Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:18 +0200, Gerhard Lang wrote:
> > Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > > Hi :)
> > >
> > > today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
> > > realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > > After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
> > > grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
> > > grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
> > > I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
> > > Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
> > > rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > 2.
> > >
> > > I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
> > > output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
> > > cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.
> > >
> > > 3.
> > >
> > > I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
> > > KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.
> > >
> > > Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Ralf
> > >
> > >
> > hi Ralf
> > I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
> > partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
> > /etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
> > grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
> > etc..
> > I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
> > 10.04 64bit.
> > But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
> > 2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
> > With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
> > and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
> > Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
> > do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
> > Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
> > good luck
> > Gerhard
> > 
> 
> Yes, I'm able to select them by Qjackctl too. I didn't make both cards a
> single virtual card until now.
> I can't boot any kernel-rt. There at least is an issue for X. I'm unable
> to start GDM. There's no sound for the preempt kernels.
> 
> Because there isn't a xorg.conf anymore I'm unable to switch between
> drivers for the graphics ... right now I see there's a
> xorg.conf.failsafe using the vesa driver.
> 
> Hm, ASAP, not right now, I'll try to boot a kernel-rt in failsafe mode.
> 
> - Ralf

Booting a kernel-rt in recovery mode failed too.

spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~>
cat /media/ubuntu_studio/var/log/Xorg.failsafe.log
[snip]
(II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 4096 64KB banks (262144kB)
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "2048x1536" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "800x600" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x480" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x400" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x400" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x240" (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x200" (no mode of this name)
(WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter...
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "2048x1536" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "800x600" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x480" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x400" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x400" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x240" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "320x200" (unknown reason)
(WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying aggressive sync range...
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "2048x1536" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768

Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:18 +0200, Gerhard Lang wrote:
> Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > Hi :)
> >
> > today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
> > realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
> > grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
> > grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
> > I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
> > Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
> > rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
> > myself.
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
> > output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
> > cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.
> >
> > 3.
> >
> > I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
> > KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.
> >
> > Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >
> hi Ralf
> I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
> partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
> /etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
> grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
> etc..
> I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
> 10.04 64bit.
> But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
> 2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
> With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
> and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
> Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
> do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
> Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
> good luck
> Gerhard
> 

Yes, I'm able to select them by Qjackctl too. I didn't make both cards a
single virtual card until now.
I can't boot any kernel-rt. There at least is an issue for X. I'm unable
to start GDM. There's no sound for the preempt kernels.

Because there isn't a xorg.conf anymore I'm unable to switch between
drivers for the graphics ... right now I see there's a
xorg.conf.failsafe using the vesa driver.

Hm, ASAP, not right now, I'll try to boot a kernel-rt in failsafe mode.

- Ralf


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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Gerhard Lang
Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> Hi :)
>
> today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
> realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
>
> 1.
>
> After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
> grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
> grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
> I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
> Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
> rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
> myself.
>
> 2.
>
> I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
> output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
> cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.
>
> 3.
>
> I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
> KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.
>
> Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ralf
>
>
hi Ralf
I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
/etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
etc..
I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
10.04 64bit.
But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
good luck
Gerhard

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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 20:34 +0100, Matt Wheeler wrote:
> Sorry, I can't answer either of the questions you said you actually
> wanted help with but...
> 
> On 28 July 2010 17:22, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> > Hi :)
> >
> > today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
> > realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
> > grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
> > grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
> > I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
> > Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
> > rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
> > myself.
> 
> Rather than editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly you need to edit or
> replace the files in /etc/grub.d and then call update-grub.
> The scripts in /etc/grub.d are executed in order, hence the filenames
> beginning with numbers, so if you want to add custom entries at the
> top call your file 08_localstuff or something. I've blogged about this
> in relation to realtime kernels [1]. Perhaps you can modify that to
> suit your needs.
> 
> 
> If you just want to include some static text in grub.cfg you could
> create a file like this (and make it executable):
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> echo << EOF
> 
> your stuff for grub.cfg goes here
> 
> EOF
> 
> 
> Hope this is at least a little helpful ⢁)
> 
> 
> [1] http://funkyhat.org/2010/01/19/putting-rt-kernels-first-in-grub2/
> 
> -- 
> Matt Wheeler
> m...@funkyhat.org
> 

Thank you Matt :)

1.

My fault not to backup grub.cfg or to switch to GRUB 1, resp. not to use
GRUB 1 of my older Linux installs.

2.

For the future I could backup grub.cfg or I should (have) read about
GRUB 2 myself.

So, okay, GRUB isn't that important, OTOH thank you for making it easier
for me to keep the new GRUB.

Anyway, I still wounder why GRUB does search for outdated GRUB 1
menu.lst's ;).

Not the hint I was asking for, but OTOH a really good hint, because the
new GRUB for sure will remove the old faithful GRUB.

Thanx :)

Ralf


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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Matt Wheeler
Sorry, I can't answer either of the questions you said you actually
wanted help with but...

On 28 July 2010 17:22, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
> realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
>
> 1.
>
> After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
> grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
> grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
> I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
> Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
> rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
> myself.

Rather than editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly you need to edit or
replace the files in /etc/grub.d and then call update-grub.
The scripts in /etc/grub.d are executed in order, hence the filenames
beginning with numbers, so if you want to add custom entries at the
top call your file 08_localstuff or something. I've blogged about this
in relation to realtime kernels [1]. Perhaps you can modify that to
suit your needs.


If you just want to include some static text in grub.cfg you could
create a file like this (and make it executable):

#!/bin/sh

echo << EOF

your stuff for grub.cfg goes here

EOF


Hope this is at least a little helpful ⢁)


[1] http://funkyhat.org/2010/01/19/putting-rt-kernels-first-in-grub2/

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No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.

1.

After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
myself.

2.

I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.

3.

I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.

Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.

Cheers!

Ralf


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