driver for M-Audio USB interfaces, but 
 unsurprisingly it hasn't been updated for the recently released Fast 
 Track yet. Until it is, it doesn't look like we'll be using Fast Track 
 on Linux.

 http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/126408
 http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/

 Maybe there is some progress with that device, I really do not know.

 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

 




   

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